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Tony Bennett retiring

How? He quit 20 days before the season starts. That is quitting on your team.

It's also conveniently timed so that the university has no choice but to name an interim coach from his staff.
Yes, Sanchez is the interim and may have a leg up on being selected as the next HC. However, Carla Williams, the Athletic Director, stated flat-out that there will be a national search for the new HC at the end of the season.
 
Tell that to the NBA. "One and one" isn't a creation of the NCAA; it's part of the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the NBA owners and Players' Association. You can call it the "Help keep us from drafting another Kwame Brown" rule.

The central problem with all of this is that there is no viable minor league system in basketball and football like there is in baseball. It would be great if the NBA adopted the same rule as baseball does IRT to the amateur draft, there's a "look" coming out of HS (age 18), but if you go to college, you can't be redrafted until you turn 21 (3 years). If the NBA owners and PA made it part of the CBA, there shouldn't be any legal problems.
Give it a like but don't see the interest by the NBA. They can develop other evaluation methods and prep schools get the marketing started...see Cooper Flagg. Think the NBA owners don't see it as their job to save college basketball from itself. Think they are also tiring of bailing out WNBA which per NY Post article is on track to lose 40 million this year.
 
Give it a like but don't see the interest by the NBA. They can develop other evaluation methods and prep schools get the marketing started...see Cooper Flagg. Think the NBA owners don't see it as their job to save college basketball from itself. Think they are also tiring of bailing out WNBA which per NY Post article is on track to lose 40 million this year.
There was some rumbling on the part of the owners during the last CBA negotiation about getting rid of "one and done," but nothing came of it.
 
Tell that to the NBA. "One and one" isn't a creation of the NCAA; it's part of the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the NBA owners and Players' Association. You can call it the "Help keep us from drafting another Kwame Brown" rule.

The central problem with all of this is that there is no viable minor league system in basketball and football like there is in baseball. It would be great if the NBA adopted the same rule as baseball does IRT to the amateur draft, there's a "look" coming out of HS (age 18), but if you go to college, you can't be redrafted until you turn 21 (3 years). If the NBA owners and PA made it part of the CBA, there shouldn't be any legal problems.

It's not the minor league thing, it's so veterans can keep their job. The NBA hasn't been bad at picking HS kids. I'm not sure why this is perpetuated.

41 HS guys have been drafted. Three are in the HoF and another 3 are going to get into the HoF. Another 4, on top of that, made at least an all star game. Some of the guys outside of those ten are CJ Miles, Monta Ellis, Darryl Dawkins, Al Harrington, Shaun Livingston, Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, JR Smith, Lou Will, Amir Johnson.

Against where they were picked, the picks have a very good hit rate. 11 of the 41 were second round picks.

Kwame Brown was picked by Michael Jordan, one of the worst personnel people in the history of the NBA. If Kwame went third or fourth, his career would be fine. He played 12 years and made over $60M.
 
Yes, Sanchez is the interim and may have a leg up on being selected as the next HC. However, Carla Williams, the Athletic Director, stated flat-out that there will be a national search for the new HC at the end of the season.

National search? What's that? Never heard of it... /s

Hope you all find a great next coach Hoo's That, Bennett was one of the good ones.
 
There's something very wrong with a system that essentially forces out the two best coaches of the past 20 years in Jay Wright and Tony Bennett.

BUT...Tony Bennett put the current UVA team together. He's a major reason some or all decided to go there. He owes it to them to "force himself" to complete this season.

He could have announced his retirement after the season and given the school a year to make its search for a replacement.

Bottom line: he may be right to get out. But he's wrong to do it 20 days before the start of the new season.
 
There's something very wrong with a system that essentially forces out the two best coaches of the past 20 years in Jay Wright and Tony Bennett.

BUT...Tony Bennett put the current UVA team together. He's a major reason some or all decided to go there. He owes it to them to "force himself" to complete this season.

He could have announced his retirement after the season and given the school a year to make its search for a replacement.

Bottom line: he may be right to get out. But he's wrong to do it 20 days before the start of the new season.
We’re seeing kids who have played during the season bail for the transfer portal and even during the season to preserve their eligibility for an additional year at another school. Are they quitting on their team, their coach? I don’t see any outrage about it. Plenty of coaches have been fired a month before the season begins more than ever and even during the season too. Outraged? I’m hearing that NIL donors at some colleges are putting lots of additional pressure on coaches, administrators regarding player development, playing time etc for players they have paid NIL for and that some donors aren’t cheering for the team but just the specific player they are financially tied to. It’s a different sports world out there and it is different for not just players but coaches, college athletic administrators and fans. No wonder people are re-evaluating their ever changing roles in it.
 
Give it a like but don't see the interest by the NBA. They can develop other evaluation methods and prep schools get the marketing started...see Cooper Flagg. Think the NBA owners don't see it as their job to save college basketball from itself. Think they are also tiring of bailing out WNBA which per NY Post article is on track to lose 40 million this year.
Their G League certainly isn’t a hit either nor a money maker.
 
I agree but that is their responsibility. WNBA and college basketball are not.
Why do you think that the NBA would believe that college basketball is their responsibility? College basketball shouldn’t be considered a developmental league for the NBA either but it is. The NBA cares only enough about college basketball to put age restrictions on it so players have few realistic options but to attend college for at least a year while also giving them advice on what they need to work on during college, their possibilities for being drafted etc. They care but bear no real responsibility for them. Saves the NBA millions upon millions of $.

By the way, the NBA sold the WNBA in 2002. The NBA still has about 50% of equity but individual NBA franchise owners and then private owners actually bought the franchises from 2002. Two teams folded because they couldn’t find owners and another 2 teams moved to get new owners in 2002. The Indiana Pacers own the Indiana Fever, Minnesota Lynx are owned by the Timberwolves, NY Liberty owned by the Nets, Phoenix Suns are owned by the Suns, Washington Mystics are owned by the Wizards and Golden State will own a new WNBA franchise in 2025. The remaining 7 teams are privately owned including Magic Johnson being part owner of the LA Sparkes and the Las Vegas Aces are owned by the MGM resorts etc. They make sure they subsidize the WNBA just enough to maintain control of it and their finances, decisions etc.
 
Well, better players likely means more wins, which means better attendance and more TV appearances. So they’re certainly creating value for the school.

But, of course, the school itself isn’t paying them. Which makes the model all sorts of bizarre.

Now, whether or not the college-as-minor-league model for football and hoops is a crazy anachronism, that’s another issue altogether.
I'm all for players making money but this current system is so screwed up I wonder if it reaches a point where non alumni / non gamblers stop watching

  • Sheldon 'Shelly' Marcone: Football is a dyin' beast, Joe. No heroes left. Not anymore. Since ol' Sonny Werblin paid four hundred thousand dollars to Joe Namath in '66, the son of a bitches have just gotten greedier. God Almighty, when's it enough? Jesus, free agents. "Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme." Now you got guys on PCP wiggin' out and shootin' themselves on the field. The American public is piss-pot tired of it, and they're changing the channel.
 
Why do you think that the NBA would believe that college basketball is their responsibility? College basketball shouldn’t be considered a developmental league for the NBA either but it is. The NBA cares only enough about college basketball to put age restrictions on it so players have few realistic options but to attend college for at least a year while also giving them advice on what they need to work on during college, their possibilities for being drafted etc. They care but bear no real responsibility for them. Saves the NBA millions upon millions of $.

By the way, the NBA sold the WNBA in 2002. The NBA still has about 50% of equity but individual NBA franchise owners and then private owners actually bought the franchises from 2002. Two teams folded because they couldn’t find owners and another 2 teams moved to get new owners in 2002. The Indiana Pacers own the Indiana Fever, Minnesota Lynx are owned by the Timberwolves, NY Liberty owned by the Nets, Phoenix Suns are owned by the Suns, Washington Mystics are owned by the Wizards and Golden State will own a new WNBA franchise in 2025. The remaining 7 teams are privately owned including Magic Johnson being part owner of the LA Sparkes and the Las Vegas Aces are owned by the MGM resorts etc. They make sure they subsidize the WNBA just enough to maintain control of it and their finances, decisions etc.
The NBA doesn't and I never said they did. Some fans on this board do.
 
Bottom line: he may be right to get out. But he's wrong to do it 20 days before the start of the new season.

I'm saying how I would feel.

He quit on his team. People can slice it anyway they'd like. He manipulated the system to ensure one of his guys got the job. The NIL landscape has not changed since April. They could have at least conducted a national search in the offseason (and still gone with Sanchez).

Certainly understand the point you make on the team staying intact, but idk. To me, if I'm a player, who committed to TB, I would feel like I just got left at the altar. No other choice but to play ball though
It's worth remembering that this is essentially the same thing that Bo Ryan did at Wisconsin and that Dean Smith did at UNC. Bill Guthidge and and Greg Gard did, or have done, pretty well and the programs didn't suffer. Given the state of college basketball and the transfer portal, if Coach Bennett left in the spring of 2024, or waited until the spring of 2025, it is likely that chaos ensues. It may anyway, but this way at least gives the program a chance to maintain some stability and continuity during the transition. In the long run, I think that that is in the best interests of the players.
 
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It's worth remembering that this is essentially the same thing that Bo Ryan did at Wisconsin and that Dean Smith did at UNC. Bill Guthidge and and Greg Gard did, or have done, pretty well and the programs didn't suffer. Given the state of college basketball and the transfer portal, if Coach Bennett left in the spring of 2024, or waited until the spring of 2025, it is likely that chaos ensues. It may anyway, but this way at least gives the program a chance to maintain some stability and continuity during the transition. In the long run, I think that that is in the best interests of the players.
They system is proven. And, it doesn't require top 20 players. If a Bennett disciple can teach as well as Tony, they can continue to be successful.
 
There's something very wrong with a system that essentially forces out the two best coaches of the past 20 years in Jay Wright and Tony Bennett.

BUT...Tony Bennett put the current UVA team together. He's a major reason some or all decided to go there. He owes it to them to "force himself" to complete this season.

He could have announced his retirement after the season and given the school a year to make its search for a replacement.

Bottom line: he may be right to get out. But he's wrong to do it 20 days before the start of the new season.

Announcing your retirement ahead of time pretty much kills recruiting, and in the current environment where transferring is so easy isn’t really viable. As bizarre as it may seem, the way he handled it may be the best approach for coaches to maintain continuity and minimize negative impact on the program.
 

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