What day will Autry be fired?

[cuseinseattle]

Mike Waters is great. We are lucky to have him. Everyone knows Red is gone. There is no benefit to Waters saying anything about it other than what he did.

 

[blust2i3d4]

When the season over. Also it depends if Syracuse accepts NIT bid.

 

[ar inj]

When the season over. Also it depends if Syracuse accepts NIT bid.

Hofstra is projected as a seeded NIT participant. SU is still projected as a possible NIT participant but I doubt that will last given the likely outcome of the remaining games and I imagine/hope SU would decline an invite. Then again maybe I missed your sarcasm font.

 

[hoopsupstate]

When the season over. Also it depends if Syracuse accepts NIT bid.

I hope the NIT isn’t considered meaningful games in March

 

[CuseFan]

I would expect SU to accept an NIT invitation. Why would we not? At least let the players play in one more event before it is all blown up.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I would expect SU to accept an NIT invitation. Why would we not? At least let the players play in one more event before it is all blown up.

Because half the team doesn’t even want to play out the regular season.

 

[RF2044]

He should resign, to avoid having the University fire him.

Win-win.

 

[CuseFan]

Because half the team doesn’t even want to play out the regular season.

That is damning in itself. sigh...

 

[CuseFaninVT]

He should resign, to avoid having the University fire him.

Win-win.

This is true even if they get an NIT invite. There’s zero reason for him to be part of the team moving forward. Happens all the time with college football.

 

[Bill Orange]

I would expect SU to accept an NIT invitation. Why would we not? At least let the players play in one more event before it is all blown up.

Not a chance, especially if they expect us to host a game at the Dome.

Ticket sales would be abysmal and SU would lose money by opening the doors.

 

[sufan59]

Because half the team doesn’t even want to play out the regular season.

We didn't play in the NIT in Red's first season with a roster full of freshmen and sophomores. Ironically, his most together team and the team with the best culture was last year's team. They just weren't good and it took them way too long to start playing decent basketball. When they decided to slow the game down they became a better team. If they played the way they did in February from November-January they could've made the NIT and I think they would've accepted the bid.

 

[007]

He should resign, to avoid having the University fire him.

Win-win.

I think it's a safe bet he already knows his fate.

In a recent interview Red talked about how being the HC at SU "was an honor of a lifetime." I feel for the guy. He gave everything he had and it didn't work out. I suspect and hope that Red will coach to the end of the very last game with his head held up and let the chips inevitably fall. The university will thank him for his service and dedication followed by an announcement that a national search is under way.

 

[elimunelson]

Not a chance, especially if they expect us to host a game at the Dome.

Ticket sales would be abysmal and SU would lose money by opening the doors.

If they fire red before it and new coach comes on board (Hopkins) maybe worth seeing the test drive no?

 

[hoopsupstate]

I think it's a safe bet he already knows his fate.

In a recent interview Red talked about how being the HC at SU "was an honor of a lifetime." I feel for the guy. He gave everything he had and it didn't work out. I suspect and hope that Red will coach to the end of the very last game with his head held up and let the chips inevitably fall. The university will thank him for his service and dedication followed by an announcement that a national search is under way.

Or they just announce they’re hiring Buddy from CBA

 

[007]

If they fire red before it and new coach comes on board (Hopkins) maybe worth seeing the test drive no?

There isn't a universe anywhere where this would make sense.

 

[RF2044]

I think it's a safe bet he already knows his fate.

In a recent interview Red talked about how being the HC at SU "was an honor of a lifetime." I feel for the guy. He gave everything he had and it didn't work out. I suspect and hope that Red will coach to the end of the very last game with his head held up and let the chips inevitably fall. The university will thank him for his service and dedication followed by an announcement that a national search is under way.

I'm not "mad" at Red. Loved him as a player, appreciate all of his contributions to the program as a coach.

He was put in a tough position, and granted a role he showed little-to-no apptitude for prior to being handed the head coaching job.

Him getting the position in the first place was misguided, given his lackluster credentials and the fact that our basketball program had slipped several notches. We needed a proven commodity, not someone who [best case scenario] would require on-the-job training.

There was nothing in his background or the team's performance to indicate that he had a master of X's and O's, that he was coveted by other teams, or that he excelled at teaching the game. Quite the contrary, in fact -- given the product we were seeing on the court. These should have been red flags, given that Red was one of the architects of the program's slippage over Boeheim's final years.

But alas, all of that was ignored due to overreach from certain BoT members and donors, who valued relational considerations over what was best for the program, and steered the search to an unqualified candidate.

Hopefully, he can step away and have the negative sentiment die down, and that eventually the fanbase will come to view him favorably again.

But this was destined to fail from the beginning. It's really too bad.

 

[sufan59]

I think it's a safe bet he already knows his fate.

In a recent interview Red talked about how being the HC at SU "was an honor of a lifetime." I feel for the guy. He gave everything he had and it didn't work out. I suspect and hope that Red will coach to the end of the very last game with his head held up and let the chips inevitably fall. The university will thank him for his service and dedication followed by an announcement that a national search is under way.

Obviously the ACCT leaves room for some weirdness (I truly think he would need to win the ACCT and go on and win a Natty for Syracuse to change it's mind on the obvious, we have two other recent examples where an unexpected run didn't signal a change in program trajectory), but I hope at the last home game for Red, there was a way for fans to pay the appreciation for his service. Some signs and a standing ovation for him win or lose at the end of the game. For where the program was when he got the job to now, I truly believe he made Syracuse better off the court and will set up the next coach (Hodgson hopefully) for better success because of it. For Red, I'm rooting for him whether that is going to a lower level and somehow working his way back up (it would be a cool story, as long as Syracuse is also succeeding) or being a high major assistant again. Truly a great guy and I hope we get to a point where he can be a basketball alumni that will be welcomed with open arms in the dome again.

 

[23Zone]

Because half the team doesn’t even want to play out the regular season.

Agree it seems like that would be beating a dead horse

 

[007]

Obviously the ACCT leaves room for some weirdness (I truly think he would need to win the ACCT and go on and win a Natty for Syracuse to change it's mind on the obvious, we have two other recent examples where an unexpected run didn't signal a change in program trajectory), but I hope at the last home game for Red, there was a way for fans to pay the appreciation for his service. Some signs and a standing ovation for him win or lose at the end of the game. For where the program was when he got the job to now, I truly believe he made Syracuse better off the court and will set up the next coach (Hodgson hopefully) for better success because of it. For Red, I'm rooting for him whether that is going to a lower level and somehow working his way back up (it would be a cool story, as long as Syracuse is also succeeding) or being a high major assistant again. Truly a great guy and I hope we get to a point where he can be a basketball alumni that will be welcomed with open arms in the dome again.

Red will always be respected for his playing career and his years of dedication to SU basketball. No reason to worry about being welcomed in the Dome.

 

[007]

I'm not "mad" at Red. Loved him as a player, appreciate all of his contributions to the program as a coach.

He was put in a tough position, and granted a role he showed little-to-no apptitude for prior to being handed the head coaching job.

Him getting the position in the first place was misguided, given his lackluster credentials and the fact that our basketball program had slipped several notches. We needed a proven commodity, not someone who [best case scenario] would require on-the-job training.

There was nothing in his background or the team's performance to indicate that he had a master of X's and O's, that he was coveted by other teams, or that he excelled at teaching the game. Quite the contrary, in fact -- given the product we were seeing on the court. These should have been red flags, given that Red was one of the architects of the program's slippage over Boeheim's final years.

But alas, all of that was ignored due to overreach from certain BoT members and donors, who valued relational considerations over what was best for the program, and steered the search to an unqualified candidate.

Hopefully, he can step away and have the negative sentiment die down, and that eventually the fanbase will come to view him favorably again.

But this was destined to fail from the beginning. It's really too bad.

I hear you RF. I always keep in mind - Red didn’t hire himself

 

[orangepassion]

I would expect SU to accept an NIT invitation. Why would we not? At least let the players play in one more event before it is all blown up.

Do you really want to drag this out any longer? At this point in the year, the sooner we officially start the search, the better.

 

[5OutFred]

But alas, all of that was ignored due to overreach from certain BoT members and donors, who valued relational considerations over what was best for the program, and steered the search to an unqualified candidate.

This is scarily the exact sentiment currently being leveraged for Hop. We're going to get a clear-cut answer if this AD has learned anything.

 

[grepal]

Mike Waters is great. We are lucky to have him. Everyone knows Red is gone. There is no benefit to Waters saying anything about it other than what he did.

Day after the season is over if a new coach is lined up the day the season is over so AD can address the team

 

[Bulldog04]

He took down his big SU flag outside his house. Feel for him. Guy loves SU but that had to hurt because sometimes it’s the small things that make a big impact on ya

 

[sufan59]

He took down his big SU flag outside his house. Feel for him. Guy loves SU but that had to hurt because sometimes it’s the small things that make a big impact on ya

That's so sad...