Who’s it gonna be guys and gals?

[cusefan88]

TD but with packages for Shrader.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

DeVito is going to throw for 30 TDs and ride a bowl appearance on to the NFL draft.

Jorts will make appearances as a change of pace in most games and play well, setting up a smooth transition to 2021.

 

[syrBossHogg]

I believe TD will be the starting quarterback week 1. I do think Shrader will be the starting QB by the end of the year, whether it's from play or injury. My worry is still with TD being able to handle pressure and the ability of our offensive line to decrease the amount of plays TD (or someone else) is pressured.

Kinda crazy there were teams worse than us under pressure lol

 

[Orijinal]

DeVito is going to throw for 30 TDs and ride a bowl appearance on to the NFL draft.

Jorts will make appearances as a change of pace in most games and play well, setting up a smooth transition to 2021.

This post right here

 

[AngryOtto]

DeVito is going to throw for 30 TDs and ride a bowl appearance on to the NFL draft.

Jorts will make appearances as a change of pace in most games and play well, setting up a smooth transition to 2021.

Would be great to see but I would not put any money on this outcome.

 

[Cusefan78]

I’m not getting my hopes up. assuming td is our best option and will start. I tend to believe mike leach knows football better then any of us. After how bad Allen was when he came here I just assume we are getting peoples scraps. There is a reason the kid was moved to a different position by one of the best offensive minds in the game. Bottom line Dino needs to learn how to recruit qbs

 

[Cusefan78]

I agree that Tommy will likely start the season, but I disagree that everything about Schrader is about potential. Don't forget-He started as a True Freshman in the SEC and had some nice moments.

And then had a serious injury

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Would be great to see but I would not put any money on this outcome.

 

[money3189]

I’m not getting my hopes up. assuming td is our best option and will start. I tend to believe mike leach knows football better then any of us. After how bad Allen was when he came here I just assume we are getting peoples scraps. There is a reason the kid was moved to a different position by one of the best offensive minds in the game. Bottom line Dino needs to learn how to recruit qbs

Leach wanted a specific type of QB for his system. Thats why he brought in a transfer. Morehead’s system is similar to Dino's. Did Shrader freshman SEC film show you anything? Just watch it with your own eyes and tell me he can't play QB.

 

[PAcuse]

TD
It’s his job to lose game 1. I would imagine he will be pulled fairly quickly if things go south.

 

[baggerbob]

Tommy Devito will be much more of a factor than I think you guys are giving him credit for. Because of maturity and experience, he will show more pocket awareness and escapability than he has in the past. He'll start at least the first 3 games, and we'll see how it goes from there.

If he hasn't shown the ability to read a defense and react to it in 4 years, why would you think suddenly he will this year?

 

[JRHEETER]

TD starts at Ohio

Don’t see him remaining starter for the whole season, but I hope he does. Because if he does, we’re probably having a really good year

 

[SUskibum]

Tommy will start (and get drafted) but Shrader will play about as much as Tommy did the first half of 2018, or approximately 20% of the snaps based on situations, matchups and score. Shredder will do for Tommy what Tommy did for Eric in 2018, get him to go from good to great and step on the gas. As a reminder of what Tommy has done for us, see below 2018 and 2019 highlights. Also keep in mind Tommy has only played a handful of healthy games for us. Also see Jorts highlights at MISS St




Syracuse QB Tommy DeVito Highlight Reel - 2019 Season | Stadium



Most of Garrett Shrader's pass and run attempts at Mississippi State

 

[MSOrange]

TD but with packages for Shrader.

I agree with this. I am thinking similar to how Nassib was worked in for some series when Paulus was QB. However if things go south for Tommy, I fully expect there to be a quick change.

 

[AngryOtto]

If he hasn't shown the ability to read a defense and react to it in 4 years, why would you think suddenly he will this year?

This is spot on. I would like to see a metamorphosis for TD but do not see it happening.
If the line is greatly improved, the run can be established, TD gets the ball out a lot quicker, he can focus on multiple reads and not so worried about an int and will thread a needle or give wr an opportunity to make plays there is a good chance he will have a really good season.
This is a lot that needs to happen. It’s like another poster suggested everything needs to go right.
The problem last year is that we were easy to defend. Teams only needed to rush three or four, lbs and safeties dropped into short and intermediate coverage and there was very little time for the deep ball. It was hit a couple of times.
The benefit of a DT is if defense tries same D qb will make them play with their legs. Even with an improved line su is not the type of team that can constantly look for the deep ball. We need to use short and intermediate routes and it seems that will only work with a DT qb.

 

[AngryOtto]

Leach wanted a specific type of QB for his system. Thats why he brought in a transfer. Morehead’s system is similar to Dino's. Did Shrader freshman SEC film show you anything? Just watch it with your own eyes and tell me he can't play QB.

Spot on.

 

[rrlbees]

Tommy will start (and get drafted) but Shrader will play about as much as Tommy did the first half of 2018, or approximately 20% of the snaps based on situations, matchups and score. Shredder will do for Tommy what Tommy did for Eric in 2018, get him to go from good to great and step on the gas. As a reminder of what Tommy has done for us, see below 2018 and 2019 highlights. Also keep in mind Tommy has only played a handful of healthy games for us. Also see Jorts highlights at MISS St




Syracuse QB Tommy DeVito Highlight Reel - 2019 Season | Stadium



Most of Garrett Shrader's pass and run attempts at Mississippi State

Tommy is the better passer. Shrader the better runner. If we get the running game we think we will and the OL has improved some, Tommy will likely be #1.

 

[All4SU]

I don’t see how one can be expected to “read defenses” when two DLs are on you within a second of the snap. If I was “reading that”
It would say, “Oh S#!+!”

 

[MikeSU02]

I'll say GS off the bat. You don't bring him in unless you have serious concerns about TD and Dino knows he's on the clock. Ohio will be a tricky opponent as well. I don't think we're in a position where we can concede a drive or two before brining in the new guy.

Total guess. Just want to win. If TD comes through, great. If it's GS, great. Just put wins on the board.

Personally, I prefer a dual threat QB rather than a pocket passer, but what do I know.

 

[007]

I don’t see how one can be expected to “read defenses” when two DLs are on you within a second of the snap. If I was “reading that”
It would say, “Oh S#!+!”

I don't have a dog in this debate yet, but there are some reads that happen pre-snap and then again immediately at the snap (finding the hot receiver if the D is blitzing for example).

 

[721Comstock]

I'll say GS off the bat. You don't bring him in unless you have serious concerns about TD and Dino knows he's on the clock. Ohio will be a tricky opponent as well. I don't think we're in a position where we can concede a drive or two before brining in the new guy.

Total guess. Just want to win. If TD comes through, great. If it's GS, great. Just put wins on the board.

Personally, I prefer a dual threat QB rather than a pocket passer, but what do I know.

Just remember - Fat Pirate put up video game numbers in Dino’s offense.

And spare change moves around more in the pocket than Fat Pirate.

(I stole that line from an ancient comment about Vinnie Testaverde - this was a good place to recycle it).

IF the OLine isn’t giving up jailbreaks every other snap, Tommy can light it up.
BIG “IF”.

 

[All4SU]

I'll say GS off the bat. You don't bring him in unless you have serious concerns about TD and Dino knows he's on the clock. Ohio will be a tricky opponent as well. I don't think we're in a position where we can concede a drive or two before brining in the new guy.

Total guess. Just want to win. If TD comes through, great. If it's GS, great. Just put wins on the board.

Personally, I prefer a dual threat QB rather than a pocket passer, but what do I know.

I like watching dual QBs better too. It’s more what college football is all about. I also think that if TD gets the time necessary from the OL, and a couple of WRs who can get open, he can be that type of QB that we have hated over the years - the guy that will just pick you apart. I don’t think we have seen what he can do.

 

[Bulldog04]

The offense shouldn’t be that hard to learn. I HATE when THATS Dino’s reason for not playing someone. What offense? Put Schrader in and let him make stuff happen

 

[MikeSU02]

Just remember - Fat Pirate put up video game numbers in Dino’s offense.

And spare change moves around more in the pocket than Fat Pirate.

(I stole that line from an ancient comment about Vinnie Testaverde - this was a good place to recycle it).

IF the OLine isn’t giving up jailbreaks every other snap, Tommy can light it up.
BIG “IF”.

I get the OL issues, but we've never had monster OLs. We probably never will. At some point if you need X, Y, and Z for your QB to be good, then you don't have the right QB.

Issues with TD were known coming in and they seem to have come true, relatively, when the lights came on. I know the kid can spin it, but if he needs conditions to be optimal for him to succeed, imo, we need to move on.

Again, jmho. If TD proves me wrong, I will be incredibly happy. I just don't see the it from him.

Here's the other thing, at best our OL will be acceptable. We aren't jumping from bad to spectacular. We need a QB that can succeed in the face of chaos. If TD can get there, super. The question was who I think the coaches are going to choose. I think when the rubber has to meet the road, and they know their jobs are on the line, do they bank on TD or do they bank on GS? I'm betting on GS starting because of the limited window Dino has to come out of the gates with wins. He has to put up Ws out of the gate.

 

[MikeSU02]

I like watching dual QBs better too. It’s more what college football is all about. I also think that if TD gets the time necessary from the OL, and a couple of WRs who can get open, he can be that type of QB that we have hated over the years - the guy that will just pick you apart. I don’t think we have seen what he can do.

I think that's a fair scenario. Meaning that if our OL is good and our WRs step up then TD can be good. IMO, that isn't a franchise QB at the college level. You are hoping for a lot of breaks to go your way to give a QB that has had many, many snaps to lock his starting spot.

Again, if Dino's job wasn't on the line, I think TD could get more leeway to see what he can do.

I'm just guessing that the coaches see that Ohio isn't a walk and if they have to bet their jobs, they are going with GS.

If TD starts and crushes it, great.

Wins on the board are all I care about. TD, GS, whoever. To me, answering the who starts question is as much a question of the coach's view on the leeway they have to risk even a single drive against Ohio. Maybe GS stinks in practice and this is moot and it's TD all the way. I dunno. I'm just guessing it's going to be the guy that was brought in by a coach on the hot seat.