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An exciting new hire would likely be able to keep the players we want for next year and the recruiting class together. And who knows what he would even be able to get in the portal. There’s absolutely no reason we couldn’t be a tournament team next year with a new coach.
I think the problem is that a new coach would release everyone from their NLIs? The whole team would need to be re-recruited. (I know. It's 2025. That is easier now, etc.)
 
Don’t ask questions. It’s Red’s time. He is the most qualified head coaching candidate in school history. He earned this. Ignore your eyes and all evidence to the contrary. It’s your duty to support him. Buy season tickets. Subscribe to the collective. Eat your dome dogs. Shut up and do as you are told. Everything is fine. Syracuse basketball is in great shape. We just need your money!
LOL maybe instead, I should “just get a life.”
 
If I'm reading the tea leaves correctly, Red gets another year because of Team Melo. They will bankroll the program for 2-3 years. I have to imagine there will be strings attached. I really hope Melo isn't liking what he's seeing right now...
The Melo issue is funny. What’s the upside financially for Melo doing this? Don’t get me wrong. Personal vanity projects and love for one’s child are perfectly valid reasons to spend big bucks. But most ultra high net worth individuals I meet are notoriously cheap. Look at LeBron. His NBA buddies clown on his cheapness; for example, he won’t even pay for Spotify premium. Big expenditures are usually supported by a business/financial upside. Suffice it to say, to this outsider, the expectation that Melo is going to be our program sugar daddy seems off and an impractical solution. I hope I’m wrong. Maybe Melo has that much money that he can just throw a couple million each year at a loser college basketball vanity project, but I don’t see an upside for him to single-handedly support this program. When he built the melo center, he got a nice tax write off, which isn’t possible for NIL.
 
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The Melo issue is funny. What’s the upside financially for Melo doing this? Don’t get me wrong. Personal vanity projects and love for one’s child are perfectly valid reasons to spend big bucks. But most ultra high net worth individuals I meet are notoriously cheap. Look at LeBron. His NBA buddies clown on his cheapness; for example, he won’t even pay for Spotify premium. Big expenditures are usually supported by a business/financial upside. Look at Weitsman. Once he could no longer use SU hoops as a platform for his personal brand building, his NIL dried up. And from what I understand, his donations were pretty paltry for a big local billionaire. While Kent doesn’t want him around campus, nothing is stopping him from cutting checks to the collectives. But without exposure, such donations don’t seem to be worth his time. Suffice it to say, to this outsider, the expectation that Melo is going to be our program sugar daddy seems off and an impractical solution. I hope I’m wrong. Maybe Melo has that much money that he can just throw a couple million each year at a loser college basketball vanity project, but I don’t see an upside for him to single-handedly support this program. When he built the melo center, he got a nice tax write off, which isn’t possible for NIL.
Just can't see the family allowing Kiyan to come to a program in such a disaster.
Red has shown no ability to coach or lead a team.
None of the current or incoming freshman are going to make this a top 25 team.
 
Because it’s honestly probably not a big problem. We have a roster on paper going into the year that good coaching should have a lot of success with. We have a major preparation and execution issue that more donor money doesn’t necessarily solve.
And I see that argument too. There’s a place for solving problems by throwing money at them, but it’s lazy and not the only way to get things done. SU may not be a team rolling in donor money, but they have enough to build a competitive team. The talent evaluation the last decade is pretty poor and seems like wasted resources combined with a lack of coaching. I heard a lot about the team being analytical, but I don’t see any evidence in support of that.
 
And I see that argument too. There’s a place for solving problems by throwing money at them, but it’s lazy and not the only way to get things done. SU may not be a team rolling in donor money, but they have enough to build a competitive team. The talent evaluation the last decade is pretty poor and seems like wasted resources combined with a lack of coaching. I heard a lot about the team being analytical, but I don’t see any evidence in support of that.
But but but we have a wizard boy GM with NBA creds!

(Results ≠ effort ≠ influencer ≠ ego)
 
fran’s best business quality is reaching out to donors/alumni and telling them what we need, why, and what happens if we don’t get it. He markets his program to those that will bankroll it if they buy in. We can’t have x if you dont provide y.

Thats not happening in basketball

Where do you get that from? Not the Fran part he's great.

They've done multiple donor sweeps through DC, time with Jerami Grant and others, etc.
 
The Melo issue is funny. What’s the upside financially for Melo doing this? Don’t get me wrong. Personal vanity projects and love for one’s child are perfectly valid reasons to spend big bucks. But most ultra high net worth individuals I meet are notoriously cheap. Look at LeBron. His NBA buddies clown on his cheapness; for example, he won’t even pay for Spotify premium. Big expenditures are usually supported by a business/financial upside. Suffice it to say, to this outsider, the expectation that Melo is going to be our program sugar daddy seems off and an impractical solution. I hope I’m wrong. Maybe Melo has that much money that he can just throw a couple million each year at a loser college basketball vanity project, but I don’t see an upside for him to single-handedly support this program. When he built the melo center, he got a nice tax write off, which isn’t possible for NIL.
I've said multiple times that LaLa also has her own 30 million and Kiyan on his own has 40 mil with Social Media and clothing lines and branding. It's not just daddy Melo with the $'s in that family. I actually expect LaLa to be the one spending money. Not proposing that it's a fix or a crutch or that it wouldn't be better spent under a different staff. Just saying.
 
The Melo issue is funny. What’s the upside financially for Melo doing this? Don’t get me wrong. Personal vanity projects and love for one’s child are perfectly valid reasons to spend big bucks. But most ultra high net worth individuals I meet are notoriously cheap. Look at LeBron. His NBA buddies clown on his cheapness; for example, he won’t even pay for Spotify premium. Big expenditures are usually supported by a business/financial upside. Suffice it to say, to this outsider, the expectation that Melo is going to be our program sugar daddy seems off and an impractical solution. I hope I’m wrong. Maybe Melo has that much money that he can just throw a couple million each year at a loser college basketball vanity project, but I don’t see an upside for him to single-handedly support this program. When he built the melo center, he got a nice tax write off, which isn’t possible for NIL.
The upside is to setup Kiyan with solid players around him. However, we've seen this movie before with Buddy and Jimmy. We're not going to get the best player at Kiyan's position and future players will need to be approved by Team Melo. There's a lot of risk/reward here.
 
I've said multiple times that LaLa also has her own 30 million and Kiyan on his own has 40 mil with Social Media and clothing lines and branding. It's not just daddy Melo with the $'s in that family. I actually expect LaLa to be the one spending money.
Again, wishful thinking. Not in any way validated.
 
Where do you get that from? Not the Fran part he's great.

They've done multiple donor sweeps through DC, time with Jerami Grant and others, etc.
CNY non-former players alums/business owners
 
The upside is to setup Kiyan with solid players around him. However, we've seen this movie before with Buddy and Jimmy. We're not going to get the best player at Kiyan's position and future players will need to be approved by Team Melo. There's a lot of risk/reward here.
Not true. Very involved with Smith. Both are off guards.
 
What will be the attitude if he wins in year 3 though? Everyone gonna praise JW for not firing him? General question for the board..
I'm sure most of are glad that we gave Coach Mac a few years
 
What will be the attitude if he wins in year 3 though? Everyone gonna praise JW for not firing him? General question for the board..

IMO it will feel a lot like the Dino situation to me. I have seen nothing from a coaching perspective, talent evaluation perspective, and development perspective that would lead me to believe that any success from Red next year could be sustainable. Does he have a chance to change my mind sure but it cant be words at this point I need to see it on the court.

Say he does make the tournament next year what then? Extend him because that is what normally happens. Just sounds a whole bunch like Dino.
 
are you happy that shafer got more years? or Robinson? Or Dino?

He is the outlier, not the norm
Name any coach in any sport in the history of Syracuse University Athletics that has been fired after two years.
 
Name any coach in any sport in the history of Syracuse University Athletics that has been fired after two years.
Irrelevant. Continuity coach for a dying regime. The continuity is garbage thus he should be gone.

But yeah, lets go waste another year, and be national embarrassment so we can stay in lockstep with history... I mean come on, the keep red crowd cant even point to his abilities anymore to defend him.
 
Irrelevant. Continuity coach for a dying regime. The continuity is garbage thus he should be gone.

But yeah, lets go waste another year, and be national embarrassment so we can stay in lockstep with history... I mean come on, the keep red crowd cant even point to his abilities anymore to defend him.
I would've been disappointed if you didn't respond exactly as you have.
 
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