Would you take Mike Hopkins as next coach?

[STEVEHOLT]

All due respect to Hop, this hire has to be someone that has no connection to JB. And a better track record as an HC.

Good luck with that. Why should someone with that type of track record sign up for this.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Do I think another coach would have us 16-5 or 17-4? Yes, I do. We might have the worst game day coaching the conference.

There’s just no way it would be that different with our guard situation specifically. Now a different coach may have brought in different players but that’s a separate argument

 

[Cusefan0307]

There’s just no way it would be that different with our guard situation specifically. Now a different coach may have brought in different players but that’s a separate argument

Well a different coach may play Kingz at the 2. I’d be hard pressed to think we would be any worse in second half’s than we are now.

 

[Sherman20]

The original plan I heard was that John and Kent were both retiring this summer. Maybe with KS leaving early the plan was scuttled.

Personally, I like JW and hope he stays on and takes care of the hoops situation. We'll see.

I don’t see how Wildhack is going anywhere at this point. The new chancellor hire hasn’t even been announced or finalized. We’re gonna need a new coach in less than two months and Wildhack’s main job will be to hire a new basketball coach. Hopefully he’s already deep in that process and jockeying behind the scenes. He’s gonna have to steer the ship through these waters, and he’s gonna have to work hard to find the funds to lure Schertz (or other top candidates) and sell all the upsides and positives of the job if need be.

 

[SUFan44]

Those are my four as well. I’m starting to think Hodgson might be the guy as well.

Skinn to GTown does make sense.

Hodgson is a TERRIBLE idea and would be flat out horrible.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Hodgson is a TERRIBLE idea and would be flat out horrible.

And the reason being…..

 

[Cusefan69]

I don’t see how Wildhack is going anywhere at this point. The new chancellor hire hasn’t even been announced or finalized. We’re gonna need a new coach in less than two months and Wildhack’s main job will be to hire a new basketball coach. Hopefully he’s already deep in that process and jockeying behind the scenes. He’s gonna have to steer the ship through these waters, and he’s gonna have to work hard to find the funds to lure Schertz (or other top candidates) and sell all the upsides and positives of the job if need be.

I would go a step further and barring ADJW replacement already being on campus, I would wager that ADJW is probably staying on another 3 years at least. No way do we get the type of coach we want without certainty in the AD office for a period of time. If the coach doesn't get the sense there is leadership stability and with that stability alignment on philosophies and such, no one would come here. My prediction is our new coach will meet with the future Chancellor, get assurance on ADJW and will meet with both big ticket donors and a couple reps from the BoT who perhaps are on an AD subcommittee or something. Like Tirico maybe. I also think we will get whomever we target.

 

[JarHeadJim]

I love Mike Hopkins! But no.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Say Hop took over in 2017, he probably does worse than that part of the JB era (from 2017-2021 we were probably ranked around 40th on average for those 5 years; couple notches down from our peak but not bad overall) and after 4 or 5 mediocre seasons Hop would have been out and we would have been back at square 1 looking for a new HC.

And why do you assume that?

He had 22 years on the staff, and was one of the best recruiters in the country.

When he went to Washington, he took a team that wasw 9-22 the year before, and went 21-13j. And then the next year they went 27-9 and made the NCAA tournament.

He had several guys drafted in his first 3 years - Matisse Thybulle, Jaden McDaniels, Isaiah Stewart, and he had a bunch of good players like Nazh Carter, Hamier Wright and Quade Green.

If he stayed on the East Coast where all his recruiting connections were, we probably would have kept rolling in Top 100 recruits every year, and we wouldn't have seen the talent fall-off that happened.

How long he could have kept it going, we don't know, because maybe he wasn't a good bench coach, or maybe he just lost his recruiting connections. Who knows? But I think he had more chops than Autry has shown. I think everyone would agree with that.

 

[IthacaMatt]

Good luck with that. Why should someone with that type of track record sign up for this.

Money.
And if we don't have it, or aren't willing to spend it, we'll soon find out. I just hope we don't get another coach who made a cold call and got the job.

 

[SUFan44]

Skinn is fine... but I would warn that 2.5 years of success at George Mason, in my opinion, is not necessarily enough to be worthy of the Syracuse job.

Schertz should be #1 and #2.

Hodgson should not even be in the conversation. Ever. Terrible reputation in Buffalo. Terrible reputation everywhere. Watch a postgame press conference of his. You be the judge.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Skinn is fine... but I would warn that 2.5 years of success at George Mason, in my opinion, is not necessarily enough to be worthy of the Syracuse job.

Schertz should be #1 and #2.

Hodgson should not even be in the conversation. Ever. Terrible reputation in Buffalo. Terrible reputation everywhere. Watch a postgame press conference of his. You be the judge.

Show us some examples of Hodgson. Here is a press conference from last week, and I'm not sure I see what you are referring about.



And below is a shorter one, after a loss. I don't see a problem.

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[PoppyHart]

And why do you assume that?

He had 22 years on the staff, and was one of the best recruiters in the country.

When he went to Washington, he took a team that wasw 9-22 the year before, and went 21-13j. And then the next year they went 27-9 and made the NCAA tournament.

He had several guys drafted in his first 3 years - Matisse Thybulle, Jaden McDaniels, Isaiah Stewart, and he had a bunch of good players like Nazh Carter, Hamier Wright and Quade Green.

If he stayed on the East Coast where all his recruiting connections were, we probably would have kept rolling in Top 100 recruits every year, and we wouldn't have seen the talent fall-off that happened.

How long he could have kept it going, we don't know, because maybe he wasn't a good bench coach, or maybe he just lost his recruiting connections. Who knows? But I think he had more chops than Autry has shown. I think everyone would agree with that.

You are giving him an awful lot of credit for those first two years. Do you realize how bad the PAC-12 was at that time? No "power" conference winner goes 27-9 (15-3), wins the league by 3 games, goes unranked and gets an 8-seed in the NCAAT.

The ACC, meanwhile, had the #1, #2, and #3 team in 2018-19. (#10 and 16 as well, fwiw).

Maybe Hop would have found a way to compete with the big boys in the ACC in his first couple years, and if that occurred, it would have been a far greater indicator of his coaching ability and staying power than what he accomplished in Seattle. We'll never know, of course.

 

[littlereg]

actually he is my #2 choice to Skinn. He becomes #1 if a booster pledges a lot of money to back him up. And what BH did isn't as much embarrassing as showing that he is a asshat

I also like Skinn as my favorite as I just don’t think a Schertz is leaving St. Louis this year. But yeah, I definitely wouldn’t have said it either I don’t disagree by any means on that front just that it shouldnt effect the hiring process and donor opinions much if any, although it’s not my money and just my opinion which everyone will be different on. I just hope when it comes to making the move for the school and program the best candidate both on the court and off the court is chosen and until proven otherwise I’m definitely skeptical. The money to back him up via said donor is a huge factor potentially as you mentioned.

 

[SUFan44]

Show us some examples of Hodgson. Here is a press conference from last week, and I'm not sure I see what you are referring about.



And below is a shorter one, after a loss. I don't see a problem.

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First of all, he's known as a shady guy. Has a terrible reputation. The Autry comment along is enough to disqualify him from head coach candidacy in my eyes.

Second of all, he's known as a guy who is absolutely full of himself.

Third of all, I have it on good authority that his players do not like him. First-hand account.

Also, he's had less success than Skinn at lower levels. Color me unimpressed.

 

[Cusefan0307]

First of all, he's known as a shady guy. Has a terrible reputation. The Autry comment along is enough to disqualify him from head coach candidacy in my eyes.

Second of all, he's known as a guy who is absolutely full of himself.

Third of all, I have it on good authority that his players do not like him. First-hand account.

Also, he's had less success than Skinn at lower levels. Color me unimpressed.

He’s coached 3 years. He took Arkansas St from 13 wins to 25 wins in two years. South Florida was 13-19 last year. They are 14-8 now. You may not like him, but he’s turned two programs around very quickly.

 

[RedtheGOB]

First of all, he's known as a shady guy. Has a terrible reputation. The Autry comment along is enough to disqualify him from head coach candidacy in my eyes.

Second of all, he's known as a guy who is absolutely full of himself.

Third of all, I have it on good authority that his players do not like him. First-hand account.

Also, he's had less success than Skinn at lower levels. Color me unimpressed.

How shady? I like him already!

Old Rick Barnes just gave a presser and said he thought his players were gambling on the games cuz they were playing so badly.

The interview process is what will bring the cream to the top

 

[cliftonparksufan]

First of all, he's known as a shady guy. Has a terrible reputation. The Autry comment along is enough to disqualify him from head coach candidacy in my eyes.

Second of all, he's known as a guy who is absolutely full of himself.

Third of all, I have it on good authority that his players do not like him. First-hand account.

Also, he's had less success than Skinn at lower levels. Color me unimpressed.

I said this weeks ago that a lot of successful top coaches have an edge to them, and not universally well liked. Guys like Pitino, Calipari, Coach K, our own JAB, Pearl, Oats, Willard, Hurley.

 

[MSOrange]

He’s coached 3 years. He took Arkansas St from 13 wins to 25 wins in two years. South Florida was 13-19 last year. They are 14-8 now. You may not like him, but he’s turned two programs around very quickly.

Agree and if we're eliminating coaches who are full of themselves, we'll really limit the pool. I guess I'd be interested in more details about the shady part. To be shady in this new world of seemingly no rules would be quite an accomplishment.

 

[kcsu]

What makes you say that? Did he win you over with his personality?

Pac coach of the year, good recruiter. Got screwed by Jim.

 

[kcsu]

I’d encourage that for people jumping to disqualify the guy for the job. Obviously, you won’t hear what was said, but it was definitely not just said out of the blue like some are making it seem.

Also, I guess everybody here has never said something they regret in the heat of the moment. If every coach’s trash talk was made public, the list of potential options for those ruling him out would be close to zero.

This same game would for sure eliminate Chris Caputo of GW, and if you want to hold players to the same standards, cross Trey Autry of the list as well.

JB said more stuff than all of those guys combined

 

[RedtheGOB]

I said this weeks ago that a lot of successful top coaches have an edge to them, and not universally well liked. Guys like Pitino, Calipari, Coach K, our own JAB, Pearl, Oats, Willard.

100%. Look at football coaches and NBA coaches.

I just watched the Miracle documentary on Netflix which was excellent The US hockey team hated Herb. Despised him ha

 

[BillSU]

HELL YES!

 

[MSOrange]

Pac coach of the year, good recruiter. Got screwed by Jim.

All true, but I'd say his coaching prowess really got exposed after his first couple years. That coach of the year season appears to be the exception, not the rule.

 

[baggerbob]

I also like Skinn as my favorite as I just don’t think a Schertz is leaving St. Louis this year. But yeah, I definitely wouldn’t have said it either I don’t disagree by any means on that front just that it shouldnt effect the hiring process and donor opinions much if any, although it’s not my money and just my opinion which everyone will be different on. I just hope when it comes to making the move for the school and program the best candidate both on the court and off the court is chosen and until proven otherwise I’m definitely skeptical. The money to back him up via said donor is a huge factor potentially as you mentioned.

I think everyone should lower their expectations, we don't have any billionaires to throw money at the program. So it's going to take a new coach a few years of building the program, to get enough money to compete at the tier below the top 5 or 10.
But we probably can get back to being in the 10 to 20 range consistently.