Wow talk about a tough schedule

[SmilinBob]

Our BCS dance card is filled up for the time being, since we'll probably only be playing 1 BCS team OOC a season once we join the ACC.

2013 - PSU & NW
2014 - ND
2015 - ND
2016 - ND
2017 - ND
2020 - PSU
2021 - PSU

Good point with only 18 and 19 not filling out the dance card. 10 aq's is more than enough.

 

[PhatOrange]

Man just got the schedule and Doug has his work cut out for him. Really tough row to hoe if he can win 5 -6 out of this mess he should be given an extension. Syracuse fans are really taking it in the rear this year.

While it’s a tough schedule it’s not really any tougher than it was already going to be.

At Oklahoma was a sure ass beating. At Missouri not so much – they are a pedestrian team and frankly what should be considered a peer team and a team we can beat on the road.

At Missouri or At WVU is a wash.

The only ridiculous thing about the schedule is 5 home games.

 

[Alsacs]

Crappy non BCS teams shouldn't expect 1 and 1s. If we offer at SU, at your place, at SU most would accept and there is no threat of SU not showing up at their place.

We have given Miami(Oh), and Tulane 1-1s. I don't expect every non-BCS agreement to be 1-1, but I doubt teams from the West in midmajors would give us 1-1s without the first game at their place. Whether you agree or not the Wyoming buyout will affect with these schools. USF gave Nevada a 1-1 and the first game in Reno.

 

[sutomcat]

Our BCS dance card is filled up for the time being, since we'll probably only be playing 1 BCS team OOC a season once we join the ACC.

2013 - PSU & NW
2014 - ND
2015 - ND
2016 - ND
2017 - ND
2020 - PSU
2021 - PSU

That is no excuse. Slot it in 2022 if you have to. You never, NEVER, NEVER schedule an away game without getting a home game in return. We broke a fundamental rule of scheduling again.

Those that are saying (as was said the last time we only had 5 home games) that this is a one time thing are misinformed.

Because there is no return game, this move will result in us playing another 5 home game season sometime in the future (or we play 2 FCS teams, which I agree is also unacceptable).

It is bad enough to wait so long you have no choice but to have to endure a season with only 5 home games. Signing up to do it again down the road is completely unacceptable.

Decorum prevents me from elaborating further.

 

[All4SU]

How am I pro Schiano scheduling?? We are allready playing USC, NW, Minnesota, plus 3 Conference teams we havent beaten in half a decade. Newsflash this team isnt that good it needs a bowl game and we are allready playing the projected #1 team in the Nation. Yet you will just sit back and take pot shots at the locals, how many games are you attending this year? 1 maybe?

Well, you can't do anything about the conference games. SU has always played one top BCS team (USC), we've always played a couple of mid-tier BCS teams (NW and Minnesota). Normally, we would weave in a Akron or Toledo -- instead this year we get Missouri. We never used to schedule a 1AA team, but now we have Stony Brook. I just don't see how this is such an overwhelming daunting schedule. Other than only having 5 home games -- which sucks -- it's pretty much SU's "normal" schedule.

 

[kcsu]

That is no excuse. Slot it in 2022 if you have to. You never, NEVER, NEVER schedule an away game without getting a home game in return. We broke a fundamental rule of scheduling again.

Those that are saying (as was said the last time we only had 5 home games) that this is a one time thing are misinformed.

Because there is no return game, this move will result in us playing another 5 home game season sometime in the future (or we play 2 FCS teams, which I agree is also unacceptable).

It is bad enough to wait so long you have no choice but to have to endure a season with only 5 home games. Signing up to do it again down the road is completely unacceptable.

Decorum prevents me from elaborating further.

Tom it isnt like we didnt have other options. It isnt like Doc and the gang doesnt know that we are going to have a problem in the future. Why in your opinion did this happen? Who is in charge of scheduling on the Hill? Should he or she be replaced. Also with Lax and Hoops as bargaining chips im really surprised we couldnt work something out. For my part i think it shows an Ath dept that is completely about the bottom line. We had heard last fall that an annoucement on the new football facility was just around the corner and this was from a pretty good source. Since than nothing. Not good.

 

[DeepThrowIt]

imho, this schedule is setting the program back another two or three years. brutal.

 

[kingottoiii]

That is no excuse. Slot it in 2022 if you have to. You never, NEVER, NEVER schedule an away game without getting a home game in return. We broke a fundamental rule of scheduling again.

Those that are saying (as was said the last time we only had 5 home games) that this is a one time thing are misinformed.

Because there is no return game, this move will result in us playing another 5 home game season sometime in the future (or we play 2 FCS teams, which I agree is also unacceptable).

It is bad enough to wait so long you have no choice but to have to endure a season with only 5 home games. Signing up to do it again down the road is completely unacceptable.

Decorum prevents me from elaborating further.

We should have asked for a return date in 2018 or 2019. We could see only 5 home games next year as well. We really are at the ACC's mercy. Hopefully they throw us a bone and give us 5 Home conference games. Otherwise ouch. But starting in 2014 we should never see 5 home again. There is no reason for it. As long as we schedule the OOC game opposite the 9th ACC game (so one home, one away), we will be at 6 home games every year.

EDIT
We could ask NW to move our game back should the ACC give us 5 away games next year. Then we can fill an OOC game as the 6th home game. For instance moving @NW to 2014 makes both 2013 and 2014 six home game seasons.

2013
H- 5 (4 ACC, 1 1AA)
A- 5 (4 ACC, NW)
N- 1 (PSU)
ACC TBD- 1
If we have 5 ACC road games next year then we are stuck at 5 again.

2014
H- 5 (4 ACC, 1 1AA)
A- 4 (4 ACC)
N- 1 (ND)
ACC TBD- 1
TBD- 1
We need a 5th ACC home game or an OOC home game to get to 6. This should not be an issue.

2015
H- 5 (4 ACC, 1 1AA)
A- 5 (4 ACC, ND)
N- 0
ACC TBD- 1
TBD- 1
We need a 5th ACC home game or an OOC home game to get to 6.

2016
H- 5 (4 ACC, 1 1AA)
A- 4 (4 ACC)
N- 1 (ND)
ACC TBD- 1
TBD- 1
We need a 5th ACC home game or an OOC home game to get to 6.

2017

H- 5 (4 ACC, 1 1AA)
A- 5 (4 ACC, ND)
N- 0
ACC TBD- 1
TBD- 1

We need a 5th ACC home game or an OOC home game to get to 6.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

imho, this schedule is setting the program back another two or three years. brutal.

We're replacing WVU and TCU with Missouri and Temple.

Seems less brutal to me.

 

[KaiserUEO]

As a SU fan this is very friendly. 5 home games, 2 close games in NJ, 1 close game in Philly, a nice trip to Tampa, and a not so bad trip to Minny. That is 10 out of 12 games people should be able to get out to.

holy shlit, im gonna see 3 games this year!! wow, that hasnt happened since '00 i think. plus, im considering a Dome appearance.

toss in the Pinstripe and that makes 5.

best schedule since 98.

Oh Lord

 

[OrangeXtreme]

holy shlit, im gonna see 3 games this year!! wow, that hasnt happened since '00 i think. plus, im considering a Dome appearance.

toss in the Pinstripe and that makes 5.

best schedule since 98.

Oh Lord

Keep your fingers crossed ... maybe the Jints are playing at the Linc the same weekend SU plays Temple.

 

[Orangello]

imho, this schedule is setting the program back another two or three years. brutal.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The only traveling I'll be doing in Dec. or Jan. is to an SU BB game.

 

[kingtidge]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The only traveling I'll be doing in Dec. or Jan. is to an SU BB game.

Yeah - as a STH from the capital district, it's not happening this year. I won't be renewing for this crappola schedule...

I kinda feel bad about it... but I kinda don't.

This is an class-A botch-job by TGD and the athletic department... I'm sure I'm not the only out-of-towner STH that won't be stroking a check for this...

 

[suorange08]

We should have asked for a return date in 2018 or 2019. We could see only 5 home games next year as well. We really are at the ACC's mercy. Hopefully they throw us a bone and give us 5 Home conference games. Otherwise ouch. But starting in 2014 we should never see 5 home again. There is no reason for it. As long as we schedule the OOC game opposite the 9th ACC game (so one home, one away), we will be at 6 home games every year.

EDIT
We could ask NW to move our game back should the ACC give us 5 away games next year. Then we can fill an OOC game as the 6th home game. For instance moving @NW to 2014 makes both 2013 and 2014 six home game seasons.

I get the feeling we will have 5 ACC road games next year, just seems to be the way it works with us.

Interesting idea about NW. One issue is that NW is full for 2014 and 2015 (they have 1 game left which will go to a 1aa). 2016 is the only other year open.

 

[Cadillac]

Dammit guys, I was about to mock some of our hoops-only friends who are all couchburn because someone at ESPN has the nerve, god forbid, to hold the opinion that UK is the favorite in the tournament.

Then I check in here and its couchburncouchburncouchburn

 

[kingtidge]

Dammit guys, I was about to mock some of our hoops-only friends who are all couchburn because someone at ESPN has the nerve, god forbid, to hold the opinion that UK is the favorite in the tournament.

Then I check in here and its couchburncouchburncouchburn

ESPN pundit bitching = threads where people are bored.

This 2012 Football Schedule debacle is a legit 3-couch-on-fire issue...

 

[DeepThrowIt]

We're replacing WVU and TCU with Missouri and Temple.

Seems less brutal to me.

The difference is those would have been conference games so we would have had no choice. We chose to play #1 USC on the road (neutral is a road game), a probable top 25 team in Missouri on the road, an improved Minnesota team on the road, and the always dangerous (as long as Fitz is patrolling their sideline) Northwestern Wildcats. This program needs wins, not marquee matchups.

I am against two FCS teams in principle, but at the same time this team NEEDS to win and go to a bowl next year. If we needed to soften the schedule a bit, so be it.

Winning cures all (recruiting, ticket sales, donations, etc...) and with this schedule I am afraid they may be too tough to come by next season.

Just my opinion.

 

[bnoro]

I am against two FCS teams in principle, but at the same time this team NEEDS to win and go to a bowl next year. If we needed to soften the schedule a bit, so be it.

But you can count only one of those games as a win so I don't see how it helps us.

 

[Marsh01]

But you can count only one of those games as a win so I don't see how it helps us.

It doesnt help us which is why I for one am thrilled we didnt schedule another FCS team. Is that where we are now sheduling sh1tass teams just to have that warm fuzzy feeling when we beat them? I'd much rather see us play Mizzou, get beat 31-23 in a decent game than beat an FCS school 44-10.

 

[DeepThrowIt]

But you can count only one of those games as a win so I don't see how it helps us.

I understand that, but its all about perception. The perception of recruits, donors, the nation, etc...

Cuse going 9-3 with two wins against FCS teams is going to help perception more than Cuse going 5-7 or 6-6 against this schedule. Think about it. Other than the people on here, who is going to care that two of those wins came against FCS opponents? The people this program should be trying to win over, won't care about this. We are in a rebuilding mode still, we are not ready to load up our schedule like this from an OOC standpoint. Being able to say "yeah, but two of our losses came to USC and Missouri" doesn't work how some here think it does.

SYRACUSE NEEDS WINS.

 

[bnoro]

I understand that, but its all about perception. The perception of recruits, donors, the nation, etc...

Cuse going 9-3 with two wins against FCS teams is going to help perception more than Cuse going 5-7 or 6-6 against this schedule. Think about it. Other than the people on here, who is going to care that two of those wins came against FCS opponents? The people this program should be trying to win over, won't care about this. We are in a rebuilding mode still, we are not ready to load up our schedule like this from an OOC standpoint. Being able to say "yeah, but two of our losses came to USC and Missouri" doesn't work how some here think it does.

SYRACUSE NEEDS WINS.

So you think if they have two FCS schools they'll go 9-3, but not doing so makes us 6-6? If you think we will go 9-3 with two FCS schools, that means you think we'll go 8-4 adding Mizzou. Your logic is flawed. And the same people that rip on Rutgers schedules nationwide will rip on ours.

Perception would be Syracuse is scheduling weak. Instead, we will be looked at as having one of the best OOC's in the country, and if we pull out some of these tough games, people will look at us even better. If we knock off Mizzou, the perception of our program will be better.

 

[OttoMets]

right like its been fun watching su this past decade-and marrones offensive style has pumped it up quite a bit
reward those who did stick by you ? hell no lets get the best ooc games in another state ,no way those who stood by deserve to watch nd usc or penn st as a home game-

im sorry but i told myself last year that if i didnt see something positive in 11 i would not buy again in 12-money is tight and ill spend it where i get some satisfaction or enjoyment-
at this point in time i would rather listen to a bad football game than go to one

those who have the means to travel -good for you-just dont give me **** because i dont

Thanks for reminding me why I took a hiatus from reading the football board.

P.S. - "Deserve" has nothing to do with it; Syracuse University doesn't owe you anything.

 

[Cuseman78]

I understand that, but its all about perception. The perception of recruits, donors, the nation, etc...

Cuse going 9-3 with two wins against FCS teams is going to help perception more than Cuse going 5-7 or 6-6 against this schedule. Think about it. Other than the people on here, who is going to care that two of those wins came against FCS opponents? The people this program should be trying to win over, won't care about this. We are in a rebuilding mode still, we are not ready to load up our schedule like this from an OOC standpoint. Being able to say "yeah, but two of our losses came to USC and Missouri" doesn't work how some here think it does.

SYRACUSE NEEDS WINS.

Again, we scheduled Mizzou, not the Packers. Its a tough BCS, but winnable, road game. Our program was built on playing any and all comers. I'm glad we are continuing to do this and aren't resorting to Rutgers-type win padding. As we all know, that's a horse way to build a program (and its been proven to do them no good with a still empty trophy case).

We had a disappointing 5-7 season last year but this is not the Grob era. Don't tell me we can't win meaningful road games. Are you really chalking this up as a loss already? Such a defeatist fan base.

 

[OttoMets]

Would have been nice to have them at the Dome in a few years oh well no shock there god forbid we get a return game who are we Rice, awful job.

So we beat their asses out there and they don't even get a rematch.

Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me.

 

[rosconey]

Thanks for reminding me why I took a hiatus from reading the football board.

P.S. - "Deserve" has nothing to do with it; Syracuse University doesn't owe you anything.

your welcome-i guess opinions other than yours just cant be right

and syracuse does owe the local fan base good ooc games