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Offensively, in the presser he did say it was Red and Gmacs idea to switch to iso...;-)
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To be fair, Virginia's lack of athleticism had as much to do with the effectiveness of the zone as anything. They clearly lack speed off the dribble, which is what hurts the zone more than anything. They also don't have bigs that athletically play above the rim. There were very few lobs for dunks, which we've seen hurt us in other games.
That said, don't forget that the same Coach Boeheim and his team that won today still lost those games earlier in the season. They're likely to win and lose more games this season. Hyperbole either way is silliness.
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I'm glad he listened to them. That was a smart adjustment given our athletic advantage on the wings.
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Did you see a bunch of lobs for dunks? I didn't.
Did you see a bunch of dribble drives that created havoc against the zone? I didn't.
Did you see elite college athletes on Virginia? I certainly didn't.
I saw a slow-footed point guard, a big named Salt who couldn't jump, and two freshmen that looked like good shooters, but physically unable to drive the ball.
Sorry to bust your pre-determined narrative with concrete examples, though.
Stop. When they were losing, there were no shortage of people saying the things I posted. Of course we will lose more games (and win more as well) this season. The point is and was that the guy knows how to coach and win.
LOL yeah, they suckDid you see a bunch of lobs for dunks? I didn't.
Did you see a bunch of dribble drives that created havoc against the zone? I didn't.
Did you see elite college athletes on Virginia? I certainly didn't.
I saw a slow-footed point guard, a big named Salt who couldn't jump, and two freshmen that looked like good shooters, but physically unable to drive the ball.
Sorry to bust your pre-determined narrative with concrete examples, though.
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My point is that questioning his ability to coach and win is hyperbole--we have 40 years of proof that he can. Likewise, your smug response to those people in this thread is equally silly.
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Gee, if I cared in any way what you thought, I might care. but alas, I don't. And the smug part is all yours. I was having a bit of fun on a day that we beat a top 10 team. One that I learned has no athletic ability but a top 10 team nonetheless. Florida St is another team with no athletic ability I guess.
Cant really argue w that ! But also worth noting Shyock is a pretty good athlete and skilled but we shut him down. He was lost against the zone imo and he was the guy i was most worried about before the game. Clearly not their best player but still a guy who could really hurt us imoDid you see a bunch of lobs for dunks? I didn't.
Did you see a bunch of dribble drives that created havoc against the zone? I didn't.
Did you see elite college athletes on Virginia? I certainly didn't.
I saw a slow-footed point guard, a big named Salt who couldn't jump, and two freshmen that looked like good shooters, but physically unable to drive the ball.
Sorry to bust your pre-determined narrative with concrete examples, though.
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um UVA is one of the most efficient offensive teams in the country - look what they did at L'vlle, at Cal, etc... who the cares about their athleticism? Fl St is athletic as hell and JB's zone dispatched of them, tooDid you see a bunch of lobs for dunks? I didn't.
Did you see a bunch of dribble drives that created havoc against the zone? I didn't.
Did you see elite college athletes on Virginia? I certainly didn't.
I saw a slow-footed point guard, a big named Salt who couldn't jump, and two freshmen that looked like good shooters, but physically unable to drive the ball.
Sorry to bust your pre-determined narrative with concrete examples, though.
Imo fla st and uva are two legit top 15 teams, BUT with almost opposite styles of play...and we adjusted and beat both of them! Not easy to do! Would love to see us knock off a top 15 team on the road now...
You have been doing the wrong job all of your life. Coaching must be easy and it must be easy to make a million a year doing it.
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Well for 20 minutes or so...
I actually thought the zone looked much better today even though UVA numbers were good. They went about 8 minutes without 1 good look.
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Why start the thread if not to provoke those that you clearly aimed this thread at?
That doesn't fit the narrative. And stop being positive. No need for that here.
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Efficient isn't athletic. Teams that can't dribble penetrate a zone nor lob over it will struggle if they aren't on fire from three. Coach Beoheim himself talks about this in his 2-3 Zone DVD.
