2019 Coaching Carousel

[NJfootball]

Turned down Boston College offer to take job at Rutgers. Has major recruiting contacts in North Jersey. Rutgers will be recruiting at a high level very soon...

 

[corpjet]

Rhule to the Panthers, cue the Dino to Baylor thread!

 

[Jake]

Rhule to the Panthers, cue the Dino to Baylor thread!

And Rocky Long as his DC...

 

[PhatOrange]

Turned down Boston College offer to take job at Rutgers. Has major recruiting contacts in North Jersey. Rutgers will be recruiting at a high level very soon...

great another rutgers fan.

 

[TheCusian]

Turned down Boston College offer to take job at Rutgers. Has major recruiting contacts in North Jersey. Rutgers will be recruiting at a high level very soon...

The problem with this statement is someone says it every year and it’s never happened. Rutgers always finishes ahead of us in recruiting but is consistently behind us in results... and we’ve not been great aside from 2018.

Maybe it will happen, but the burden of proof is on Shady, Rutgers fans, and people who consistently post this stuff here

 

[CuseLegacy]

great another rutgers fan.

Somewhere there is a transfer portal to this site that needs a locked door.

 

[NJfootball]

The problem with this statement is someone says it every year and it’s never happened. Rutgers always finishes ahead of us in recruiting but is consistently behind us in results... and we’ve not been great aside from 2018.

Maybe it will happen, but the burden of proof is on Shady, Rutgers fans, and people who consistently post this stuff here

I'm more of a NJ high school football fan then a Rutgers fan. The difference I see here though is that Rutgers has always went on the cheap when hiring assistants. This is the first time they are stepping up to the plate and bringing in a BIG level staff. Schiano is a really good recruiter but is now surrounding himself with other great recruiters/coaches. Who knows what that will add up to in a few years but they are putting themselves in a position to bring in some top talent.

 

[PhatOrange]

I'm more of a NJ high school football fan then a Rutgers fan. The difference I see here though is that Rutgers has always went on the cheap when hiring assistants. This is the first time they are stepping up to the plate and bringing in a BIG level staff. Schiano is a really good recruiter but is now surrounding himself with other great recruiters/coaches. Who knows what that will add up to in a few years but they are putting themselves in a position to bring in some top talent.

big level staff or just paying more?

 

[sutomcat]

Turned down Boston College offer to take job at Rutgers. Has major recruiting contacts in North Jersey. Rutgers will be recruiting at a high level very soon...

Props to Schiano for bilking NJ taxpayers once again. He got a nice budget. But I think he failed to put together a good staff.

He has a DC from a G5 school (Temple).
He has an OL coach from Princeton.
He has another OL coach from a high school with no college coaching experience.
He has a WR coach with a year of college coaching experience at Lafayette.
He has a assistant from one of the worst coaching staffs in history, coaching God knows what (Nunzio).
He then did a huge favor for Oklahoma State by taking a bad hire off their hands.

Oklahoma State stats

2018 (pre Gleason)
PPG 38.38
Rushing Yards/Game 190.3
Passing Yards/Game 309.85
65 touchdowns

2019 (post Gleason)
PPG 32.46
Rushing Yards/Game 229.6
Passing Yards/Game 224.31
52 touchdowns

Surely these guys will get a few naive kids from NJ to sign on the dotted line but Michigan, Penn State and the rest of the Big Ten has set up shop in NJ and nothing is going to change that. If Schiano and company can get to 6-6 some year, it will be an amazing achievement.

 

[Chip]

And Rocky Long as his DC...

You have to admit, it would be really funny if Rocky Long flew to Syracuse to interview with Dino Babers about the Baylor DC job.

I know I'd laugh.

 

[bnoro]

I'm more of a NJ high school football fan then a Rutgers fan. The difference I see here though is that Rutgers has always went on the cheap when hiring assistants. This is the first time they are stepping up to the plate and bringing in a BIG level staff. Schiano is a really good recruiter but is now surrounding himself with other great recruiters/coaches. Who knows what that will add up to in a few years but they are putting themselves in a position to bring in some top talent.

How is hiring an NJ HS coach a "BIG level staff" move? That's a Big East move. Paying them more money doesn't make them a better coach...

 

[HtownOrange]

I'm more of a NJ high school football fan then a Rutgers fan. The difference I see here though is that Rutgers has always went on the cheap when hiring assistants. This is the first time they are stepping up to the plate and bringing in a BIG level staff. Schiano is a really good recruiter but is now surrounding himself with other great recruiters/coaches. Who knows what that will add up to in a few years but they are putting themselves in a position to bring in some top talent.

Assuming that the hires are what you say they are and not as SUTomCat as analyzed:

How does your theory match up against the Big 10 East?

Describe other schools where this approach was successful?

Assuming the plan works, how does Rutgers keep up the shell game? They have run in the red for decades, they loose at least $25MM/annually and though they may be making more in the B1G, they certainly have failed to improve facilities, programs and overall competitiveness.

Do the NJ taxpayers ever get refunded bu Rutgers?

Do the Rutgers students ever get the AD program off the Student fees dole?

Does the Rutgers General Fund and Bank ever get to stop lending to the AD?

Does Rutgers ever run in the black without any of the above?

Schiano may have had a good idea, but he is certainly overpaying for this staff. Even if they are worth it five years from now, this staff as a whole is not a P5 staff.

 

[Whitey23]

made $1.5m a year at Ole Miss before Kiffin made a change.

 

[NJCuse97]

How is hiring an NJ HS coach a "BIG level staff" move? That's a Big East move. Paying them more money doesn't make them a better coach...

Agreed, but Michigan did it too, so it is a B1G thing. I believe it was a reason they got R. Gary. I know we were a BE team at the time, but we played Miami, WVU, BC, VT, etc. and did it with the Dazzler. I think that was one reason we got Konrad.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Agreed, but Michigan did it too, so it is a B1G thing. I believe it was a reason they got R. Gary. I know we were a BE team at the time, but we played Miami, WVU, BC, VT, etc. and did it with the Dazzler. I think that was one reason we got Konrad.

It's a state of Florida football thing too. Probably some of these programs think it will help them in recruiting if they hire a HS coach, especially one from the state of the football program who has been successful at the HS level.

 

[SURU]

Props to Schiano for bilking NJ taxpayers once again. He got a nice budget. But I think he failed to put together a good staff.

He has a DC from a G5 school (Temple).
He has an OL coach from Princeton.
He has another OL coach from a high school with no college coaching experience.
He has a WR coach with a year of college coaching experience at Lafayette.
He has a assistant from one of the worst coaching staffs in history, coaching God knows what (Nunzio).
He then did a huge favor for Oklahoma State by taking a bad hire off their hands.

Oklahoma State stats

2018 (pre Gleason)
PPG 38.38
Rushing Yards/Game 190.3
Passing Yards/Game 309.85
65 touchdowns

2019 (post Gleason)
PPG 32.46
Rushing Yards/Game 229.6
Passing Yards/Game 224.31
52 touchdowns

Surely these guys will get a few naive kids from NJ to sign on the dotted line but Michigan, Penn State and the rest of the Big Ten has set up shop in NJ and nothing is going to change that. If Schiano and company can get to 6-6 some year, it will be an amazing achievement.

The Temple guy is a position coach FWIW. RU is announcing Anthony Campinile as DC later today

 

[sutomcat]

The Temple guy is a position coach FWIW. RU is announcing Anthony Campinile as DC later today

Brown has been listed repeatedly as co-DC in the articles I have read.

Example:

Greg Schiano closing in on completing Rutgers coaching staff

Greg Schiano is closing in on completing his second first Rutgers coaching staff by adding Auggie Hoffman, head coach of a NJ high school power.

collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Campanile is a good recruiter but I don't think he is very respected for his coaching acumen. BC's defense in 2018 with loaded with talent and experience and underperformed.

Boston College Eagles: Defense set to reload in 2019

Short on game experience but not on talent, the Boston College Eagles will trot out a lot of new faces on defense in 2019.

chowderandchampions.com

It looks to me as though Schiano is building a staff designed to beat out Temple, UB, BC and UConn for 2nd tier prospects in NJ. They should be able to get some of those players to come to Rutgers. That is probably his best chance for success. Surprised he didn't hire coaches respected for their schemes/coaching knowledge. I guess $7 million wasn't enough for that.

 

[721Comstock]

Somewhere there is a transfer portal to this site that needs a locked door.

... or at least a Jersey barrier.

 

[NJfootball]

Brown has been listed repeatedly as co-DC in the articles I have read.

Example:

Greg Schiano closing in on completing Rutgers coaching staff

Greg Schiano is closing in on completing his second first Rutgers coaching staff by adding Auggie Hoffman, head coach of a NJ high school power.

collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Campanile is a good recruiter but I don't think he is very respected for his coaching acumen. BC's defense in 2018 with loaded with talent and experience and underperformed.

Boston College Eagles: Defense set to reload in 2019

Short on game experience but not on talent, the Boston College Eagles will trot out a lot of new faces on defense in 2019.

chowderandchampions.com

It looks to me as though Schiano is building a staff designed to beat out Temple, UB, BC and UConn for 2nd tier prospects in NJ. They should be able to get some of those players to come to Rutgers. That is probably his best chance for success. Surprised he didn't hire coaches respected for their schemes/coaching knowledge. I guess $7 million wasn't enough for that.

Fran Brown is not the DC or co-DC. He is a good DB coach and the best recruiter in Southern NJ hands down.

Campanile is close to signing with RU as the DC. He turned down BC for same job and Harbaugh is trying hard to keep him at Michigan. Very much respected for his "coaching acumen" as well as recruiting.

Gleeson poached from OK ST and had interest from several P5 programs. Recruited(and landed)multiple 4 star QBs recently.

Bob Fraser coming from New England Patriots to coach LB.

Panagos poached from Minny to coach DL. Very solid NJ/NY and Florida recruiter.

Hoffman very similar to Michigans hire of Partridge a few years back from Paramus Catholic. St Joes has several high level D1 prospects and I bet half wind up at RU because of this hire. He is VERY respected by the North Jersey coaches as well. Hoffman and N Campanile will really help them recruit Northern NJ.

I think you are underestimating the recruiting/coaching abilities of this staff. This staff will be able to recruit against a lot more programs then the ones you mentioned. They won't win them all but will be in it for a lot more high level prospects then you think. Won't be surprised to see a top 40 class from Rutgers in year one on the job...

 

[TheCusian]

Fran Brown is not the DC or co-DC. He is a good DB coach and the best recruiter in Southern NJ hands down.

Campanile is close to signing with RU as the DC. He turned down BC for same job and Harbaugh is trying hard to keep him at Michigan. Very much respected for his "coaching acumen" as well as recruiting.

Gleeson poached from OK ST and had interest from several P5 programs. Recruited(and landed)multiple 4 star QBs recently.

Bob Fraser coming from New England Patriots to coach LB.

Panagos poached from Minny to coach DL. Very solid NJ/NY and Florida recruiter.

Hoffman very similar to Michigans hire of Partridge a few years back from Paramus Catholic. St Joes has several high level D1 prospects and I bet half wind up at RU because of this hire. He is VERY respected by the North Jersey coaches as well. Hoffman and N Campanile will really help them recruit Northern NJ.

I think you are underestimating the recruiting/coaching abilities of this staff. This staff will be able to recruit against a lot more programs then the ones you mentioned. They won't win them all but will be in it for a lot more high level prospects then you think. Won't be surprised to see a top 40 class from Rutgers in year one on the job...

You need both - good recruiting and good coaching. And they have a steeper climb in their own division than we did. Shady is going to need a big win or two in year 1 or 2 or recruiting momentum will dry up really quickly.

Will be interesting to watch.

 

[PhatOrange]

It looks to me as though Schiano is building a staff designed to beat out Temple, UB, BC and UConn for 2nd tier prospects in NJ. They should be able to get some of those players to come to Rutgers. That is probably his best chance for success. Surprised he didn't hire coaches respected for their schemes/coaching knowledge. I guess $7 million wasn't enough for that.

Agreed. To me big time staff isn't hiring a LB coach to be the Defensive Coordinator (who's coordinating experience was as a CoDC for 1 year at BC in 2018), a high school coach, a coach from Princeton, a 1 year nfl quality control coach and the other HS coach who Ash hired.

6 years ago 3 of these guys were coaching in New Jersey high schools. So they have that market cornered. Honestly it looks to me to like he's building a staff to just recruit NJ. I don't really see the national reach of these guys. I have to see it to believe it that he's going to push around PennSt, OSU, UM and Michigan for NJ recruits. (Plus Notre Dame (2), aTm (2), Miami, Stanford all took top 20 kids.

 

[PhatOrange]

Fran Brown is not the DC or co-DC. He is a good DB coach and the best recruiter in Southern NJ hands down.

Campanile is close to signing with RU as the DC. He turned down BC for same job and Harbaugh is trying hard to keep him at Michigan. Very much respected for his "coaching acumen" as well as recruiting.

Gleeson poached from OK ST and had interest from several P5 programs. Recruited(and landed)multiple 4 star QBs recently.

Bob Fraser coming from New England Patriots to coach LB.

Campanile's experience is HS, then Rutgers for WR/TE, then BC with DBs, 1 year as a CoDC, then 1 year coaching Michigan's LB's. He might be a bright up and comer but there's not a lot there to hang the hat on in terms of coordinating a defense in the Big10.

Gleason was at OkState for 1 season. 1 4-Star kid from California signed with Oklahoma State this year. Maybe because of Gleason or maybe because of Gundy and Oklahoma State. Who are the other 'multiple 4 star QBs recently.' ?

Fraser? lol. Schiano's getting a lot of the rutgers band back together. Hope it works out for the NJ taxpayers.

 

[NJfootball]

Assuming that the hires are what you say they are and not as SUTomCat as analyzed:

How does your theory match up against the Big 10 East?

Describe other schools where this approach was successful?

Assuming the plan works, how does Rutgers keep up the shell game? They have run in the red for decades, they loose at least $25MM/annually and though they may be making more in the B1G, they certainly have failed to improve facilities, programs and overall competitiveness.

Do the NJ taxpayers ever get refunded bu Rutgers?

Do the Rutgers students ever get the AD program off the Student fees dole?

Does the Rutgers General Fund and Bank ever get to stop lending to the AD?

Does Rutgers ever run in the black without any of the above?

Schiano may have had a good idea, but he is certainly overpaying for this staff. Even if they are worth it five years from now, this staff as a whole is not a P5 staff.

Rutgers needs the horses to compete in the Big 10(especially the east which is a brutal schedule to play).
Schiano is being very strategic with his hires. If the staff can recruit the way I think they will they will be worth every dollar. Getting Rutgers competitive again(along with the full share BIG money coming soon) should make the Athletic Dept self sufficient...

 

[sutomcat]

Fran Brown is not the DC or co-DC. He is a good DB coach and the best recruiter in Southern NJ hands down.

Campanile is close to signing with RU as the DC. He turned down BC for same job and Harbaugh is trying hard to keep him at Michigan. Very much respected for his "coaching acumen" as well as recruiting.

Gleeson poached from OK ST and had interest from several P5 programs. Recruited(and landed)multiple 4 star QBs recently.

Bob Fraser coming from New England Patriots to coach LB.

Panagos poached from Minny to coach DL. Very solid NJ/NY and Florida recruiter.

Hoffman very similar to Michigans hire of Partridge a few years back from Paramus Catholic. St Joes has several high level D1 prospects and I bet half wind up at RU because of this hire. He is VERY respected by the North Jersey coaches as well. Hoffman and N Campanile will really help them recruit Northern NJ.

I think you are underestimating the recruiting/coaching abilities of this staff. This staff will be able to recruit against a lot more programs then the ones you mentioned. They won't win them all but will be in it for a lot more high level prospects then you think. Won't be surprised to see a top 40 class from Rutgers in year one on the job...

I agree Schiano is focusing on getting a staff of recruiting specialists. I see too much focus on recruiting and not enough on all the other aspects of coaching.

Glad you are excited. Hope to see some fans in the stands when Syracuse plays Rutgers next season.

 

[CuseLegacy]

... or at least a Jersey barrier.

Hey...I actually know what those are. Education by husband while driving down the highway.