ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[tep624]

That's weird, I thought the Pac 12 was looking at Texas State.

I am surprised the Pac 12 hasn't gone after New Mexico St, well yet anyway. They're off on an island in CUSA and would seem like a decent fit with the recent additions.

 

[TexanMark]

That's weird, I thought the Pac 12 was looking at Texas State.

I am surprised the Pac 12 hasn't gone after New Mexico St, well yet anyway. They're off on an island in CUSA and would seem like a decent fit with the recent additions.

Sacramento St is their best play

 

[tep624]

Sacramento St is their best play

Do you mean San Jose St? Sacramento St is a FCS school.

 

[TexanMark]

Do you mean San Jose St? Sacramento St is a FCS school.

No...Sac St. They are the better long term add. I'm not sure they would qualify for the 8th add with the NCAA.

20th biggest TV market only the Kings for pro sports.

They could be the west coast version of UCF.

 

[WoadBlue]

NY native and Syracuse grad Greg Sankey is uniquely evil.


With ever-changing conference lineups, a complicated web of state laws governing NIL and transfer rules that vary by league, many fans, coaches, athletic directors and media members have called for some sense of top-down order in college football. For some, that could possibly come in the form of a "college football commissioner" who could wield power and settle disputes between schools and conferences.

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey is not one of those people.

During an appearance on the Triple Option podcast, Sankey said centralizing power in college football would only be an attempt by the the rest of the sport to catch up with the SEC.

"I've studied it a little bit and I come back to, I don't want to dumb down the Southeastern Conference to be a part of some super league notion with 70 teams that some people speculate would happen," Sankey said. "They want to be us and that's on them to figure it out, not on me to bring myself back to earth."

 

[Stern]

Greg Sankey says the quiet part out loud. Ie, Screw the ACC and Big 12

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SEC commish Greg Sankey on the idea of a CFB commissioner: &quot;I&#39;ve studied it a little bit, and I come back to I don&#39;t want to dumb down the Southeastern Conference to be a part of some super league notion with 70 teams that some people speculate would happen. They want to be us,… <a href="x.com">pic.twitter.com/m972PjgIwQ</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Marcello (@bmarcello) <a href="">October 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[NJneer12]

Cool. I'm done watching SEC and B1G games. I'll hit them the only way I can.

I'll watch ACC games even harder too just because.

 

[CU44SE]

As Iv said for years. Too many pockets to fill in college football. Everyone wants a cut. And if you consolidate the power or a commissioner and create a super league, those pockets stop getting filled. Those people that are getting their pockets filled are never going to allow that to happen.

 

[baggerbob]

NY native and Syracuse grad Greg Sankey is uniquely evil.


With ever-changing conference lineups, a complicated web of state laws governing NIL and transfer rules that vary by league, many fans, coaches, athletic directors and media members have called for some sense of top-down order in college football. For some, that could possibly come in the form of a "college football commissioner" who could wield power and settle disputes between schools and conferences.

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey is not one of those people.

During an appearance on the Triple Option podcast, Sankey said centralizing power in college football would only be an attempt by the the rest of the sport to catch up with the SEC.

"I've studied it a little bit and I come back to, I don't want to dumb down the Southeastern Conference to be a part of some super league notion with 70 teams that some people speculate would happen," Sankey said. "They want to be us and that's on them to figure it out, not on me to bring myself back to earth."

When he and The Big Commissioner, and TV Execs are sitting in front of a congressional committee, he will regret that statement.

 

[javadoc]

Greg Sankey says the quiet part out loud. Ie, Screw the ACC and Big 12

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SEC commish Greg Sankey on the idea of a CFB commissioner: &quot;I&#39;ve studied it a little bit, and I come back to I don&#39;t want to dumb down the Southeastern Conference to be a part of some super league notion with 70 teams that some people speculate would happen. They want to be us,… <a href="x.com">pic.twitter.com/m972PjgIwQ</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Marcello (@bmarcello) <a href="">October 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That is a big part of why I had no interest in watching the Georgia - Alabama game.

 

[WoadBlue]

When he and The Big Commissioner, and TV Execs are sitting in front of a congressional committee, he will regret that statement.

Let's hope so.

 

[WoadBlue]

That is a big part of why I had no interest in watching the Georgia - Alabama game.

I grew up watching as much SEC as possible. Now, except for the wife's Ole Miss, I am like you. Even the biggest SEC games leave me cold because I know that the league is led by mobster wannabes. They are totally ruining collegiate athletics.

And 'they' is also the Big Ten.

 

[Jcuse_44]

That is a big part of why I had no interest in watching the Georgia - Alabama game.

I go out of my way to NOT WATCH SEC and Big10 games. I refuse to add to their revenue.

 

[Jcuse_44]

I still say the SEC and Big 10 are going to eat themselves. If they think they will be able to keep their 2 conferences and shut out the rest of college football, good luck with getting anyone outside of the midwest and the south east to watch your games. Im almost at the point where I want Severud and that crew to form a different college football league with Pac12, conference USA, etc. Hell even throw in the patriot and Ivy League. Id love to shut out everyone from the SEC and Big 10. Just sick of their arrogance.

 

[Atlcuse44]

I hate what the SEC and what the BIG are doing to college football but unfortunately they are holding all the cards. Sankey knows that, hence his arrogance. A Super League does not benefit him or the SEC (or the BIG). He is saying that they don't need the rest of us. If they want, the SEC and BIG can form their own NFL-lite league, and they probably will. You can say you won't watch SEC or BIG games, but plenty of people will and not just people in those geographic footprints. I will watch UGA - Texas, Bama-Tenn, Ohio St- Michigan, USC-Oregon. I will watch those games before I watch NC St - Stanford or TCU- OK St. I am just being honest. Now will I watch Rutgers-Purdue or Miss St-Vandy? No, but I will watch the behemoths battle it out (just like millions of others accross the country. Bama-UGA drew almost 12M viewers). I know this will not be a popular take on this board but I'm just being realistic.

 

[shantydaze]

When I first read Sankey's quote about dumbing down the SEC, I immediately questioned whether most of the SEC's fans (and some of its schools) could be a dumber. When your conference has a reputation of mouth breathing fans and schools with questionable academics, I didn't think using "dumb" was the most appropriate term.

I have noticed that some of my anger about college athletics has turned to apathy. But as a newly minted 50 year old, I am no longer in the demographic advertisers and networks care about and generally will only watch or at least make an effort to watch games in which one of my alma maters in playing.

Despite this. I did end up watching most of the Alabama-Georgia game on Saturday. Not because I wanted to, but because my 18-year old nephew, who is a freshman at Wisconsin, wanted to watch it. We can all complain all we want about the destruction of college football, but if the younger generation does not care and still watches, it will not matter.

 

[sufan59]

I only still go to the restaurant because my favorite item on the menu is still on the menu. But if you take that item off the menu perhaps I will stop going to that restaurant moving forward. The SEC and Big 10 wants to take off way to many popular menu items on their menu because it’s not as popular as their menu items and maybe not bringing as much revenue. However, if you take those popular, but not as popular as your items bringing in the most revenue off the menu, perhaps you will just lose a lot of customers coming to your restaurant that you counted on before since they have no reason to also order your highest revenue menu items since they no longer want to go to the restaurant.

 

[Hoo's That]

I still say the SEC and Big 10 are going to eat themselves. If they think they will be able to keep their 2 conferences and shut out the rest of college football, good luck with getting anyone outside of the midwest and the south east to watch your games. Im almost at the point where I want Severud and that crew to form a different college football league with Pac12, conference USA, etc. Hell even throw in the patriot and Ivy League. Id love to shut out everyone from the SEC and Big 10. Just sick of their arrogance.

But that begs the question, how many non-alumni fans of college football live outside those areas? I'll watch UVa games no matter who they play. You folks will watch SU games no matter who they play. But how many people in Delaware, where I live, will watch those games? Compare that to the number of people in Memphis (to pick a city at random) who will watch an SEC game, or in Des Moines who will watch a B1G game in which they have no rooting interest.

 

[orangecuse]

I hate what the SEC and what the BIG are doing to college football but unfortunately they are holding all the cards. Sankey knows that, hence his arrogance. A Super League does not benefit him or the SEC (or the BIG). He is saying that they don't need the rest of us. If they want, the SEC and BIG can form their own NFL-lite league, and they probably will. You can say you won't watch SEC or BIG games, but plenty of people will and not just people in those geographic footprints. I will watch UGA - Texas, Bama-Tenn, Ohio St- Michigan, USC-Oregon. I will watch those games before I watch NC St - Stanford or TCU- OK St. I am just being honest. Now will I watch Rutgers-Purdue or Miss St-Vandy? No, but I will watch the behemoths battle it out (just like millions of others accross the country. Bama-UGA drew almost 12M viewers). I know this will not be a popular take on this board but I'm just being realistic.

 

[WoadBlue]

But that begs the question, how many non-alumni fans of college football live outside those areas? I'll watch UVa games no matter who they play. You folks will watch SU games no matter who they play. But how many people in Delaware, where I live, will watch those games? Compare that to the number of people in Memphis (to pick a city at random) who will watch an SEC game, or in Des Moines who will watch a B1G game in which they have no rooting interest.

head across the Mississippi from Memphis and you are in AR. Head south from Memphis and you cross into MS in no time. And that is why Memphis always has been filled with Hawg, Rebel, and Bulldog fans in numbers at least as large of Vol fans. Most of those people also back the Memphis Tigers, but they gravitate toward the Major conferences, and that now means just the SEC to them.

All that is why the Sec and BT are doing w3hat they are doing to destroy all other Major conferences.They assume that people will keep moving toward whatever is left standing as Major. And that is what he ACC's 1st order of business is to keep the league while until we ca be on the open market. And to make that work, we must all back ACC football even if that means we cut funding for our own basketball programs.

 

[GHLF]

When he and The Big Commissioner, and TV Execs are sitting in front of a congressional committee, he will regret that statement.

Wow, sounds like me. I used to be so idealistic. I used to talk about when governmental entities would actually intervene and advocate for the student athlete, academic principles, and long-standing institutional associations. I am not a believer in what Congress can do anymore. Collegiate sports are a microcosm of society. We can still certainly dream and act individually appropriate. Much Grace

 

[Jcuse_44]

I only still go to the restaurant because my favorite item on the menu is still on the menu. But if you take that item off the menu perhaps I will stop going to that restaurant moving forward. The SEC and Big 10 wants to take off way to many popular menu items on their menu because it’s not as popular as their menu items and maybe not bringing as much revenue. However, if you take those popular, but not as popular as your items bringing in the most revenue off the menu, perhaps you will just lose a lot of customers coming to your restaurant that you counted on before since they have no reason to also order your highest revenue menu items since they no longer want to go to the restaurant.

 

[Jcuse_44]

I hate what the SEC and what the BIG are doing to college football but unfortunately they are holding all the cards. Sankey knows that, hence his arrogance. A Super League does not benefit him or the SEC (or the BIG). He is saying that they don't need the rest of us. If they want, the SEC and BIG can form their own NFL-lite league, and they probably will. You can say you won't watch SEC or BIG games, but plenty of people will and not just people in those geographic footprints. I will watch UGA - Texas, Bama-Tenn, Ohio St- Michigan, USC-Oregon. I will watch those games before I watch NC St - Stanford or TCU- OK St. I am just being honest. Now will I watch Rutgers-Purdue or Miss St-Vandy? No, but I will watch the behemoths battle it out (just like millions of others accross the country. Bama-UGA drew almost 12M viewers). I know this will not be a popular take on this board but I'm just being realistic.

They aren't holding all the cards at all. Every other conference can refuse to schedule them. Have fun playing each other's conferences SEC and BIG10. We won't lose any viewers taking you off the schedule, but your programs sure as hell won't be happy with the same schedule every year.

 

[DoctorBombay]

I hate what the SEC and what the BIG are doing to college football but unfortunately they are holding all the cards. Sankey knows that, hence his arrogance. A Super League does not benefit him or the SEC (or the BIG). He is saying that they don't need the rest of us. If they want, the SEC and BIG can form their own NFL-lite league, and they probably will. You can say you won't watch SEC or BIG games, but plenty of people will and not just people in those geographic footprints. I will watch UGA - Texas, Bama-Tenn, Ohio St- Michigan, USC-Oregon. I will watch those games before I watch NC St - Stanford or TCU- OK St. I am just being honest. Now will I watch Rutgers-Purdue or Miss St-Vandy? No, but I will watch the behemoths battle it out (just like millions of others accross the country. Bama-UGA drew almost 12M viewers). I know this will not be a popular take on this board but I'm just being realistic.

Said it better than I could.
All due respect, I see alot of whining about not watching anymore SEC/B1G games but if we're being honest, that is what big-time CFB is nowadays. And as someone mentioned, if the younger coveted demographic will watch , then that's all that matters to the networks, and the conferences.
The fact is if you're a fan of college football you'll be watching. Obviously, if you're a fan of Syracuse then you'll also be watching. To get others to watch us, we have to win. And until any of that happens, we're on the outside looking in.
Finally, what I'm experiencing is preemptive apathy towards this sport. I'll watch the 'Cuse, but anything other than that, I'm become apathetic towards it.

 

[WickedOrange]

I just don't think you can take a hard line on 60, 64, 70 or whatever the number of teams is. There should be a mechanism to promote/demote X # or X% of teams every year to the super conference.

Fixed football conferences/divisions based on geography are dead.

Football divisions should have a couple of each tier (Kings, Barons, Knights, Peasants) loosely based on geography.

it's about the match ups for TV

hey FSU, you're a Peasant