ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[qdawgg]

So the latest BiG additions are getting a 50% share through 2030, which is less than a full ACC share? And the Big 12 shares are less than ACC shares? And GOR litigation risk means any move by FSU is a long shot?
Maybe the ACC isn’t a horrible place to be for now while the dust settles.

It really isn’t, considering everything else going on.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[qdawgg]

If I’m the SEC, looking at this map, I’m not sure it’s that crazy a thought combining/merging the ACC and SEC together. Prevents the B10 from eventually getting its claws in its territory. Creates a pretty close geographic footprint.

 

[Cuse'91]

So the latest BiG additions are getting a 50% share through 2030, which is less than a full ACC share? And the Big 12 shares are less than ACC shares? And GOR litigation risk means any move by FSU is a long shot?
Maybe the ACC isn’t a horrible place to be for now while the dust settles.

It's fine for right now. Only problem is we're doing 60mph, straight toward a rock quarry.

 

[NashvilleOrange]

As things look in 2024-25 (as of Aug 4):

ACC	SEC	Big 12	Big 10	Pac 12	American	MWC	CUSA	MAC	Sun Belt	Independent
Boston College	Alabama	Baylor	Illinois	California	East Carolina	Air Force	FIU	Akron	Appalachian State	Army
Clemson	Arkansas	BYU	Indiana	Oregon State	Memphis	Boise State	Jacksonville State	Ball State	Arkansas State	Notre Dame
Duke	Auburn	Cincinnati	Iowa	Stanford	Navy	Colorado State	Kennesaw State	Bowling Green	Coastal Carolina	UConn
Florida State	Florida	Houston	Maryland	Washington State	SMU	Fresno State	Liberty	Buffalo	Georgia Southern	UMass
Georgia Tech	Georgia	Iowa State	Michigan		South Florida	Hawaii	Louisiana Tech	Central Michigan	Georgia State
Louisville	Kentucky	Kansas	Michigan State		Temple	Nevada	Middle Tennessee	Eastern Michigan	Louisiana
Miami (FL)	LSU	Kansas State	Minnesota		Tulane	New Mexico	New Mexico State	Kent State	Louisiana–Monroe
NC State	Mississippi State	Oklahoma State	Nebraska		Tulsa	San Diego State	San Houston State	Miami (OH)	South Alabama
North Carolina	Missouri	TCU	Northwestern		Charlotte	San Jose State	UTEP	Northern Illinois	Texas State
Pittsburgh	Ole Miss	Texas Tech	Ohio State		Florida Atlantic	UNLV	Western Kentucky	Ohio	Troy
Syracuse	South Carolina	UCF	Penn State		North Texas	Utah State		Toledo	Marshall
Virginia	Tennessee	West Virginia	Purdue		Rice	Wyoming		Western Michigan	Old Dominion
Virginia Tech	Texas A&M	Arizona*	Rutgers		UAB				Southern Miss
Wake Forest	Vanderbilt	Arizona State*	Wisconsin		UTSA				James Madison
	Oklahoma*	Colorado*	Washington*
	Texas*	Utah*	Oregon*
			UCLA*
			USC*

So the Big 12 replaced their 2 biggest brands (by a mile) with the Arizona schools and some mid-majors. Twitter has such a short memory - the conference is worse next year, not better.

 

[Cuse'91]

Who's ahead of us for a Big 12 invite in ten years?
1. Louisville
2. Pitt
3. Duke
4. ?

 

[djcon57]

I'd like to take any bets with anyone giving us "college sports is dead" hot take.

Certain schools. No doubt. But college sports as a whole. Nope. They are just consolidating the money.

 

[UpstateSM]

University presidents are prostitutes.

Who charge too price but only do missionary

 

[Willy75]

It's fine for right now. Only problem is we're doing 60mph, straight toward a rock quarry.
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Thirteen years is a long time, which is what was intended. The ACC also has a sub-optimal tv deal, while the schools playing musical chairs have no tv deal.

 

[Chris02M]

This is coming at the ACC like a buzzsaw. It may be delayed to 2036 because of the GOR but the writing is on the wall.

a lot can happen in 13 years

 

[JeremyCuse]

Who's ahead of us for a Big 12 invite in ten years?
1. Louisville
2. Pitt
3. Duke
4. ?

The B12 President has apparently been adamant about establishing a NE corridor of teams. Think SU would be pretty high up the list. Gonna be critical to get the fball program in a good spot these next 4-5 years

 

[Moontan]

FSU should start their own Florida Conference:

• FSU
• USF
• UCF
• FIU
• FAU

They could probably get 40% of the "earnings".

 

[Orangefizz]

Who's ahead of us for a Big 12 invite in ten years?
1. Louisville
2. Pitt
3. Duke
4. ?

Virginia Tech, NC State, Georgia Tech

 

[Chris02M]

If I’m the SEC, looking at this map, I’m not sure it’s that crazy a thought combining/merging the ACC and SEC together. Prevents the B10 from eventually getting its claws in its territory. Creates a pretty close geographic footprint.

that could be an option but espn would have to give the acc portion of the conference a solid bump in money

 

[Cuse'91]

The B12 President has apparently been adamant about establishing a NE corridor of teams. Think SU would be pretty high up the list. Gonna be critical to get the fball program in a good spot these next 4-5 years

I agree that's likely true. Still, makes me nervous seeing these conferences balloon so quickly. Some hard cap on numbers has to exist.

 

[Chris02M]

The B12 President has apparently been adamant about establishing a NE corridor of teams. Think SU would be pretty high up the list. Gonna be critical to get the fball program in a good spot these next 4-5 years

if "the magnificant 7 " of the acc went to SEC and BIG 10 , could also see a merger of the 2 leagues

 

[Chris02M]

I agree that's likely true. Still, makes me nervous seeing these conferences balloon so quickly. Some hard cap on numbers has to exist.

20 to 24 max

 

[qdawgg]

FSU should start their own Florida Conference:

• FSU
• USF
• UCF
• FIU
• FAU

They could probably get 40% of the "earnings".

And maybe even win the conference once in awhile.

 

[qdawgg]

that could be an option but espn would have to give the acc portion of the conference a solid bump in money

I was thinking of all that after writing what I did.

ACC/SEC combine. SEC does to ACC what B10 has done to all newcomers. You’ll only get a certain % until next contract. But the % will still be more overall than what ACC schools are making now and will keep schools like Clemson, FSU, etc happy until a new contract.

 

[Cuse'91]

Virginia Tech, NC State, Georgia Tech

I was assuming they go B1G/SEC.

 

[orangenauburn]

Is it wrong to assume that the ACC raiding the Big East 20 years ago, inadvertently cut their own throat?

Not that they could foresee Miami and VaTech falling off and doing nothing in conference.

They say Karma always finds it's target, it's just a matter of when and where.

 

[Sbucketball]

The B12 President has apparently been adamant about establishing a NE corridor of teams. Think SU would be pretty high up the list. Gonna be critical to get the fball program in a good spot these next 4-5 years

I think the B12 President is from NY.

Also, he said he wants the B12 to be the best basketball conference.

Seems like a potential option.

 

[UpstateSM]

 

[Cuse'91]

Is it wrong to assume that the ACC raiding the Big East 20 years ago, inadvertently cut their own throat?

Not that they could foresee Miami and VaTech falling off and doing nothing in conference.

They say Karma always finds it's target, it's just a matter of when and where.

Posters have been poo-pooing the Big 12 teams left, but I think they would wipe the field against the ACC, in football AND basketball. We have so many paper cranes, tigers, and other assorted mascots; it's an origami conference.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Cal can get right back in this...