ACC Tournament Hopes

[Capt. Tuttle]

I would think that the Kardashians, having seen a lot of NBA play(ers) up close, may not be up for the quality of basketball being played in the Dome these days. I know I'm not.

I think they are more fans of those who play basketball.

 

[Nicknack]

If Kiyan stays committed to Syracuse with Autry as coach, I suspect Melo would prefer that he be retained for year 3 (and maybe more). I've wondered on this board why Melo would want that but I think the answer was provided in his 45 minute Boardroom Cover Story interview posted elsewhere on here. It appears that Melo coaches Kiyan from the stands and intends to keep doing so. They've developed a number system where Melo can yell out a nunber and Kiyan knows what it means. I don't know that every head coach would be happy with that type of parental individual in-game coaching. But I suspect Autry would have no choice.

So, Melo wants Autry to stay, even though he has shown to be a poor coach, just so Melo can yell out plays for his son from the stands?? I find that really, really hard to believe.

 

[Nicknack]

We beat NC St on Wed, we should be good. If we lose, I think we're toast unless Cal completely craps the bed.

 

[kingtidge]

If Kiyan stays committed to Syracuse with Autry as coach, I suspect Melo would prefer that he be retained for year 3 (and maybe more). I've wondered on this board why Melo would want that but I think the answer was provided in his 45 minute Boardroom Cover Story interview posted elsewhere on here. It appears that Melo coaches Kiyan from the stands and intends to keep doing so. They've developed a number system where Melo can yell out a nunber and Kiyan knows what it means. I don't know that every head coach would be happy with that type of parental individual in-game coaching. But I suspect Autry would have no choice.

I sure hope not.

Last thing we need next year is Melo ghost coaching from the stands in Daddyball2.

Not a chance in hell I'd tune in to watch any games if that is the case. I would venture a guess I wouldn't be alone.

 

[kirbivore]

If SU does in fact miss the ACC tournament, does the Red conversation begin internally?

I'm holding out hope that if SU misses the ACCT it's that Georgia Tech bowl game halftime moment where the influential folks say enough is enough.

 

[FloridaCuse]

So, Melo wants Autry to stay, even though he has shown to be a poor coach, just so Melo can yell out plays for his son from the stands?? I find that really, really hard to believe.

Oh I don't think Melo feels it has to be Autry. But not every other coach is going to be happy with dad coaching from the sidelines during games. He knows he'll be able to do it with Autry.

 

[Nicknack]

Oh I don't think Melo feels it has to be Autry. But not every other coach is going to be happy with dad coaching from the sidelines during games. He knows he'll be able to do it with Autry.

How do we know that Melo will be coaching from the stands? I find this highly doubtful. I can see him giving his son pointers/coaching when in HS but not at a major university in the ACC. It just doesn't make sense to me. Also, nothing is preventing any dad from doing this. Hell, I can yell out numbers to his son too.

 

[FloridaCuse]

How do we know that Melo will be coaching from the stands? I find this highly doubtful. I can see him giving his son pointers/coaching when in HS but not at a major university in the ACC. It just doesn't make sense to me. Also, nothing is preventing any dad from doing this. Hell, I can yell out numbers to his son too.

Because he said he would in the interview.

 

[Nicknack]

Because he said he would in the interview.

Are you talking about the few seconds that he talks about telling his son (during a high school game) to get to a certain spot by calling out a number? Tell me that there is more to it than that to infer he wants Red to remain head coach so he can "coach" from the stands.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Are you talking about the few seconds that he talks about telling his son (during a high school game) to get to a certain spot by calling out a number? Tell me that there is more to it than that to infer he wants Red to remain head coach so he can "coach" from the stands.

Here's why: (and I say this with great respect to you, your opinion and your question) cause otherwise why else in the world would he ever want THIS coaching staff to coach his son who he wants and expects to play in the NBA? It otherwise makes no sense. I started out asking that question in one of these threads (I forgot which one but I can go find it if you'd like). I later thought the answer was in that interview. Now I could say it sarcastically but I haven't come up with, nor seen, another sensible reason why Kiyan is coming to Syracuse. [Please don't take offense from my response. I mean none. I'm just shouting it from the rooftops.]

 

[Zelda Zonk]

I sure hope not.

Last thing we need next year is Melo ghost coaching from the stands in Daddyball2.

Not a chance in hell I'd tune in to watch any games if that is the case. I would venture a guess I wouldn't be alone.

How would that even work? The team is running Play A through (because that's all our guys can remember, per JB), and Melo is calling out different plays for Kiyan? Are we sure Melo wasn't talking about just telling his kid things he can do within the scheme of the game, like, "You gotta move more, be agressive, B-E-Agressive, cut to the open spots, they're giving you the outside shot, don't let the white kid shoot..." stuff like that?

 

[Nicknack]

Here's why: (and I say this with great respect to you, your opinion and your question) cause otherwise why else in the world would he ever want THIS coaching staff to coach his son who he wants and expects to play in the NBA? It otherwise makes no sense. I started out asking that question in one of these threads (I forgot which one but I can go find it if you'd like). I later thought the answer was in that interview. Now I could say it sarcastically but I haven't come up with, nor seen, another sensible reason why Kiyan is coming to Syracuse. [Please don't take offense from my response. I mean none. I'm just shouting it from the rooftops.]

Fair enough. I can understand what you're saying about why in the earth would he want Red coaching his son for the next couple of years to help him get ready for the nba. Maybe Melo feels like he'll handle the stuff around him (breaking down tape, developing him in the summer, etc). I don't know. It's definitely perplexing

 

[FloridaCuse]

Fair enough. I can understand what you're saying about why in the earth would he want Red coaching his son for the next couple of years to help him get ready for the nba. Maybe Melo feels like he'll handle the stuff around him (breaking down tape, developing him in the summer, etc). I don't know. It's definitely perplexing

THANK YOU for your reasoned response. And not taking any of my ranting as being towards you. I appreciate it. The current situation with the program is very aggravating. I think you & I generally are in agreement though maybe not whether Melo will coach Kiyan from the stands during games.

 

[kingtidge]

How would that even work? The team is running Play A through (because that's all our guys can remember, per JB), and Melo is calling out different plays for Kiyan? Are we sure Melo wasn't talking about just telling his kid things he can do within the scheme of the game, like, "You gotta move more, be agressive, B-E-Agressive, cut to the open spots, they're giving you the outside shot, don't let the white kid shoot..." stuff like that?

I don't think it will work, so not sure what Melo is talking about.

 

[Doc5120]

I sure hope not.

Last thing we need next year is Melo ghost coaching from the stands in Daddyball2.

Not a chance in hell I'd tune in to watch any games if that is the case. I would venture a guess I wouldn't be alone.

This literally can't be true. It would take more than Kiyan knowing the number system to run an actual play. Others on the court would have to...

1) Be looking at Melo
2) executing the screens, rolls etc.
3) Ignoring whatever Autry has said to run

This seems entirely too far fetched unless the play is "drive" or "shoot" and no 1 else is involved. I can't imagine this happening with my 6th grade son's team where there are 100 people tops, in the gym, let alone a Division 1 college basketball game.

 

[kingtidge]

This literally can't be true. It would take more than Kiyan knowing the number system to run an actual play. Others on the court would have to...

1) Be looking at Melo
2) executing the screens, rolls etc.
3) Ignoring whatever Autry has said to run

This seems entirely too far fetched unless the play is "drive" or "shoot" and no 1 else is involved. I can't imagine this happening with my 6th grade son's team where there are 100 people tops, in the gym, let alone a Division 1 college basketball game.

Yeah, I don't know what to expect but color me concerned.

We're not exactly a case study in program best practices management.

 

[Nicknack]

How would that even work? The team is running Play A through (because that's all our guys can remember, per JB), and Melo is calling out different plays for Kiyan? Are we sure Melo wasn't talking about just telling his kid things he can do within the scheme of the game, like, "You gotta move more, be agressive, B-E-Agressive, cut to the open spots, they're giving you the outside shot, don't let the white kid shoot..." stuff like that?

It wouldn't, that was my earlier response to someone else making the leap that he wants Autry in charge so he can coach from the stands.

This literally can't be true. It would take more than Kiyan knowing the number system to run an actual play. Others on the court would have to...

1) Be looking at Melo
2) executing the screens, rolls etc.
3) Ignoring whatever Autry has said to run

This seems entirely too far fetched unless the play is "drive" or "shoot" and no 1 else is involved. I can't imagine this happening with my 6th grade son's team where there are 100 people tops, in the gym, let alone a Division 1 college basketball game.

Exactly. It can't be true.

If you watch the video, it's literally 6-7 seconds where Melo mentions that he sometimes calls out a number to his son, having to do with getting to a certain spot. I'm sure Melo knows VERY well that he can't disrupt the overall coaching scheme by Autry or any coach for that matter.

 

[Nicknack]

Well, last night's win pretty much solidified us getting in (thanks to the tiebreakers against nc state, bc college and cal). The only way we don't get in is if nc state or bc wins their last 3 and we lose our last 3. Even if nc state or bc does what they need, Cal would also need to win 2 of their last 3. Therefore, I'd give us a 95% chance we're in the acc tourney.

 

[kirbivore]

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Well, last night's win pretty much solidified us getting in (thanks to the tiebreakers against nc state, bc college and cal). The only way we don't get in is if nc state or bc wins their last 3 and we lose our last 3. Even if nc state or bc does what they need, Cal would also need to win 2 of their last 3. Therefore, I'd give us a 95% chance we're in the acc tourney.

If SU is the #15/#10 seed the game Tuesday March 11 is 4:30. If the #14/#11 seed 7:00. If #12/#13 its 2:00.

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[BBQuse]

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Well, last night's win pretty much solidified us getting in (thanks to the tiebreakers against nc state, bc college and cal). The only way we don't get in is if nc state or bc wins their last 3 and we lose our last 3. Even if nc state or bc does what they need, Cal would also need to win 2 of their last 3. Therefore, I'd give us a 95% chance we're in the acc tourney.

What's kind of crazy is that the ACC is so crappy that if we happen to win out (and calm down, I'm not even remotely saying we will, though it's not totally crazy), we could finish in the top half of the league -- as high as 8th if my calculations are correct.

 

[RF2044]

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Well, last night's win pretty much solidified us getting in (thanks to the tiebreakers against nc state, bc college and cal). The only way we don't get in is if nc state or bc wins their last 3 and we lose our last 3. Even if nc state or bc does what they need, Cal would also need to win 2 of their last 3. Therefore, I'd give us a 95% chance we're in the acc tourney.

Ugh... this post makes me ill, to think about not just where we are in the standings, but that we desperately needed a win over the 2nd worst team in the conference just to barely squeak into the ACCT.

Sorry state of affairs.

Also interesting to note that all of our paltry ACC win total was heavily bolstered by playing a high volume of games against the dregs of the conference, many of which are just below us in the standings.

With a favorably weak schedule in that regard, in a year when the entire ACC is down [outside of Duke], we still only managed 6 conference wins.

 

[MSOrange]

Ugh... this post makes me ill, to think about not just where we are in the standings, but that we desperately needed a win over the 2nd worst team in the conference just to barely squeak into the ACCT.

Sorry state of affairs.

Also interesting to note that all of our paltry ACC win total was heavily bolstered by playing a high volume of games against the dregs of the conference, many of which are just below us in the standings.

With a favorably weak schedule in that regard, in a year when the entire ACC is down [outside of Duke], we still only managed 6 conference wins.

When the ACC first expanded and added those 3 games on Tuesday, I always thought wow that would be embarrassing to ever have to play in an empty arena those days. Now we're struggling to even get to that point. Sickening.

 

[Nicknack]

Ugh... this post makes me ill, to think about not just where we are in the standings, but that we desperately needed a win over the 2nd worst team in the conference just to barely squeak into the ACCT.

Sorry state of affairs.

Also interesting to note that all of our paltry ACC win total was heavily bolstered by playing a high volume of games against the dregs of the conference, many of which are just below us in the standings.

With a favorably weak schedule in that regard, in a year when the entire ACC is down [outside of Duke], we still only managed 6 conference wins.

Glad to do my part

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[miamicuse]

Hooray! Sweet fifteen!!!