Alex Kline

[IthaCuse]

There we go, the beloved NIL excuse.

We had plenty of money to assemble a roster for this season. You can speak to the challenges of the future, that’s fine. But we had the dough this year.

This is why I have such contempt for the level of knowledge of the "board insiders". There is actually zero evidence that this is true, yet it is accepted as a statement of fact around here because people who were fed lines from people inside the program repeated what they were told. Here is the reality: Our portal class was ranked 7th in the ACC and 36th overall. There are roughly 70 P4 teams, meaning our portal class was roughly middle of the pack. We returned two players and brought in zero freshmen who were expected to make an immediate impact. That indicates a level of NIL funding which is below that of the average peer.

Again, I totally understand why you would want to believe this. Red has taken teams that should be in the 20-24 win range and turned in seasons with 5-10 wins below that. Saying NIL is not currently sufficient to compete at the top level is NOT AN EXCUSE for how Red has objectively underperformed with this roster. However, the simple reality is that we did NOT have the NIL funding this year to compete at the level that Syracuse basketball fans have become accustomed to competing at.

But please, continue to buy false narratives that are planted intentionally prior to the season to try to convince you to support a sinking ship. That has clearly worked out great so far.

 

[althea]

You are comparing our end of season NET last year to our current NET as we are positioned to lose at LEAST 4 of our final 6 games. By the time the season ends the NET ranking will be closer to 90. Which is exactly what I have said: Marginal improvement.

FWIW. We are not going to drop 40 spots if we lose to Duke, North Carolina, etc.

You are not going to do well on this site attacking the board "insiders". There are people that post here that have knowledge of what is happening within the athletic department that you and I don't have. You would be wise to listen to them.

 

[Scooch]

This is why I have such contempt for the level of knowledge of the "board insiders". There is actually zero evidence that this is true, yet it is accepted as a statement of fact around here because people who were fed lines from people inside the program repeated what they were told. Here is the reality: Our portal class was ranked 7th in the ACC and 36th overall. There are roughly 70 P4 teams, meaning our portal class was roughly middle of the pack. We returned two players and brought in zero freshmen who were expected to make an immediate impact. That indicates a level of NIL funding which is below that of the average peer.

Again, I totally understand why you would want to believe this. Red has taken teams that should be in the 20-24 win range and turned in seasons with 5-10 wins below that. Saying NIL is not currently sufficient to compete at the top level is NOT AN EXCUSE for how Red has objectively underperformed with this roster. However, the simple reality is that we did NOT have the NIL funding this year to compete at the level that Syracuse basketball fans have become accustomed to competing at.

But please, continue to buy false narratives that are planted intentionally prior to the season to try to convince you to support a sinking ship. That has clearly worked out great so far.

It’s been reported publicly what our NIL spending was this season. Do you know what it was?

 

[orange79]

This is why I have such contempt for the level of knowledge of the "board insiders". There is actually zero evidence that this is true, yet it is accepted as a statement of fact around here because people who were fed lines from people inside the program repeated what they were told. Here is the reality: Our portal class was ranked 7th in the ACC and 36th overall. There are roughly 70 P4 teams, meaning our portal class was roughly middle of the pack. We returned two players and brought in zero freshmen who were expected to make an immediate impact. That indicates a level of NIL funding which is below that of the average peer.

Again, I totally understand why you would want to believe this. Red has taken teams that should be in the 20-24 win range and turned in seasons with 5-10 wins below that. Saying NIL is not currently sufficient to compete at the top level is NOT AN EXCUSE for how Red has objectively underperformed with this roster. However, the simple reality is that we did NOT have the NIL funding this year to compete at the level that Syracuse basketball fans have become accustomed to competing at.

But please, continue to buy false narratives that are planted intentionally prior to the season to try to convince you to support a sinking ship. That has clearly worked out great so far.

Settle down.

If you don't want to believe the insiders, fine. Put them on ignore. But they are right more often than they are wrong. Much more often.

What would you like for "evidence"? Red to provide you a balance sheet of NIL expenditures?

Believe what you want. But knock it off with the attitude toward other posters. We're having a discussion here, not a fight out behind the bar.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

This is why I have such contempt for the level of knowledge of the "board insiders".

Yeah I prefer listening to the people on the board that are upfront about their sources being imaginary.

 

[RedtheGOB]

This is why I have such contempt for the level of knowledge of the "board insiders". There is actually zero evidence that this is true, yet it is accepted as a statement of fact around here because people who were fed lines from people inside the program repeated what they were told. Here is the reality: Our portal class was ranked 7th in the ACC and 36th overall. There are roughly 70 P4 teams, meaning our portal class was roughly middle of the pack. We returned two players and brought in zero freshmen who were expected to make an immediate impact. That indicates a level of NIL funding which is below that of the average peer.

Again, I totally understand why you would want to believe this. Red has taken teams that should be in the 20-24 win range and turned in seasons with 5-10 wins below that. Saying NIL is not currently sufficient to compete at the top level is NOT AN EXCUSE for how Red has objectively underperformed with this roster. However, the simple reality is that we did NOT have the NIL funding this year to compete at the level that Syracuse basketball fans have become accustomed to competing at.

But please, continue to buy false narratives that are planted intentionally prior to the season to try to convince you to support a sinking ship. That has clearly worked out great so far.

I agree 100% with you. I Argued it all morning with a dude on another thread.

Simply put I said who cares about the last ten years. This offseason for a new HC, staff, and roster will we spend as much as UVA who is a clear 5th in the ACC in spending?

He dodged and deflected for 10 posts before admitting we would not.

The guy from the athletic said we were a clear 3rd tier in NIL in the ACC. That buys us a tourney resume to just get in. That does not buy rankings or even sweet 16’s a lot of this fanbase expects.

We need much better coaches and much better players to be a true contender because right now we’re spending to be an 8-11 seed in the tournament.

I posted the interview from the guy from the athletic in the other thread. Someone that actually knows what’s happening outside of CNY.

* I trust the insiders here immensely for local info and they are right a lot. Where we line up in the pecking order across D1 overall I think they may not be as informed as people that report on college sports for a living.