Buddy suspended for Duke

[JeremyCuse]

5 minutes from now:

BC upsets Wake.

"Why did the ACC vote for expansion again?"

BC will blow it...

 

[SuFTW]

Spit-balling: The apology was requested by the ACC and will allow Buddy to play tomorrow (and hopefully beyond). That said, what they should do is fine Buddy and tap into some of his NIL cash.

I think the bad PR necessitated the apology. Damage control.

 

[CuseCPT]

The punch reminded me a little of the hit Private Joker takes from Gunny Hartman in FMJ. Nice little pop right in the solar plexus. Definitely can take the wind out of your sails for a minute.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

The punch reminded me a little of the hit Private Joker takes from Gunny Hartman in FMJ. Nice little pop right in the solar plexus. Definitely can take the wind out of your sails for a minute.

We owe the ACC for one jelly donut.

 

[sufandu]

Buddy got away with a punch to the gut of an FSU player

Was he smiling when he did it? I may have heard a time or two this year from a commentator that Buddy is always smiling and happy.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Wow ...

Bad play.

 

[oTTo113445]

flagrant one and twos belong in the game your in not the next game, because of 2 duke announcers.

 

[CuseCPT]

We owe the ACC for one jelly donut.

I know who would be hiding jelly donuts in their footlocker, but those jokes are off limits

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Flop by BC if you ask me. If any1 is watching

 

[dasher]

Flop by BC if you ask me. If any1 is watching

He pushed off with his arm. That is a o foul 100% of the time.

 

[tptcuse]

BC dude's head hit the floor. He wasn't fouled.

 

[Longtimesu]

The punch reminded me a little of the hit Private Joker takes from Gunny Hartman in FMJ. Nice little pop right in the solar plexus. Definitely can take the wind out of your sails for a minute.

I've been around boxing for many years. At 74 I still work the heavy bag. Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano had 6-inch knock-out punches. Their 6 inch punches to the solar plexus crippled in pain many opponents. Buddy's 6-inch weak punch, even though should not have been thrown, did not cripple that player. It was a belly-flop in acting.

 

[UpstateSM]

I can’t believe it took the lawyers so long to write that statement

 

[Cuse_NYC]

He pushed off with his arm. That is a o foul 100% of the time.

Looked like guy went down in front of him first then arm went out. But, wilke’s shove was worse than buddy’s retaliation to me

 

[dollarbill44]

explain the difference of a rabbit punch and a kid boxing out who tosses an elbow or hits a guy in the back with forearm to clear space and that happens 20 times a game.

Intent.

 

[xc84]

The setup:

 

[Sherman20]

It was a heat of the moment reaction from Buddy and totally out of character. It’s really hard to figure out a player’s intent from a fast, bang-bang play like that. I don’t think he should be suspended. It’s actually kind of absurd that it’s getting all this traction.

 

[xc84]

Wyatt Wilkes is the basketball equivalent of Mitch Stanitzek

 

[dollarbill44]

I hope that the clearing of the air between the players after the game factors into any decision [if there is one] the conference makes.

And I'd also hope that Buddy's squeaky clean history also factors in. That play was very, very unusual for a happy go lucky kid like he is. Kind of at a loss to understand what prompted him to do that.

But I'd be surprised to see him get off scot free. Suspended for a half?

Fine him $10k and move on.

 

[tptcuse]

Fine him $10k and move on.

He's a poor college kid.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

“Boeheim appears to strike Wilkes” is on ESPN’s bottomline. U kidding me?

 

[Zelda Zonk]

When i saw it during the game, i thought: dirty body check by the FlaSt dude, and a Barkley-esque retaliation from Buddy, which i didn't hate him for, but thought it should have been called a flagrant 2 during the game. Because they missed it, we're going to pay for it tomorrow. If they had caught it during the game, he probably gets ejected, and we win by 20.

I'm surprised it wasn't reviewed/found during a review, as the kid did go down and it was pretty obvious. I wonder if the FlaSt kid didn't make a bigger deal of it, because he knew he deserved it...

Seems to have been totally out of character from Buddy, but we don't know. Maybe he's got a closet full of Barbie heads, because "Sometimes i get mad."

It chafes me, though, that JAB said it was "inadvertent." Did he walk that back yet? That's bad. Stupid. It's like, JAB: "Who you gonna believe? Me, or your own lyin' eyes?"

 

[DilemaCuse]

“Boeheim appears to strike Wilkes” is on ESPN’s bottomline. U kidding me?

All Press is good Press, right?

Can this help with recruiting? lol

 

[DilemaCuse]

It chafes me, though, that JAB said it was "inadvertent." Did he walk that back yet? That's bad. Stupid. It's like, JAB: "Who you gonna believe? Me, or your own lyin' eyes?"

How does someone not coach him up before the presser so he doesnt make an a$$ out of himself

 

[pfister1]

What might help Buddy's cause is that the refs didn't call a foul, a technical nor an ejection on Buddy. However, in the rule book it does say that the conference can look at a suspension afterwards for a fight. Flagrant 2 is mentioned 163 times in the rule book, trip is mentioned 4 times, suspension is mentioned eight times but punch isn't mentioned at all. The definition of a flagrant 2 is on page 48.

Page 106: The following apply to situations in which a fight has been reported by an official during his jurisdiction. When a fight is not reported by an official, the conference or assigning authority may invoke its own penalty. For the rules on suspensions for fighting. (See Rule 10-5)

Page 48: 2. Flagrant 2 personal foul. A flagrant 2 personal foul is a personal foul that involves contact with an opponent that is not only excessive, but also severe (brutal, harsh, cruel) or extreme (dangerous, punishing),while the ball is live. In determining whether a foul has risen to the level of a flagrant 2, officials should consider the following: a) The severity of the contact; b) Whether a player is making a legitimate effort to block a shot. Note that a player may still be assessed a flagrant 2 foul on an attempted blocked shot when there are other factors, such as hard contact to the head or the defender winding up or emphatically following through with the contact. Depending on the nature of the contact, or the result of the contact, this foul also could be considered a flagrant 1 or common personal foul; c) The potential for injury resulting from the contact (e.g., a blow to the head or a foul committed while the player was in a vulnerable position). Depending on the nature of the contact, or the result of the contact, the foul also could be considered a flagrant 1 or common personal foul; d) Any contact by the offending player to the groin area of an opponent which is not clearly accidental; and e) Any foul similar to the foul described in Rule 4-15.2.c.1.g in which the contact, or the result of the contact, is not only excessive but also severe or extreme. Note: The above acts represent examples of potential flagrant 2 fouls. Other acts may also qualify, if they meet the criteria of being not only excessive but also severe or extreme.

https://a.espncdn.com/sec/media/2021/NCAA%20MBB%20Playing%20Rules%20Book.pdf

Well we know there was no fight. FSU barely looked alive.