Class of 2020 C Eddie Lampkin (TX) TRANSFERRING TO SYRACUSE (4/2/24)

[0.2 YNdeeR]

wow just getting to this thread ... having assumed that this guy was honorable. Instead, it appears that fast Eddie has stabbed us in the back, with an assist from some TCU tamperers. The world of NIL just keeps getting more disgusting by the month, doesn't it? Clearly the inmates are running the asylum - greedy boosters and state legislators who care more about their egos than their constituents. They tout NIL with a wink, because they know that the brand is and always has been with the universities ... many of which have been around for a century or longer. Take the jersey off the "student athlete" and what's the value? In most cases zero. Isn't it time to face the truth - that NIL is a false justification for pay-for-play, perpetrated under cover of a lie that the NCAA is making billions (it only makes money off the tournament and returns most of it to the member schools). Without rules or integrity, there is no "market", just ...

... an endless and uncontrollable grift that is destroying major college sports.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

But SU has to meet it. Don’t you get that ? This is a failure of the program

Sounds like even if we went up to 750K there would be no guarantee.

 

[Chip]

I find college hoops to be less interesting each year. There was too much turnover even before this new wave of instant free agency. The level of play is so much worse than the Big East we grew up on.

I probably watched half our games, and until March Madness, I didn't watch a single moment of a game that didn't involve Syracuse.

This stuff doesn't help. Can't quit SU altogether though. Too much history.

 

[Sdot]

dasher do you have any clue how much NIL we have

 

[JustPherU]

Also this isn’t just a money thing. It’s also a loyalty thing. Eddie was loyal to the most money. When you recruit guys from HS you’re able to build more loyalty. That’s why football is doing better. It’s not just a money thing there.

For example - if Fadil Diggs wanted the most money, he could have left in the spring. Some big time programs came after him with big bags. But he was loyal to E Rob. We’re never going to win in either program if we have to offer the biggest bag.

95% of the time it’s about the money

 

[JeremyCuse]

There clearly has to be a problem. I don’t know what goes on inside the problem but there an are significant issues . Just like Dino not getting any money. If you can’t the money you need to go. That’s the reality of college sports today. Maybe Wildhack should end this sooner then later

SU has money, the narrative that SU is struggling in NIL for bball is false. It's probably in the top 25% in the country. The issue is PG and Centers are highly sought after and SU doesn't have the war chest to pay 8-9+ dudes $750k a pop.

I know people want SU to "match" and come up with the money but until schools can pay directly there's only so much money to tap into especially when bigger donors are already flooding money to the fball program. The fact that Lampkin is getting the same amount a P5 starting QB is should be a tell on how crazy it is out there right now

 

[cliftonparksufan]

I don't blame Wildhack for this. That blame falls on one person who became bigger than the program.

Not an argument, but Wildhack was still his "boss".

 

[dasher]

Not an argument, but Wildhack was still his "boss".

Sort of. And at the end of the day, he did finally fire him.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Then we should have been loyal to Maliq. That’s where we fckd up. People were so set on having a center and now we have none and don’t have Maliq. It’s a friggin clown show.

We were loyal to Maliq, he didn't want to play the 5 and wanted to test the market. Should Gmac have held him in the Dome by gunpoint not to enter the portal?

 

[Day2]

SU should sue the school that poached Lampkin.

 

[kcsu]

Hard to fault red when the kid signed. I mean what else are we supposed to do? Overpay him just to be scared of that happening?

Everyone needs to understand that Fran is landing most of his kids for reasons other than money. Yes our NIL is solid but it's isn't the primary reason he is landing players

 

[dasher]

Then we should have been loyal to Maliq. That’s where we fckd up. People were so set on having a center and now we have none and don’t have Maliq. It’s a friggin clown show.

That is way too strong. Malik didn't like the role he was in. He didn't want to play the 5. Red did the right thing. It blew up in his face. That happens when you have to make decisions. Some don't work out. The clowns have been run out of town.

 

[bnoro]

But SU has to meet it. Don’t you get that ? This is a failure of the program

Where does it end? The system is so broken that a kid could just drive his NIL price up by consistently shopping around for a bigger bag and there's literally no way to stop it.

 

[Bulldog04]

The really terrible part here and why you should feel for red and the entire team. Red made all of his decisions based off Lampkin being a focal point for next year. From how they run the offense to some sets and style of play and he learned a lot from this year. This completely goes out the window and to have this kid walk away after all those decisions were made based on Him, that’s lousy I’m sorry. This new age world sucks

 

[CuseFTW]

Have you given 100k? He closed with Freeman. The highest rated recruit since Melo. That is closing, isn't it?

So he is batting .100 and at this rate Freeman is probably hitting the portal after next season anyways. If he was allowed to he would probably transfer now knowing how abysmal our team will be

 

[dasher]

Everyone needs to understand that Fran is landing most of his kids for reasons other than money. Yes our NIL is solid but it's isn't the primary reason he is landing players

We aren't short money with Fran. He has enough to compete. Without the money, Fran wouldn't be getting the kids he is getting. And the future kids he is landing, he doesn't have to pony up any of that money now.

 

[dasher]

So he is batting .100 and at this rate Freeman is probably hitting the portal after next season anyways. If he was allowed to he would probably transfer now knowing how abysmal our team will be

Batting .100 ? Congrats. You have been here a week or so and I already have you on ignore.

 

[TommyA13]

TCU bound?

 

[dasher]

Where does it end? The system is so broken that a kid could just drive his NIL price up by consistently shopping around for a bigger bag and there's literally no way to stop it.

Anglerman thinks you just keep matching the price. Whether you have the money or not. Of course, guys on your own team learn of this and they want a bigger bag or they will leave. Hmm what to do what to do.

 

[Trueblue25]

We did not offer a insultingly low offer. He asked for a ridiculously high offer. One he knew we couldn't accept. This was a farce as it turned out. He was St John's all the way. They just didn't want it to be said that Pitino offered before he was allowed to. One big show. I don't know that we are cooked. We now have quite a bit of loose money to offer. Lampkins money. I don't know yet where we turn. And while we might indeed be cooked, the cake is yet to be baked. I just hope no one leaves it out in the rain.

Well, it appears he saves the hustle for the deal room that he never used on the court

 

[JustPherU]

The really terrible part here and why you should feel for red and the entire team. Red made all of his decisions based off Lampkin being a focal point for next year. From how they run the offense to some sets and style of play and he learned a lot from this year. This completely goes out the window and to have this kid walk away after all those decisions were made based on Him, that’s lousy I’m sorry. This new age world sucks

That’s why I say you have to keep Lampkin no matter the cost at this point.You’re going to have to over pay him but it is what it is.

 

[Trueblue25]

Just got in from playing 18….hat is going on!!

On the bright side… good weather for the links

 

[albanycuse]

SU has money, the narrative that SU is struggling in NIL for bball is false. It's probably in the top 25% in the country. The issue is PG and Centers are highly sought after and SU doesn't have the war chest to pay 8-9+ dudes $750k a pop.

I know people want SU to "match" and come up with the money but until schools can pay directly there's only so much money to tap into especially when bigger donors are already flooding money to the fball program. The fact that Lampkin is getting the same amount a P5 starting QB is should be a tell on how crazy it is out there right now

Yup i never believed the lack of NIL money for bball was holding us back when it isn’t even true. The issue is deeper on how and who they choose to spend it on.

 

[dasher]

dasher do you have any clue how much NIL we have

I actually do. it isn't that we are a small fry. Just not big enough against a number of schools.

 

[sufan59]

That’s why I say you have to keep Lampkin no matter the cost at this point.You’re going to have to over pay him but it is what it is.

How much more though without damaging the locker room