Chip West now hired by Wake Forest

[kcsu]

Will absolutely lose it to an irrational extent if we get 7+ wins next year and Dino fields external offers. He’s been given so much slack and opportunity here

And we have a winner. I have said from the get that Dino will leave the first chance he gets. He was out the door the Eric year, but the cards didn't fall for him. So, he cashed a sweet deal here. My two cents. Dino gets six or more next year and he takes any offer he can. Like the Ville guy to Cincy. I think JW and the staff know this as well. Pure speculation but I can very much see him either leaving or being let go what I don't see is him having a good year and staying. If he gets an offer, I'm betting he is gone.

 

[CanadianSU]

he gone after next year

 

[IthacaMatt]

What are you talking about?

Despite all that has been written or said about "family" you manage to pull this nonsense out of your backside.

Well, we lost 4 out of 10 assistants this offseason, 4 new assistants last season (plus one change positions), and out of 10 assistant coaches in 2020, Mike Lynch is the only one left.

That happens everywhere? I don't remember so much turnover here myself. You may think the question unkind, but I assure you, I'm not pulling it out of my butt.

 

[IthacaMatt]

And we have a winner. I have said from the get that Dino will leave the first chance he gets. He was out the door the Eric year, but the cards didn't fall for him. So, he cashed a sweet deal here. My two cents. Dino gets six or more next year and he takes any offer he can. Like the Ville guy to Cincy. I think JW and the staff know this as well. Pure speculation but I can very much see him either leaving or being let go what I don't see is him having a good year and staying. If he gets an offer, I'm betting he is gone.

That's very sad if true.

 

[kcsu]

That's very sad if true.

Its speculation for sure but it is a scenario that I can see actually working for both parties. Dino saves face by moving on and JW gets to bring in a great coach and staff. Who knows maybe Long becomes Head coach for a few years with Beck as coach in waiting. Either way i actually hope now that Nick and White are gone that we do move in a new direction. Dino is a good CEO, but he isn't a great coach his gift has been his ability to connect with the kids and that will be missed. OR this is a bunch of Doug M Baloney and Dino is here to the end of his career. Time will tell and again this is just a scenario.

 

[rrlbees]

Will absolutely lose it to an irrational extent if we get 7+ wins next year and Dino fields external offers. He’s been given so much slack and opportunity here

You don’t have to worry about it. The only reason he would leave is because of fans that have a death wish and relish the negative.

 

[kcsu]

You don’t have to worry about it. The only reason he would leave is because of fans that have a death wish and relish the negative.

I dont think that is true either. Hopefully Dino repays the amount of time and resources he has been given by JW. Highest paid person in the history of Syracuse University and only two winning seasons. More resources than any other coach.

 

[tptcuse]

You don’t have to worry about it. The only reason he would leave is because of fans that have a death wish and relish the negative.

Death wish?

 

[007]

And we have a winner. I have said from the get that Dino will leave the first chance he gets. He was out the door the Eric year, but the cards didn't fall for him. So, he cashed a sweet deal here. My two cents. Dino gets six or more next year and he takes any offer he can. Like the Ville guy to Cincy. I think JW and the staff know this as well. Pure speculation but I can very much see him either leaving or being let go what I don't see is him having a good year and staying. If he gets an offer, I'm betting he is gone.

You've been saying this from the get go? Maybe I am misremembering, but aren't you the poster who stated multiple times during the 2021 season that Dino was simply going through the motions; was only interested in "cashing checks" and wasn't vested in the program or putting in the work?

Now you feel that Dino "will leave the first chance he gets." You double down on that position with "and he takes any offer he can."

I'm not sure if it's intentional or, to be fair, accurate. But this stuff sounds like you have an issue with Dino's integrity. Has he ever done anything tangible to support your position apart from what you are theorizing in your head?

 

[rrlbees]

Death wish?

Death of the program because some find a reason to complain about everything.

 

[rrlbees]

You've been saying this from the get go? Maybe I am misremembering, but aren't you the poster who stated multiple times during the 2021 season that Dino was simply going through the motions; was only interested in "cashing checks" and wasn't vested in the program or putting in the work?

Now you feel that Dino "will leave the first chance he gets." You double down on that position with "and he takes any offer he can."

I'm not sure if it's intentional or, to be fair, accurate. But this stuff sounds like you have an issue with Dino's integrity. Has he ever done anything tangible to support your position apart from what you are theorizing in your head?

As I pointed out a week or so ago he likes to play both sides of the fence.

 

[GoSU96]

Or that there are some terrible vibes working for Dino. He and Anae clearly didn't get along. But I'm kind of shocked to see all these guys making lateral moves. I mean, Monroe was the DC in waiting. I don't understand, unless Dino is a bad boss to work for.

Monroe has been here forever, he’s just figuring that out now? And he turned down multiple prior offers, what’s up with that?

more conclusion jumping on your part

 

[kcsu]

You've been saying this from the get go? Maybe I am misremembering, but aren't you the poster who stated multiple times during the 2021 season that Dino was simply going through the motions; was only interested in "cashing checks" and wasn't vested in the program or putting in the work?

Now you feel that Dino "will leave the first chance he gets." You double down on that position with "and he takes any offer heI

I don't have any issue with his integrity. I'm actually on record as saying that his Faith Family and Football is spot on with my beliefs and how I manage my business and my life. I think he is a very good leader of young men and a great face of the program. TO BE CLEAR I DONT WANT HIM TO LEAVE. What I want is for him to buy into the community and give SU all ties if it comes down to staying or taking another offer. Because SU deserves that. I'm not sure if a person who has moved so much their entire lives can do that. Forget the West Coast thing some people need to move, and I believe that Dino is one of them. Nick left for home, why wouldn't Dino. Most people would. My point is simple and that is that if he gets another offer to a comparable job, I believe he will leave. Its who he is. Look at his career. My problem with it is that he has been given more chances than anyone at his level and i don't think that he is going to be repay the support. I don't necessarily blame him. I'm just stating an opinion. But again, Integrity I have never questioned. Others have but not me. My bet is he is gone one way or the other.

 

[David321]

 

[SuFTW]

And we have a winner. I have said from the get that Dino will leave the first chance he gets. He was out the door the Eric year, but the cards didn't fall for him. So, he cashed a sweet deal here. My two cents. Dino gets six or more next year and he takes any offer he can. Like the Ville guy to Cincy. I think JW and the staff know this as well. Pure speculation but I can very much see him either leaving or being let go what I don't see is him having a good year and staying. If he gets an offer, I'm betting he is gone.

Not a winner. Dino is not going to get any P5 offers.

 

[SuFTW]

As I pointed out a week or so ago he likes to play both sides of the fence.

I think there is a strong possibility that two different people post from that account.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

This thread really is wild!

 

[SUMJF]

Death of the program because some find a reason to complain about everything.

The people complaining about basketball medicority you have a good point with.
Our football program has been subpar.
Dino Babers has been given full support unlike Doug Marrone. He hasn’t earned the patience he has been given.
The fact is he has never had consecutive bowl seasons. He needs another bowl season next year. Basketball can turnaround a lot easier but our football program has underachieved under Babers.

Dino hasn’t done a good job. I think what he pledged to bring which was an exciting offense and how he hasn’t found WRs is troubling.
He talked about going for it a lot and being aggressive but he has become conservative. This season was great but again we are losing a lot.

 

[TheCusian]

The people complaining about basketball medicority you have a good point with.
Our football program has been subpar.
Dino Babers has been given full support unlike Doug Marrone. He hasn’t earned the patience he has been given.
The fact is he has never had consecutive bowl seasons. He needs another bowl season next year. Basketball can turnaround a lot easier but our football program has underachieved under Babers.

Dino hasn’t done a good job. I think what he pledged to bring which was an exciting offense and how he hasn’t found WRs is troubling.
He talked about going for it a lot and being aggressive but he has become conservative. This season was great but again we are losing a lot.

This is silly. Here’s how we can tell:

A) would you have given him an extension after 2008

B) if so, when would you have let him go after?

People what harp on his w/l without answering these questions are in a different reality than Wildhack

 

[SUMJF]

This is silly. Here’s how we can tell:

A) would you have given him an extension after 2008

B) if so, when would you have let him go after?

People what harp on his w/l without answering these questions are in a different reality than Wildhack

You can give him an extension but again the extension shouldn’t be signed if the school couldn’t afford to fire him if performance deserved it.
The fact we went from 2019 till this season before another bowl is not acceptable at the P5 level. Dino has been responsible for the roster for a while. No coach had been given what he has and the recruiting has been okay but we haven’t had a upper half WR since Custis in 2018.

The job done from 2019-2021 was terrible. Credit to Wildhack for opening the pocketbook to get Anae last year. Well we have lost Anae, White, Monroe and possibly West and Dino isn’t exactly the best game planner or recruiter. He needs to produce next year or Wildhack should try to upgrade the football coach.

I like Dino’s salesman job as coach but he hasn’t been better than a C as HC.

 

[TheCusian]

You can give him an extension but again the extension shouldn’t be signed if the school couldn’t afford to fire him if performance deserved it.
The fact we went from 2019 till this season before another bowl is not acceptable at the P5 level. Dino has been responsible for the roster for a while. No coach had been given what he has and the recruiting has been okay but we haven’t had a upper half WR since Custis in 2018.

The job done from 2019-2021 was terrible. Credit to Wildhack for opening the pocketbook to get Anae last year. Well we have lost Anae, White, Monroe and possibly West and Dino isn’t exactly the best game planner or recruiter. He needs to produce next year or Wildhack should try to upgrade the football coach.

I like Dino’s salesman job as coach but he hasn’t been better than a C as HC.

I’m not disagreeing about future performance. Or that 2019-2021 was terrible. The point is Dino had a really good year in 2018 and a monster win in 2017 that made the extension an obvious one. Had we not, he might have left and the coaching pool shrinks due to not paying after a good run.

In short, I think Wildhack has played this masterfully.

 

[OburgOrange]

Give me 6 wins.

Sad that this is the ceiling we aspire to.

 

[SUDadx2]

Well, we lost 4 out of 10 assistants this offseason, 4 new assistants last season (plus one change positions), and out of 10 assistant coaches in 2020, Mike Lynch is the only one left.

That happens everywhere? I don't remember so much turnover here myself. You may think the question unkind, but I assure you, I'm not pulling it out of my butt.

IthacaMatt said:
Or that there are some terrible vibes working for Dino. He and Anae clearly didn't get along. But I'm kind of shocked to see all these guys making lateral moves. I mean, Monroe was the DC in waiting. I don't understand, unless Dino is a bad boss to work for.


What you seemingly pulled out of thin air, or stated with no apparent basis was.

1. Dino and Anae clearly didn't get along.
2. Dino is a bad boss to work for.

Is there a basis for either statement? People I've spoken to are not aware of any issues between Dino and Anae. Dino and Gilbert are a different conversation. Listen to the Monroe interview before the bowl game (16:00 minute mark to 17:30) and tell me if this sounds like he thinks "Dino is a bad boss to work for."



By the way, who is the fourth assistant to leave this year? I have Anae, White and Monroe. Who is the fourth? If you're counting West you might want to slow down. He hasn't left yet and he may not.

I don't believe my response, or your original post had anything to do with number of changes among the assistant coaches, but we can have that conversation too if you want. Might be best in a different thread.

For the most part, the changes that have been made in the assistant coach ranks have been upgrades. I can live with the Beck for anae move and certainly respect Anae's desire to be closer to his kids and grandkids in North Carolina. It will be interesting to see who we can get to coach TE's so the jury is still out there. I'm not sure we can get an upgrade on Monroe. So, let me ask this, other than Monroe, which of the assistants who left do you want back?

 

[IthacaMatt]

Monroe has been here forever, he’s just figuring that out now? And he turned down multiple prior offers, what’s up with that?

more conclusion jumping on your part

Only 1 guy left from 2 years ago.

 

[dollarbill44]

Sad that this is the ceiling we aspire to.

I wouldn't take a couple of posters' opinions as the official aspirations of the SU football program.