Coach Search Options after Autry

[Orangefizz]

Wildhack needs to be fired if he gave a 5 year contract to an unproven head coach.We all knew that this might not go well for Red.

I see no possible way wildhack would’ve done that. My guess is a three-year contract for an unproven head coach,but possibly he gave him 4 years

 

[DoctahLexus]

Just please don’t go after gmac. Make a clean break from the old guard. I don’t care about how Sienna is doing

 

[Zelda Zonk]

Red will be here next year due to the recruiting class. However, I’m assuming Grif gets the axe this year.

Next year will be the make or break year for Red. NCAAT or we move in another direction.

This is interesting. The recruits signed on to play for Red, but also for Syracuse. If they also see what we see—poor results, bad execution, mind boggling ‘strategy,’ why wouldn’t they welcome a better coach? They would rescind and go where? To other teams that also recruited them? There isn’t that much of an allegiance to Red, as they wouldn’t just go to the next team that Red is associated with. Suppose Red gets fired after this season (I know the reasons why this isn’t likely, but suppose), and he gets hired to be an assistant somewhere else. White and Anthony aren’t going to follow him unless they still believe in him for some reason and Red gets picked up by a team that thinks he could deliver those players. Longshots, all, no?

I hope Those kids may have been swayed by relationships, but still want to play for SU, in the Dome, for better coach, with a new relationship. I hope. But, it’s likely moot. I’d think it’s more likely for them to rescind if Red is still here.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

We’ve got the perfect candidate about 30 miles from Syracuse

Strongly disagree with Langel if that's where you're going with this. Colgate to Cuse is far too big of a jump if Cuse wants to actually act like a bigtime program. There are other candidates out there that have demonstrated the coaching acumen and recruiting prowess at the P5 level, which are both needed.

 

[Cusefan0307]

It seems that some ITK have been hinting the problem is not football ... it's the school's decision to underfund the basketball program purposely.

I.e. We're now willing float the boat for one (but not both programs) adequately, and we all know where the bread is buttered...

If that's true, then that's something that's not easily remedied with just a new b-ball coach.

It's also likely that top D1 coaching candidates (and their agents) will know about the busing to games, the broken treadmills in melo center, etc.

It's not exactly an enticing job under these circumstances if we're purposely underfunding the program to be less competitive.

There’s other coaches that would have us 9-1 in our current situation. The money situation could be better, but we need to be honest that the coaching has been awful from the defense to the rotation.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

Strongly disagree with Langel if that's where you're going with this. Colgate to Cuse is far too big of a jump if Cuse wants to actually act like a bigtime program. There are other candidates out there that have demonstrated the coaching acumen and recruiting prowess at the P5 level, which are both needed.

Nate Oats came out of Buffalo. Is Buffalo to Alabama a smaller leap?

 

[kingtidge]

There’s other coaches that would have us 9-1 in our current situation. The money situation could be better, but we need to be honest that the coaching has been awful from the defense to the rotation.

Perhaps. But it may be Langel from Colgate or some other mid-major coach w/o P4 experience.

If the rumors are true, we're not getting a big name with p4 experience.

 

[Scott11]

Red will be here next year due to the recruiting class. However, I’m assuming Grif gets the axe this year.

Next year will be the make or break year for Red. NCAAT or we move in another direction.

Why would you think that about Griffin?

 

[Sbucketball]

Langel is a very good coach.

Can he recruit NBA level talent? At Colgate, no. At Syracuse, maybe.

I’m intrigued.

 

[cardiac]

Who should JW realistically look at?

Probably looking hard at mid major HCs is my guess. Too risky to take an assistant and too cheap to lure away a big name coach.

Speedy Claxton, Shaheen Holloway, Matt Langel

 

[Orangefizz]

Strongly disagree with Langel if that's where you're going with this. Colgate to Cuse is far too big of a jump if Cuse wants to actually act like a bigtime program. There are other candidates out there that have demonstrated the coaching acumen and recruiting prowess at the P5 level, which are both needed.

Did you happen to watch Colgate play at Kentucky this week? Even though they were completely outmanned and playing without their starting center, they had a lead in the second half. You can see how they scheme to get their three point shooters open, and they box out every time. We could do far worse than Matt Langel

 

[ar inj]

I will surprised if Red is not the coach next year, but I have no confidence in Wildhack when and if a change is made. He got lucky because somebody not on his radar (or probably anybody's) called and sold him on becoming the next football coach. If you know any good under the radar coaches, please ask them to call Wildhack.

 

[Red2003]

Why would Melo and his wife want Kiyan part of this dumpster fire?
Can't see Melo wanting his son to hear boo's being on a bad team, and if things don't get a lot better and Red is still here that's going to happen next year.

do you not remember the dumpster fire that was Cuse b-ball before Melo got on campus in 2002? Deshaun Williams punching the girl that was Otto at the bar.

 

[rocfan44]

Bottom Line Red is bad. We hired the wrong assistant. And for all you Boeheim haters, you are getting what you wished for.

 

[jdubs30]

Strongly disagree with Langel if that's where you're going with this. Colgate to Cuse is far too big of a jump if Cuse wants to actually act like a bigtime program. There are other candidates out there that have demonstrated the coaching acumen and recruiting prowess at the P5 level, which are both needed.

People need to get over this “far too big of a jump” thing . We aren’t getting a proven P5 coach to come here. So our best options are either a P5 assistant (who most likely has no HC experience) or a proven mid major coach. Give me the proven guy, let him hire a great recruiter, and we will be sailing

Langel coaches circles around half the ACC (at least) right now. I’d love it

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Nate Oats came out of Buffalo. Is Buffalo to Alabama a smaller leap?

Oats was much more of a complete candidate than Langel, especially on the recruiting front.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Why would you think that about Griffin?

Been here for quite a while during the slide. If you are going to make a change and it isn’t Red, it would fall on the assistant that’s been here for a long time who hasn’t been productive.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Did you happen to watch Colgate play at Kentucky this week? Even though they were completely outmanned and playing without their starting center, they had a lead in the second half. You can see how they scheme to get their three point shooters open, and they box out every time. We could do far far worse than Matt Langel

We also could have done worse than Red. The point is that we don't have to settle for marginal options. Again.

 

[Orangefizz]

Bottom Line Red is bad. We hired the wrong assistant. And for all you Boeheim haters, you are getting what you wished for.

Not to be mean but I want no part of any coach who spent the entirety of their career with JB.

 

[kingtidge]

Bottom Line Red is bad. We hired the wrong assistant. And for all you Boeheim haters, you are getting what you wished for.

We were getting a Boeheim assistant regardless and no one wished Red would fail.

 

[rocfan44]

Not to be mean but I want no part of any coach who spent the entirety of their career with JB.

I am at that point to where we need to just go outsidethe family and get a fresh look. Only one I’d like is Gmac but he is still green. Problem is, is there anyone out there that would make a splash coming in?

 

[Millhouse]

I don't know. It's usually, and I hate to say this and I'm not saying it to hurt you but it is usually 5 years.

If that is true, fire wildhack too because that is really stupid

 

[rocfan44]

We were getting a Boeheim assistant regardless and no one wished Red would fail.

Not saying I wished him to fail. B it’s just clear he is over his head.

 

[sufan59]

Not to be mean but I want no part of any coach who spent the entirety of their career with JB.

Learn though from the football side that the outsider needs to bring his new perspective, but not isolate the history and basketball alumni.

 

[dasher]

If that is true, fire wildhack too because that is really stupid

How many years did A.D, Millhouse give him? Remember, other schools use it against you when the coach is on a short contract.