Coach Search Options after Autry

[MikeSU02]

Wow.

Just catching up. What a ride!

So we have people actually caping for Hop?

The dude that bombed as HC. Has not done anything of note in the NBA. And, from what I can tell, has a selling point of "I know my resume isn't good enough and I wouldn't even get an interview in normal circumstances, but I'm a conduit to what would be a bunch of initial money even though I have never been a proven coach".

That is what we have? People are really doing this?

Here is a fun thought experiment, if Melo is the driving force behind Hop's legitimate shot at this HC and we currently have Kiyan on the team, do you think that there is a chance that Melo is the reason or had a hand in keeping Red this past year?

The NIL is being used as a boogeyman in this thread. Has Hodgon never raised money?

This is insane. We are 12 years on being no better than an 8 seed, five years straight of no tourney, we allowed JB to keep coaching after a 2nd probation (reminder, back in the day, we were considered UNLV East), screwed over Hop (who apparently no one gave a hoo about back then), then lied about having to hire Red and here we are hoping like hope that doing the same thing ends in different results.

That huge Dome that we have? Did that look good the games we had like 5K butts in seats? Because that Dome is going to be a running joke once we're back into an offense that features a 2G that shot below 50% TS% and has a PER that's in the 12s (Kiyan). Because Melo isn't spending all this money to have Kiyan be a dev player.

This is categorically insane.

But it isn't surprising. Same people that pushed JB being ok to screw over Hop, pushed the Boeheim and Friends teams, pushed that Red HAD to be the coach...

Same group, will be the same results.

My lord.

 

[qdawgg]

The Guppy has fewer quad 1 wins than Red Autry!!!!

You’re a Guppy with no Quad 4 wins.

 

[RF2044]

We need to discuss how stupid this NIL obsession is. UCF has one of the worst financial situations in the country and is 20-7 in the best league in the country(Big 12).

NC State has probably double to triple their money and got boat raced last night by a team likely with a lower budget because their coach isn't as good.

The fact this is the only thing the powers at be are thinking about is scary.

COMPLELTLY AGREE!!!

 

[VikesCuse84]

Basketball program on life support and the university thinks Lyke at AD and Hop coaching is the answer!? Someone needs to talk some sense into the BoT before it’s too late.

 

[Orangezoo]

Not sure if shared in the other thread but found this survey around the AD search. I made my thoughts known about AD and the HC options. Who knows if it would make a difference but can’t hurt for everyone to jump in and put your thoughts in along with sharing with anyone in Cuse fandom.

Might be worth it’s own post to pin too for folks to see.

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[rrlbees]

Melo and GMac famously didn’t get along during the 2003 season. Boeheim had to mediate (I believe it was after the loss to Rutgers that things came to a head).

Obviously that was a million years ago when both were young, immature adults. But who knows if they’ve ever been close.

it wasnt a melo - gmac thing really. it was melo wanting his friend edelin to be more the pg. jb basically told him who the hell has been getting you the ball before edein could play. i'm sure there was much more jb said. but melo and gmac got along fine.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Wish there was a way to gather a petition quickly and get it to the search committee with a very scathing letter around fan support falling apart should they choose Lykes/Hop. It would need a well known influential face behind it which is the problem…

Paging the dasher...

 

[Cusefan0307]

Wes Durham likes the idea of GMac as the next guy. Have at it.

Better than Hop. That's all I got.

 

[RF2044]

it wasnt a melo - gmac thing really. it was melo wanting his friend edelin to be more the pg. jb basically told him who the hell has been getting you the ball before edein could play. i'm sure there was much more jb said. but melo and gmac got along fine.

Yeah, I thought this conflict also involved Duany [the senior], who wanted more shots over the young-uns.

Obviously, that was not a direction that would have helped the team, and JB set him straight from what I understand [and I love Duany, this was a rare dust-up involving him].

 

[TommyA13]

People can stop bringing up Tony Bennett now

 

[elimunelson]

Gmac making a run in the tourney is the law of unintended consequences scenario.

Could be a pr nightmare for a new AD.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Color me concerned with these developments

 

[RF2044]

Gmac making a run in the tourney is the law of unintended consequences scenario.

Could be a pr nightmare for a new AD.

I think if people looked at who Siena has beaten this year, instead of just the overall W-L record, it would paint things differently in terms of how GMac would be seen as a candidate.

 

[Bulldog04]

I can say this with certainty - Melo has a package of $30 million (and growing) lined up for Hop. This includes nba players, local guys and a few that have never donated to cuse ever before. The plan is to front load that money for the first 2 years to immediately become relevant. But that’s what the deal is for Hop from Melo.

 

[Cusefan0307]

People can stop bringing up Tony Bennett now

Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being a GM like Brad Stevens. New ownership has been cleaning house in LA.

 

[Irishsecra1]

it wasnt a melo - gmac thing really. it was melo wanting his friend edelin to be more the pg. jb basically told him who the hell has been getting you the ball before edein could play. i'm sure there was much more jb said. but melo and gmac got along fine.

Edelin was actually a really sad story.
Immensely talented but battled mental health issues.
Apparently a really nice guy who just couldn't hold it together.

 

[qdawgg]

Does Hodgson know how to navigate the complexities with the Dome being multi purpose with Football, Lacrosse, and Women's Basketball. Potentially having to wait till gameday to do walkthroughs. Hopkins does. This is another argument in the pro Hopkins camp. Doesn't the away team also deal with this when they come to play us?

I never thought of this. Hire Hop now because no new coach could figure these admin tasks typically left to other people to figure out.

 

[TommyA13]

I can say this with certainty - Melo has a package of $30 million (and growing) lined up for Hop. This includes nba players, local guys and a few that have never donated to cuse ever before. The plan is to front load that money for the first 2 years to immediately become relevant. But that’s what the deal is for Hop from Melo.

I wish he’d do that for BH, we’d be so relevant again

 

[RF2044]

I can say this with certainty - Melo has a package of $30 million (and growing) lined up for Hop. This includes nba players, local guys and a few that have never donated to cuse ever before. The plan is to front load that money for the first 2 years to immediately become relevant. But that’s what the deal is for Hop from Melo.

And after Kiyan departs -- what then?

This sounds like a short-term influx, not a long-term sustainable set of NIL funds.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Not sure if shared in the other thread but found this survey around the AD search. I made my thoughts known about AD and the HC options. Who knows if it would make a difference but can’t hurt for everyone to jump in and put your thoughts in along with sharing with anyone in Cuse fandom.

Might be worth it’s own post to pin too for folks to see.

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I might have to fill this out

 

[Bulldog04]

And after Kiyan departs -- what then?

This sounds like a short-term influx, not a long-term sustainable set of NIL funds.

Speculating here, but they win immediately. More ticket sales, easier to fundraise when winning and the trend continues down the road.

 

[Orangezoo]

I might have to fill this out

I posted a thread separately too so it doesn’t get buried

 

[Cusefan69]

If people are angry, they should email the current AD and perhaps Haynie who will be the new Chancellor. In the subject line put something like "If Lyke and Hopkins are hired, you are not renewing your seasons. " Keep it professional but in a paragraph say why.
If you want change, don't be passive and just post here but reach out. People are saying this stuff is "life or death ". If so, let people who are making decisions know about it.

 

[qdawgg]

So Hops key assistants at UW as of now:

Will Conroy- now an Assistant coach at USC,
Cameron Dollar- not coaching
Wyking Jones- now a Real Estate Agent
Dave Rice- HC at a Community College after a year at Cal Baptist as an assistant.

Let’s certainly hope the assistant lineup is much much better in his quest for the job should he have a real shot over BH.

Can’t wait to get the band back together.

 

[rrlbees]

Edelin was actually a really sad story.
Immensely talented but battled mental health issues.
Apparently a really nice guy who just couldn't hold it together.

billy was and is a great kid.