Class of 2014 DB Deion Hallmon (FL) Offered

[alphaorange]

I understand the rules and the intent, but I really can't understand how the NCAA can "morally" hold any school accountable for the actions of fans, or even former players, who cannot be reasonably expected to know the rules. We know because we are on this forum, but I assure you that people that don't frequent these boards have no clue they are breaking rules that could injure the school. If they punish a school for the actions of online fans, I just don't see how it could hold up in court. Fans don't have an NCAA recruiting oversight staff to keep them straight...

 

[Jeepers]

Whenever I see this discussion, all I think is - NCAA - Cam Newton - nothing

Cue:

 

[orange44pride]

Not to mention that I could pretend to be a fan of another school and try to get them in trouble, u have no way of knowing.

#CuseTwitterArmy

 

[TheCusian]

Not to mention that I could pretend to be a fan of another school and try to get them in trouble, u have no way of knowing.

#CuseTwitterArmy

There always ways of knowing. The web isn't as wild west as people think.

 

[RF2044]

Not to mention that I could pretend to be a fan of another school and try to get them in trouble, u have no way of knowing.

#CuseTwitterArmy

This is exactly why I think it would be unenforceable, practically speaking. Fans from one program could set up other programs as you describe.

 

[texascpa]

There always ways of knowing. The web isn't as wild west as people think.

Sure, but it's not an easy process to discover people, especially if they're using public computers or IP spoofing software. How many twitter monitors would the NCAA have to hire to police this?

 

[Van111]

I understand the rules and the intent, but I really can't understand how the NCAA can "morally" hold any school accountable for the actions of fans, or even former players, who cannot be reasonably expected to know the rules. We know because we are on this forum, but I assure you that people that don't frequent these boards have no clue they are breaking rules that could injure the school. If they punish a school for the actions of online fans, I just don't see how it could hold up in court. Fans don't have an NCAA recruiting oversight staff to keep them straight...

If Coaches from Alabama can send out 105 letters in one day to one kid (Kamara), which I would call way over the line, then how could the NCAA stop twitter fans. In fact they haven't. If the NCAA starts this war, it will not end well, this is teh world we live in today. My son takes a picture of evrey meal he eats, probably before and after, and posts just about evreything immaginable. There is no way this is going to be managed from a fans perspective. Coaches and Alumns with Intrest in the program, that is another, but still it would have to be quite flagrant IMO.

 

[TheCusian]

Sure, but it's not an easy process to discover people, especially if they're using public computers or IP spoofing software. How many twitter monitors would the NCAA have to hire to police this?

Right. I'm in the camp that thinks its largely unenforceable. If they found $ was involved, tracking IP, etc. would be more worth the cost.

 

[Texas Otto]

Sure, but it's not an easy process to discover people, especially if they're using public computers or IP spoofing software. How many twitter monitors would the NCAA have to hire to police this?

None they just call the NSA

 

[Orangepace]

It is not unenforceable. It is difficult to enforce in many cases, but as several here have stated, this kind of singular case lends itself to easy enforcement.

Is it selectively-enforceable? That may be the saving grace. If the NCAA cracks down on statements made in a publicly accessible forum, and everyone in the world can see that they are letting Ohio State etc. off the hook, they're really dead as a governing body. Everyone suspects that there is selective enforcement now on "traditional" recruiting activities, but that involves information not generally visible to, and available to, the public - especially to fans of opposing teams. Thus difficult to prove.

Simple.. a Rutgers fan hacked Tyree's account.. He was just having a come to jesus...

 

[PhatOrange]

Interesting article. Syracuse in the thick of it

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...isit_rutgers_august_29_for_season_opener.html

 

[orangenauburn]

Interesting article. Syracuse in the thick of it

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...isit_rutgers_august_29_for_season_opener.html

I like our chances

 

[Libero2]

We certainly could be pain a worse spot, but if he really won't visit us until after Rutgers, that clearly puts them in the drivers seat for him. Gotta hope SS and Co. Can do something to change his mind.

 

[syr02esq]

For the 1000th time, this stuff is unenforceable. By the book, its a violation. But the NCAA isnt monitoring what David Tyree or any other NFL player is tweeting at prospective recruits. Tweet away David Tyree, tweet away.

And even if anything were to happen, you trade the potential wrist slap by a toothless NCAA to improve the chances of landing the kid. Our current crop of coaches/recruiting staff clearly agree with this premise if anyone follows their respective twitter feeds. They've certainly started to test the line (which I think is a good idea).

I agree. If the NCAA can't put Miami away for all the flagrant fouls they committed, I feel much less worried about tweeting.

 

[PhatOrange]

We certainly could be pain a worse spot, but if he really won't visit us until after Rutgers, that clearly puts them in the drivers seat for him. Gotta hope SS and Co. Can do something to change his mind.

We just have to get him here, Clemson will be sick

 

[djorange1989]

I need to stop following the Twitter accounts of 17 year olds, it is stressing me out! A few days ago he said we were his first visit. Ahhhhhhhhhhh

 

[ImperialOrange]

We certainly could be pain a worse spot, but if he really won't visit us until after Rutgers, that clearly puts them in the drivers seat for him. Gotta hope SS and Co. Can do something to change his mind.

I would think that puts us in a good spot. He'll see/smell NJ first hand and drop them in his top 5 immediately.

They'll likely try and get him up for the 9/21 game vs Arkansas because the rest of their home schedule is putrid. We can have him up 2 weeks later when we're 4-0 and Clemson is at the Dome for a nationally televised matchup between 2 ranked teams.

 

[anomander]

Interesting article. Syracuse in the thick of it

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...isit_rutgers_august_29_for_season_opener.html

this kid is definitely giving contradicting interviews. i have a feeling he is a people pleaser, as well as an attention whore. No matter what he says it won't matter until NSD. Until then I'm not even going to waste my time following his recruitment.

 

[Jeepers]

this kid is definitely giving contradicting interviews. i have a feeling he is a people pleaser, as well as an attention whore. No matter what he says it won't matter until NSD. Until then I'm not even going to waste my time following his recruitment.

The 50 offers seems awfully suspicious to me.

 

[weedsportwarriors]

Deion Hallmon ‏@DeionHallmon5m
Got invited to play in the under armor all American game #TurnUp
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Hopefully this will be one more game to prepare him for his career at Syracuse.

 

[anomander]

Looks like it's going to be a long 6 months

 

[Rocco]

RECRUITS – Make sure Rivals and ESPN have ALL of your offers listed. Tell your fellow recruits to do the same.

Last Updated: Offers: 7/18/2013 Commits: 7/18/2013

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Rank​

Player Name

Position​

City

Committed to​

FBS Offers​

Top 25 Offers​

Offer Points​

1​

Joe Mixon

RB​

Oakley, CA

48​

18​

3,681.82​

2​

Brandon Simmons

DB​

Mansfield, TX

Stanford​

44​

15​

3,350.86​

3​

Quincy Wilson

DB​

Fort Lauderdale, FL

44​

15​

3,299.31​

4​

Deion Hallmon

DB​

Weston, FL

46​

6​

3,179.25​

5​

Da’Shawn Hand

DE​

Woodbridge, VA

40​

16​

3,114.58​

6​

Josh Malone

WR​

Gallatin, TN

41​

15​

3,101.83​

7​

Orlando Brown

OL​

Duluth, GA

Tennessee​

39​

16​

3,025.10​

8​

Andy Bauer

OL​

St. Louis, MO

Mississippi​

38​

17​

2,972.71​

9​

Jacob Pugh

LB​

Tallahassee, FL

Florida State​

39​

11​

2,900.23​

10​

Malachi Dupre

WR​

River Ridge, LA

38​

13​

2,876.02​

11​

Lorenzo Carter

DE​

Norcross, GA

36​

17​

2,871.73​

12​

Richard Yeargin III

LB​

Fort Lauderdale, FL

37​

12​

2,763.71​

13​

Bryson Allen-Williams

LB​

Ellenwood, GA

South Carolina​

36​

12​

2,743.06​

14​

Nyles Morgan

LB​

Crete, IL

35​

14​

2,727.62​

15​

Dwight Williams

LB​

Gardena, CA

36​

13​

2,718.69​

16​

Mattrell McGraw

DB​

River Ridge, LA

36​

13​

2,718.39​

17​

Solomon Thomas

DE​

Coppell, TX

34​

17​

2,711.63​

18​

Vincent Jackson

LB​

Tampa, FL

35​

10​

2,682.88​

19​

Myles Autry

WR​

Norcross, GA

33​

16​

2,611.63​

20​

Peyton Newell

DE​

Hiawatha, KS

34​

13​

2,607.18​

21​

Damian Prince

OL​

Forestville, MD

34​

11​

2,596.05​

22​

D’Andre Payne

DB​

Washington, DC

Tennessee​

35​

9​

2,581.83​

23​

Khairi Clark

DT​

Hollywood, FL

Florida​

33​

15​

2,567.73​

24​

Andrew Williams

DE​

McDonough, GA

32​

19​

2,566.17​

25​

Arrion Springs

DB​

San Antonio, TX

Oregon​

34​

13​

2,564.15​

 

[CuseLegacy]

So according to this he does have 46 offers and 6 are top 25. Oh and out of these 25 kids, only 8 have committed anywhere as of 7/18. Guess he won't be the only one with a lengthy recruitment.

 

[Whitey23]

@DeionHallmon

22m​

Just got offered by university of Florida #Gators #54

Have to think they could jump to the top of the list. (or not)...

 

[RF2044]

@DeionHallmon

22m​

Just got offered by university of Florida #Gators #54

Have to think they could jump to the top of the list.

That stinks.