Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[sutomcat]

Interior demo almost complete; construction should move quickly. Occupancy around this time next year.

A more vibrant downtown is great. The southern side near there should really benefit from this.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I used to bounce at the Armory Suds. Owner was weird for sure. I live in Bville now and have never in my life seen a patron in that restaurant. Really a damn shame cause that river location across from San Miguel is MONEY.

Hah. I have been in there a handful of times. 2 or 3 times for chowder fest and once for Margarita fest. Used to go to the downtown suds all the time 15-20 years ago. I believe they did 25 cent wings for football. I remember pounding 40 of those in one sitting when I was in my early 20’s.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Anyone have any updates on the Inner Harbor Aquarium? I may be in the minority, but I've always wanted an aquarium in Syracuse. Pretty stoked about it.

I think construction is proceeding but they’re not in a rush while they try to secure some private money to cover the increased costs.

I’m personally curious how they plan to bring in repeat visits. The zoo has a nice enough outdoor walking trail that I can see why some would want to go often. But an aquarium tends to be more of an indoor experience. Hope they know what they’re doing. Unless you have a billion dollars to invest it’s hard to stand out when you have Niagara and Mystic a few hours away. Hopefully they can create an outdoors area for people who want to just stroll through on their lunch break.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I think construction is proceeding but they’re not in a rush while they try to secure some private money to cover the increased costs.

I’m personally curious how they plan to bring in repeat visits. The zoo has a nice enough outdoor walking trail that I can see why some would want to go often. But an aquarium tends to be more of an indoor experience. Hope they know what they’re doing. Unless you have a billion dollars to invest it’s hard to stand out when you have Niagara and Mystic a few hours away. Hopefully they can create an outdoors area for people who want to just stroll through on their lunch break.

Think of it in a couple ways - Turning Stoners need a place for the family to go if they are vacationing up here from somewhere else. An aquarium and a zoo 45 minutes away is good.

And this is a checklist item to draw spouses and families of people looking to work at Micron.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Think of it in a couple ways - Turning Stoners need a place for the family to go if they are vacationing up here from somewhere else. An aquarium and a zoo 45 minutes away is good.

And this is a checklist item to draw spouses and families of people looking to work at Micron.

I’m all for the aquarium and hope it succeeds. Just saying I’ve been to a few and they all seem to blend together. Niagara for instance I wasn’t blown away by and at those price points I wouldn’t go back. They’re talking $18-20 admission which is a bit high for this market, and we don’t have Niagara Falls to guarantee tourism traffic.

Then there’s the duration of the visit. With the zoo and its walking trails a family could spend an afternoon. Most aquariums I’ve been to you can walk through in 30 minutes. Families will care about the bang for the buck.

 

[Ernj]

I used to bounce at the Armory Suds. Owner was weird for sure. I live in Bville now and have never in my life seen a patron in that restaurant. Really a damn shame cause that river location across from San Miguel is MONEY.

I had my fake ID taken away back in '93 trying to get Syracuse Suds. Six months before my 21st B'Day. Had that ID for 4 years. Was very upset.

Good news. Bouncer was dating girl from my HS. She called me next day and got my ID back!!!!!

 

[IthacaMatt]

I’m all for the aquarium and hope it succeeds. Just saying I’ve been to a few and they all seem to blend together. Niagara for instance I wasn’t blown away by and at those price points I wouldn’t go back. They’re talking $18-20 admission which is a bit high for this market, and we don’t have Niagara Falls to guarantee tourism traffic.

Then there’s the duration of the visit. With the zoo and its walking trails a family could spend an afternoon. Most aquariums I’ve been to you can walk through in 30 minutes. Families will care about the bang for the buck.

It all depends. The aquarium in Key West is great. It's semi-outdoor with holding pools of ocean water, and they have tanks inside for all kinds of coral, sea horses, crabs, rays, etc. The one in the Bahamas where you walk through it, also very cool. Coney Island is also mostly outdoor and is a nice walk on a summer day, just like the zoo.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I’m all for the aquarium and hope it succeeds. Just saying I’ve been to a few and they all seem to blend together. Niagara for instance I wasn’t blown away by and at those price points I wouldn’t go back. They’re talking $18-20 admission which is a bit high for this market, and we don’t have Niagara Falls to guarantee tourism traffic.

Then there’s the duration of the visit. With the zoo and its walking trails a family could spend an afternoon. Most aquariums I’ve been to you can walk through in 30 minutes. Families will care about the bang for the buck.

It's less for the locals than the zoo is. Look at it that way.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

An aquarium is a zoo for fish.

I think I've been to the real zoo once in the past 45 years.

 

[IthacaMatt]

It's less for the locals than the zoo is. Look at it that way.

An aquarium is a zoo for fish.

I think I've been to the real zoo once in the past 45 years.

Yes, precisely.

Parents with kids of school age like these things.
Young wannabe artists like to go draw the animals.
Schools schedule field trips.
College kids studying oceanography could work or study there.

There are so many lakes in this part of the country. As the climate dries up other parts of the country, this could be more appealing than you realize.

When you're trying to recruit doctors, engineers and other professionals to this area, they look at quality of life. People who looked at moving to Micron in freaking Idaho probably looked at affordable housing, small town life, hunting, fishing and skiing as family activities, quality of life stuff.

Micron in Syracuse offers lots of parks, golf, the 1,000 Islands, Adirondacks Park, FInger Lakes Wine country, lots of good universities, decent art scene. A zoo and an aquarium help make Syracuse look more intellectually stimulating for families.

 

[Scooch]

Having zoos and aquariums nearby is phenomenal when you have little kids.

Down my way in CT I have a zoo 10 minutes away in one direction and an aquarium 15 minutes away in the other direction. For years I had a family membership for both. They were fantastic places to go spend a couple hours on a weekend day with the kiddos. And they're always bringing in new exhibits on a rotating basis. So there's always something to see.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Yes, precisely.

Parents with kids of school age like these things.
Young wannabe artists like to go draw the animals.
School schedule field trips.
College kids studying oceanography could work or study there.

There are so many lakes in this part of the country. As the climate dries up other parts of the country, this could be more appealing that you realize.

When you're trying to recruit doctors, engineers and other professionals to this area, they look at quality of life. People who looked at moving to Micron in freaking Idaho probably looked at affordable housing, small town life, hunting, fishing and skiing as family activities, quality of life stuff.

Micron in Syracuse offers lots of parks, golf, the 1,000 Islands, Adirondacks Park, FInger Lakes Wine country, lots of good universities, decent art scene. A zoo and an aquarium help make Syracuse look more intellectually stimulating for families.

I wish there was an aquarium when my out of state grandchildren would visit. Repeat visits to the Zoo, Green Lakes, Beaver Lake Nature Center, Onondaga Lake Pkwy etc gets old as the kids age and are a hard sell in the cold winter months. There needs to be more year round draws for visitors and with the colleges, sports events, concerts etc. I would imagine that the area’s economy would love if people had more reasons to stay for longer visits.

 

[orangemass]

I had my fake ID taken away back in '93 trying to get Syracuse Suds. Six months before my 21st B'Day. Had that ID for 4 years. Was very upset.

Good news. Bouncer was dating girl from my HS. She called me next day and got my ID back!!!!!

Story with a good ending

 

[FrancoPizza]

An aquarium is a zoo for fish.

I think I've been to the real zoo once in the past 45 years.

You must not have kids.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

You must not have kids.

I had a goldfish once.

It died.

I didn't notice for a week.

 

[TexanMark]

It's less for the locals than the zoo is. Look at it that way.

I know the County still would love to build extensive sports fields to host youth tournaments which would compliment the Aquarium.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I know the County still would love to build extensive sports fields to host youth tournaments which would compliment the Aquarium.

Supposedly adding 2 soccer fields and more baseball/softball at Hopkins with LED lighting along with additional fields at Carrier. Some of that may get done this year.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Supposedly adding 2 soccer fields and more baseball/softball at Hopkins with LED lighting along with additional fields at Carrier. Some of that may get done this year.

Has Carrier been cleared for repurposing? I thought there were environmental issues there. Maybe they are just using the separate athletic fields that Carrier owned but not plant sites?

 

[Cusefan0307]

Has Carrier been cleared for repurposing? I thought there were environmental issues there. Maybe they are just using the separate athletic fields that Carrier owned but not plant sites?

This is straight from the Town of Dewitt:

Supervisor’s Update: Carrier Park Phase 3 Construction

www.townofdewitt.com

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I loved Empire, but Dave Katleski had a lot of problems and was not a great businessman.

I was under the impression that they also didn’t pay sales tax

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Anyone have any updates on the Inner Harbor Aquarium? I may be in the minority, but I've always wanted an aquarium in Syracuse. Pretty stoked about it.

I LOVE aquariums. I’ve been to the Baltimore one at least 5 times.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I believe construction is well underway on this one, although I could be wrong. The additional funding will be helpful.

Yes. I drove by yesterday when I was downtown, and noticed that the floors had all been demo'ed and new windows put in.

 

[rocklloyd]

Has Carrier been cleared for repurposing? I thought there were environmental issues there. Maybe they are just using the separate athletic fields that Carrier owned but not plant sites?

It’s the area where the old company recreation center was. Land already turned over to Dewitt and developed several years ago This project is an expansion of what‘s already there.

 

[Cheriehoop]

It’s the area where the old company recreation center. Land already turned over to Dewitt and developed several years ago This project is an expansion of what‘s already there.

TY that makes sense.

 

[upperdeck]

came down for the first time in forever. my wife is navigating. Get to the end where its detour to 81 south, Then you get to the round about and nothing. a sign might be nice.