Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[IthacaMatt]

Genuine question, was this al Hochul or did McMahon have a major hand to?

Bad to admit but I’ve just not had time to follow along the build up to this

I think this was mostly Schumer and CenterState CEO, to be honest.

 

[JoeCollege]

TEXANmark is false advertising imo

He is a global brand, my dude. On par with Nike and Coca-Cola.

 

[HOFCeluck]

He is a global brand, my dude. On par with Nike and Coca-Cola.

Never heard. I only drink Brawndo.

 

[SWC75]

You mean...Democrats and Republicans worked together to create something that will benefit everyone?

 

[storange]

He is a global brand, my dude. On par with Nike and Coca-Cola.

I heard some of the football factories are wooing him to organize their tailgate programs. We better pony up if we’re going to keep him !

 

[TexanMark]

Tremendous job! I think they were originally talking to AMD, who chose another location (Virginia, I think ...). So this is a huge "save".

And if you take into account JMA, who manufactures wireless technology, we are really building next generation employers here in CNY. This is very exciting for our future!

I wonder what the synergy will be between Micron and JMA?

You'd think JMA would love to have their chip source 15 mins away.

 

[TexanMark]

Never heard. I only drink Brawndo.

I'll send my ace salesman, Bill Brasky over to show you your error of judgment.

 

[bevosu]

Micron picks Syracuse suburb for huge computer chip plant that would bring up to 9,000 jobs

Semiconductor giant would invest $100B to build a mega-complex here. "This is incredible and transformative news for Central New York," Schumer says.

www.syracuse.com

BIG. Probably the most significant industrial development in Onondaga county since Electronics Park back in the early 50s.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Tremendous job! I think they were originally talking to AMD, who chose another location (Virginia, I think ...). So this is a huge "save".

And if you take into account JMA, who manufactures wireless technology, we are really building next generation employers here in CNY. This is very exciting for our future!

It was TSMC and then Intel. They went to Arizona and Ohio.

 

[donniesyracuse]

As a Florida Resident that might be problematic

eh, there are ways

 

[tptcuse]

So now it’s going to take me an hour to do the 10 mile drive to Cicero from Baldwinsville instead of a half hour. Hopefully they can figure out a way to widen 31 because it’s already a shat show.

"The state also agreed to spend $200 million on road and infrastructure improvements around the site."

 

[TexanMark]

It was TSMC and then Intel. They went to Arizona and Ohio.

For awhile I thought Syracuse was going to be the San Antonio of the NFL

 

[TexanMark]

"The state also agreed to spend $200 million on road and infrastructure improvements around the site."

Looking at the map...they absolutely need to build an interchange off I-81 at Mudmill Rd and/or somewhere about a mile north of the Cicero Interchange.

 

[OttoMets]

Chipfab turned Franco into a positive poster today.

I've seen it all.

It even topped HOF getting an earnest "dislike" from one of the usual suspects for his pot-stirring Biden post.

 

[OttoMets]

So now it’s going to take me an hour to do the 10 mile drive to Cicero from Baldwinsville instead of a half hour. Hopefully they can figure out a way to widen 31 because it’s already a shat show.

On the bright side, there aren't too many reasons to drive to Cicero!

 

[OttoMets]

They all had a hand, but without the Chips act this doesn't get done.

Al Stirpe and Rob Simpson also deserve call outs.

Yep, big team effort at every level of government, but there was a reason Rob was in attendance at the White House for the bill signing this summer.

 

[OttoMets]

And the Chips Act would never have happened without COVID.

The county was aiming for a much smaller tenant and a much more modest investment and struck out a number of times going after these relatively small fish.
...

Well said. This site was a boondoggle until the world changed. Props to the County Exec for his persistence, mixed with a healthy dose of luck.

 

[orangenauburn]

Looking at the map...they absolutely need to build an interchange off I-81 at Mudmill Rd and/or somewhere about a mile north of the Cicero Interchange.

100%

Expect Mud Mill and Caughdenoy Roads to become major players for future development of commercial, retail, and residential neighborhoods.

Easy access to 81 and 31, lots of available land, water nearby.

Big potential there.

 

[bevosu]

NY Times article about Syracuse/Micron.
A reader comment...

I lived up there for ten years. Yeah, it snows. But I never, ever could NOT get where I needed to be. Ever. And the towns and state care of the snow removal of public streets and parking lots. It is a side gig for private areas. The skill set is still in place for R and D and manufacturing up there. Between the SUNYs, Syracuse, Cornell, Albany, Rochester, Buffalo and the Troy area and add to that IBM, LM, the UAV Corridor and AFRL…there is certainly enough talent to draw people back to an area they never wanted to leave in the first place.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Oswego State started a computer science and electrical engineering program about a decade ago encouraged by Novelis (formerly Alcan) in Oswego that was making huge expansion plans and needed engineers. The state, the college etc all cooperated in getting an accredited electrical and computer engineering program.

Electrical and Computer Engineering BS | SUNY Oswego Academic Programs

Lead the technology revolution and prepare to advance emerging technologies that will make a difference for people all over the world. Oswego prepares future engineers with a well-rounded competitive education that delves into high-demand areas.

www.oswego.edu

The new Micron site along with Lockheed Martin, Novelis etc have Engineering programs at SU, Cornell, Oswego State, Clarkson College, RIT, U of Rochester etc to supply their large Engineering needs for present and future technology opportunities. These universities are all within about a 2 hour distance. I was told that this gives the central NY area a huge advantage in becoming a national tech center.

Oswego County which is only a few minutes from the Micron site will also reap big benefits. Rome, NY also has had a boon in technology jobs, many government related. Add JMA and drone technology already here, the future sure looks much brighter.

 

[FloridaFan]

Another thing that doesn’t get talked about as much as what it means when thousands of new people move in is the amount of businesses devoted to them that also open up as a response to them which leads to even more growth and then from 9000 jobs at micron you have dozens of small businesses growing and hiring local people and adding even more tax base to the area

 

[bevosu]

Nice if it actually happens.

NY Times article.

Over the next 20 years, Micron said, the project will generate nearly 50,000 jobs — about 9,000 Micron employees and more than 40,000 jobs for suppliers, contractors and others. The plan also calls for Micron and the state to spend $500 million on community and work force training.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/...pvv6qNmMv_sq6Ex44UJ3fre6RH5fIQ&smid=share-url

 

[Cheriehoop]

Nice if it actually happens.

NY Times article.

Over the next 20 years, Micron said, the project will generate nearly 50,000 jobs — about 9,000 Micron employees and more than 40,000 jobs for suppliers, contractors and others. The plan also calls for Micron and the state to spend $500 million on community and work force training.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/...pvv6qNmMv_sq6Ex44UJ3fre6RH5fIQ&smid=share-url

According to McMahon, they have already committed - papers signed etc.

 

[orangenauburn]

Couple thoughts.

Does this encourage Lockheed to continue to focus on their Syracuse campus and commit greater investment here?

With Micron coming in, Utica-Rome will benefit in the fact that Wolfspeed will have to improve their wages. While they pay well for the area, they are low wages comparative to the industry. Moving or commuting an hour away won't be difficult for those currently employed there, if Micron is going to pay more.

Can the powers that be land another whale for the south side of Syracuse, or something just east in Madison county?

Will SU invest greater in an engineering and computer science program / school?

 

[SWC75]

Couple thoughts.

Does this encourage Lockheed to continue to focus on their Syracuse campus and commit greater investment here?

With Micron coming in, Utica-Rome will benefit in the fact that Wolfspeed will have to improve their wages. While they pay well for the area, they are low wages comparative to the industry. Moving or commuting an hour away won't be difficult for those currently employed there, if Micron is going to pay more.

Can the powers that be land another whale for the south side of Syracuse, or something just east in Madison county?

Will SU invest greater in an engineering and computer science program / school?

I wonder if people will move back east for the water.