Diagne

[Rocco]

 

[SUFan44]

Um, I'm not sure that you fully understand the positional defensive responsibilities of the center in our zone. Being relatively short is less important than him weighing only 210 pounds. How the heck is he supposed to anchor position and hold it inside? He's plenty good enough as a rebounder and [I think] a shot blocker. But he's too light to nail that down.

Chino is bigger and stronger. Coming at you, kid.

Who's a kid?

I said my opinion and I hope we don't have to see it very much. And I hope Chino improves - I think he can be serviceable as a center.

But I have seen Boeheim play smaller guys in the middle before because he doesn't want to play 4 on 5 offensively. I can see him doing it again here.

 

[JeremyCuse]

I've watched Chino play for two full years and seen him in numerous practice settings, unlike many posters. He lacks awareness--that's his problem, because he's fairly new to the game. He scores a bit inside. Not sure what you mean by "black hole" -- that means something else in basketball vernacular that I don't believe you're implying.

But who wants him putting the ball up? He should only shoot on put backs, in transition, and on rare occasions when he's open. You're barking up the wrong tree. The question is: can he fulfill a Keita-like role of being a defensive specialist? That's a valid question.

I was trying to imply nicely that's he's a disaster offensively. Let's be honest if this was a normal year without the sanctions Chino would be getting ready to start classes at eastern Michigan or Bryant. JB would have politely informed him it was time to move on see cat guy and Dash riley.

 

[dilligaf]

I guess, if you don't know or understand the minimum core requirements.

Apparently I'm not the only one caught unaware.

 

[Alsacs]

Sucks for Diagne the NCAA should have told him sooner, but we now officially have a scholarship for Battle now right?

 

[OrangeViking]

Channeling Marsh - the NCAA

 

[cuseguy]

Channeling Marsh - the NCAA

When an athlete such as Diagne signs a letter of intent, perhaps even before he signs, his high school advisers or the university compliance people should check to see that he is meeting all of his core requirements. By not doing this, Diagne and SU were burned.

 

[urban96]

Gosh Diagne it!!!!

 

[FrancoPizza]

At least we'll have El Niño to get us through the winter. :noidea:

 

[AlpharettaCuse]

When has he heard anything before its been official? Seriously I don't think he has great lines of info into the SU BBall program on anything important.

I agree with this. He didn't have the slightest idea Hopkins was going to officially be named the head coach in waiting (again) even up until the day it happened. He didn't know Hopkins had a contract that spelled it out either. I think he does a great job, but I don't think they tell him much.

 

[DoctorBombay]

Well, on the bright side it's good to get this news in August- gives us time to look at various lineup options moving forward.
Here's hoping Chino comes back rested and ready- we need him. Either way, I'd expect JB to have some tweaks up his sleeve. This ain't his first rodeo!
We'll be fine.

 

[cuseguy]

Well, on the bright side it's good to get this news in August- gives us time to look at various lineup options moving forward. Here's hoping Chino comes back rested and ready- we need him. Either way, I'd expect JB to have some tweaks up his sleeve. This ain't his first rodeo! We'll be fine.

Chino will be rested. That much we know.

 

[RF2044]

Who's a kid?

I said my opinion and I hope we don't have to see it very much. And I hope Chino improves - I think he can be serviceable as a center.

But I have seen Boeheim play smaller guys in the middle before because he doesn't want to play 4 on 5 offensively. I can see him doing it again here.

"Coming at you kid" meant that Chino is going to have to step up. It wasn't directed toward you, at all.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Shark58]

It's a huge loss this year, but also beyond.

Kid would have been a player and a fan favorite.

this will NOT be our D this year

this will NOT be our D this year

this will NOT be our D this year

this will NOT be our D this year

this will NOT be our D this year

 

[Jake]

I think Chino is the number one option to back up Coleman..and Roberson will only be used when all other options are exhausted.

 

[RF2044]

I think Chino is the number one option to back up Coleman..and Roberson will only be used when all other options are exhausted.

Agreed. It has nothing to do with whether Roberson is a better player than Obokoh -- he clearly is. But if you understand our system, we can't play Roberson in the pivot. The same way we couldn't play Hakim in the pivot. Or Damone Brown.

System wise, it just isn't viable. Obokoh has to give us decent role player minutes or we're in big trouble. Roberson will only play center in extreme emergency situations.

 

[JeremyCuse]

I think Chino is the number one option to back up Coleman..and Roberson will only be used when all other options are exhausted.

In a tight game late my money's still on Roberson. Can't play 4 on 5 offensively against UNC/Duke/UVA etc

 

[pearl31]

Look. For better or worse it's going to be Coleman and Chino at the 5 unless there are drastic injury or foul situations.
All we can do is hope Chino will have learned to play solid enough defense without fouling constantly and then set some solid screens and grab a few rebounds on offense. If that is the case, the team will be pretty good.

 

[wadegarrett]

Roberson will back up Coleman at the 5. No, we won't play man. Boeheim will put the players he trusts on the floor and make it work. Roberson is only an inch or two shorter than our past centers and, but he has very good wing span and he's a great rebounder. He is 6'7" but plays 6'9". People get so hung up on player height. Losing Diagne hurts but doesn't kill us. When was the last time we had a productive freshman center?

 

[RF2044]

Roberson will back up Coleman at the 5. No, we won't play man. Boeheim will put the players he trusts on the floor and make it work. Roberson is only an inch or two shorter than our past centers and, but he has very good wing span and he's a great rebounder. He is 6'7" but plays 6'9". People get so hung up on player height. Losing Diagne hurts but doesn't kill us. When was the last time we had a productive freshman center?

Forget height. You either need the weight / strength to hold position in the pivot in our system, or length to make up for lack of bulk.

Roberson has neither. He won't play center except in extreme situations.

 

[pearl31]

In a tight game late my money's still on Roberson. Can't play 4 on 5 offensively against UNC/Duke/UVA etc

well then you just lost some money

 

[two3zone]

What ever happened to that 7 ft+ guy...big solid guy who didn't look like he could play basketball? He was around last year, or was it the year before? A walk on.

He looked like a monster but he was really like 6'6".

 

[two3zone]

Unless DC can give us 30 a game we're in big trouble, even giving us 30 a game Chino is bad enough that 10 minutes he's playing there could be devastating. DC has question marks ALL over him and we're counting on him for this season. We're still capable of making the tournament but we are literally a injury away from being a .500 team.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Coleman
Roberson
Gbinije
Cooney
Joseph
Lydon
Malachi
Chino

Howard?

We can be decent if we are healthy, but that's a big if. Wonder if Lydon starts so they are bigger at the start, and can use Joseph as an attacking guard off the bench.

 

[cuseguy]

Coleman Roberson Gbinije Cooney Joseph Lydon Malachi Chino Howard? We can be decent if we are healthy, but that's a big if. Wonder if Lydon starts so they are bigger at the start, and can use Joseph as an attacking guard off the bench.

Lydon won't start.