Does anyone know what happened to Dick in Michigan?

[SWC75]

I've been to the different iterations of this board for nearly 15 years. It is worse now and far more juvenile and disrespectful. I understand the social networking generation that feels everything they think, do, and feel needs to posted for all to see, but it was better when the posts had to do with team and school. It is much better when civility rules, and sadly, I have had a part in the incivility at times in the past. Dick is a great fan and a valued former poster. That so many mock his choice to not participate here is exactly why he doesn't visit. He is not the only one, by far.

As longer tenured posters leave, they are often replaced with a new generation of mocking, "in your face" type of posters, who don't seem to understand that the board they are on is possible only because some of the veteran people here made it happen. As I recall, it was as an alternative to the other board where insanity ruled.

Your avatar looks like you are well protected from "in your face" posters.

 

[kuethstheman]

I've been to the different iterations of this board for nearly 15 years. It is worse now and far more juvenile and disrespectful. I understand the social networking generation that feels everything they think, do, and feel needs to posted for all to see, but it was better when the posts had to do with team and school. It is much better when civility rules, and sadly, I have had a part in the incivility at times in the past. Dick is a great fan and a valued former poster. That so many mock his choice to not participate here is exactly why he doesn't visit. He is not the only one, by far.

As longer tenured posters leave, they are often replaced with a new generation of mocking, "in your face" type of posters, who don't seem to understand that the board they are on is possible only because some of the veteran people here made it happen. As I recall, it was as an alternative to the other board where insanity ruled.

As I've said, for me it's all about civility. I can chuckle at stuff I find funny and wade through stuff meant to be funny that I don't appreciate. I don't mind people disagreeing with me or others no matter how emphatic the disagreement is but to quote a board long-timer: We can disagree without being disagreeable.

Is that not true for posters of any age, generation, or seniority on the board?

 

[alphaorange]

Your avatar looks like you are well protected from "in your face" posters.

I'm not as bothered by it as others, but I find so much of the stuff as nonsense that I don't want to waste time on. The problem is that those same posters that post the stuff I don't care for are the same posters that can offer value adding posts, too. It's not as simple as ignoring. I mostly come here to stay abreast of developments with the teams, but occasionally engage others with my thoughts on things. I appreciate the contributions that others make (such as yours, OE, CTO, Bees, Francis03, et al) but mostly like the passion of our fan base, even if it wavers off course time to time. My pet peeve is the ridiculing of those that are not willing participants of the ridicule.

 

[jekelish]

My pet peeve is the ridiculing of those that are not willing participants of the ridicule.

I really want to know, where on earth have you seen people get ridiculed directed at people who don't want to participate, as you say? I have never seen that. The only "ridicule" I have seen is interplay between participants, or directed at UConn, because as my esteemed colleague Marsh says, .

And by the way, some of the "longer tenured posters" are willing participants in some of the revelry that apparently offends you. There are people who have been around this board an awfully long time who enjoy engaging in silliness now and then, and for the most part, it never detracts from the actual basketball talk that's thrown around throughout the course of the year. Some of the people who engage in the shenanigans offer some awfully valuable insight both in terms of Syracuse basketball in its current form, as well as its future with some terrific recruiting insight.

 

[cusetown1]

I know of a few excellent posters who don't post here because of the elitist views. This one gentleman is an extremely knowledgable poster who knows a ton of inside stuff. It's a two way street.

 

[kuethstheman]

I really want to know, where on earth have you seen people get ridiculed directed at people who don't want to participate, as you say?

Well, at least four posts in this thread ridiculed Dick in Michigan. Mostly in jest but either way, he doesn't deserve that.

 

[moqui]

When I first found what was a previous version of this forum in 2002 I lurked more than posted because of the clear sense that new perspectives or any perspective from someone new was neither respected nor acceptable. I appreciated the points and enjoyed posts but stayed a lurker more for those reasons. I then proceeded to attend SU from 02-06 and visited and posted occassionally but again felt that same sense of being outside the fold. I really did not start posting more until 2007 and the most in the past 4 yrs in large part to a better mix of posters from before and current and more open minds.

Take that for what its worth but the sophomoric element aside its great to see a more diverse line of thinking and less of what seemed a clique mentality at times. I appreciate everyone's viewpoint and more than ever it seems more posters are involved in discussions than there used to be. If you care not for the new board I guess I understand some of the juvenile stuff but it also seems the fact its not such a select group bothers some as well. Not trying to offend thats just how it appears.

there is still a clique mentality; you have just found one or more in which you are comfortable

the formation of cliques is inescapable in a community of any size.

 

[Orangezoo]

there is still a clique mentality; you have just found one or more in which you are comfortable

the formation of cliques is inescapable in a community of any size.

I have? Thanks for pointing that out. I completely disagree and not sure where you justify that I am part of a clique but you are entitled to that opinion. Cliques of course exist in large communities but when they begin to impact the community and become recognizable is when it deters others from participating. Its just the same for when a clique is broken up into having more people participate, those who preferred the clique being the only group that posted decide to step away. For a long time on this board in the past there were new threads that would go unresponded to as well as responses within threads ignored and instead having replies to select members. This made it pointless for a while for anyone else to post as well as led to more lurkers. For once you have less lurkers and more posters which is a nice change. It comes with changes some don't care for. That is just part of change.

 

[Ghost]

I know of a few excellent posters who don't post here because of the elitist views. This one gentleman is an extremely knowledgable poster who knows a ton of inside stuff. It's a two way street.

Get him signed up!

I would echo a lot of what Orangezoo said from earlier - so I won't repost ALL OF IT. I've been around for close to 15 years and when I first joined the board was pretty unwelcoming to newbies. Then you sort of learned your way about about and joined in. I'm not sure if that was a better environment or worse. It was different though.

Overall though, I just find most of this to be nonsense. Threads get hijacked when they're pretty much not worthy of standing on their own or the hijack is indirectly invited (or directly invited).

For example, Tomcat's 'My Take' posts are a board favorite, and for good reason. They are a great mix of a recap, insight, and humor all blended together seamlessly. Typically the responses are all positive, and primarily basketball related, but they seem open to going in another direction because Tomcat is pretty hilarious - and people play off of that.

People on the boards also do a great job of thanking those people that do the little things so well. OE is probably under-appreciated a little for what he does every day, but I doubt a single member of this forum that has been here for more than a few years hasn't gone out of their way to thank him multiple times for doing such a spectacularly awesome job.

It's the same with any posts - if DickinMichigan started a thread with a basketball focused theme - it's going to stay in line. I just don't see where informative, insightful posts are being hijacked - and if it happens it happens rarely. People here are very good about expressing their appreciation and going back and forth when the topic itself is about hoops - and worthwhile.

Now, all the other threads just go where they go. If it's the 3rd Duke goes down to ND thread - yeah, one of those may get out of control. If the post is just a rehash, or ridiculous to begin with it's going to be a magical mystery tour and the stopping point could be anywhere. The "You'll Never Know Who You Run Into at the Dome" thread is a great example of that. Nobody is going to hijack that thread and start talking about Rak's lefty hook shot - so if you don't want to read ridiculous crap, or see funny pictures - skip it. It's that easy.

If Jake, or Francis, etc...(can't name everyone) starts a thread, or even a post, nobody is responding with "Hey, thanks Jake, here is a pic of a half-naked Jennifer Aniston! Woooooohooooo!" It just doesn't happen - so I'm not even sure what anyone is talking about in this thread, because I don't even see half this stuff that is being alluded to ever even occurring. And I hate most of you and would love to take you all apart one by one!!!!

 

[alphaorange]

I really want to know, where on earth have you seen people get ridiculed directed at people who don't want to participate, as you say? I have never seen that. The only "ridicule" I have seen is interplay between participants, or directed at UConn, because as my esteemed colleague Marsh says, .

And by the way, some of the "longer tenured posters" are willing participants in some of the revelry that apparently offends you. There are people who have been around this board an awfully long time who enjoy engaging in silliness now and then, and for the most part, it never detracts from the actual basketball talk that's thrown around throughout the course of the year. Some of the people who engage in the shenanigans offer some awfully valuable insight both in terms of Syracuse basketball in its current form, as well as its future with some terrific recruiting insight.

Such as Calicuse...lives and dies SU. He gets off course sometimes but hardly earns the crap he gets. Let me ask you: How much do you know about the man? There are others, too.

And Skippy, you should pump the brakes regarding what offends me as the point has seeming done a fly by on you. I don't recall mentioning silliness, and I believe I already said some of the posters I don't consistently care for occasionally offer up valuable insight and information. Just felt the need to engage, did you?

 

[jekelish]

Such as Calicuse...lives and dies SU. He gets off course sometimes but hardly earns the crap he gets. Let me ask you: How much do you know about the man? There are others, too.

You should pump the brakes, skippy. Regarding what offends me as the point has seeming done a fly by on you. I don't recall mentioning silliness, and I believe I already said some of the posters I don't consistently care for occasionally offer up valuable insight and information. Just felt the need to engage, did you?

What a condescending response. Are you kidding me, man? Skippy? Give me a freaking break.

But surely people like you are not part of the problem with you elitist attitudes. Try not to hurt yourself when you step down off of that insanely high horse.

 

[Orangezoo]

Such as Calicuse...lives and dies SU. He gets off course sometimes but hardly earns the crap he gets. Let me ask you: How much do you know about the man? There are others, too.

And Skippy, you should pump the brakes regarding what offends me as the point has seeming done a fly by on you. I don't recall mentioning silliness, and I believe I already said some of the posters I don't consistently care for occasionally offer up valuable insight and information. Just felt the need to engage, did you?

This is not the first time you have taken this tone alpha and there is no place for it. This response is as far from civil there could be an exactly an example of the bigger problem. You are upset with in your face posts and then you post one the most in your face responses in a while.

 

[edowd26]

I think everyone here needs to calm down. We are all on the same team here. Lets just all just agree to disagree. We get some people don't like other peoples stuff, but thats universal. quietly ignore one another and enjoy this forum the best way we each can. LGO.

 

[alphaorange]

What a condescending response. Are you kidding me, man? Skippy? Give me a freaking break.

But surely people like you are not part of the problem with you elitist attitudes. Try not to hurt yourself when you step down off of that insanely high horse.

My tone was off base and for that I am sorry. I assure you, I am far from elitist by anyone's measure.

 

[tee1222]

I think everyone here needs to calm down. We are all on the same team here. Lets just all just agree to disagree. We get some people don't like other peoples stuff, but thats universal. quietly ignore one another and enjoy this forum the best way we each can. LGO.

edowd, my bro.
where you go?

 

[Orangezoo]

Top 5 in hoops

Texas bowl champs with a fball program on the rise

greatest lacross program in the nation

One of the best fanbases in the country

And yet excuse my french but what the fluck are we doing complaining about the diversity on a message board. Every single one of us deserves a kick in the ass for getting on the complaint wagon about this including me. These are infinitesimal issues and personal choices. Lets move on and enjoy life for what it is vs the times its not so perfect.

 

[edowd26]

edowd, my bro.
where you go?

im here bro.

 

[MSOrange]

I think everyone here needs to calm down. We are all on the same team here. Lets just all just agree to disagree. We get some people don't like other peoples stuff, but thats universal. quietly ignore one another and enjoy this forum the best way we each can. LGO.

I think this is the bottom line. I haven't ignored too many posters but I do ignore many threads that don't interest me - mainly the UConn threads, the NBA threads (I hope our alums do well but I have no interested in discussing it to any great depth) and conference realignment (I am thrilled to be in the ACC but I have very little interest in discussing different scenarios, proposals etc ad nauseam)

 

[4evaOrange]

Going to keep my posting to a minimal from now on.

 

[tee1222]

im here bro.

Word.
Welcome back #heartandsoulofsigup

 

[tee1222]

Going to keep my posting to a minimal from now on.

Your post was blank. Or avatar. Or missing a board tournament tested hottie.
And don't do that. Need your rhythm. Need your rhyme.

 

[edowd26]

Word.
Welcome back #heartandsoulofsigup

i dunno about all that lol

 

[tee1222]

i dunno about all that lol

Do whatever you gotta do, I understand. For what it's worth, you're missed by everyone.

 

[edowd26]

Going to keep my posting to a minimal from now on.

that.

 

[jordoo]

I'm so frustrated because my wife is both HOT and SMART and I only wanted her to be HOT if she would just stop being so SMART around me I'd be much more content . . . . . . .until I found something else wrong with her. As a matter of fact I'd like to pick and chose my favorite aspects about everyone that I interact with and limit them to just that around me.

Wow that sounded really ridiculous almost as much as complaining that some posters are really insightful and post great stuff but some of there posts aren't what I really like. I am still shocked to read that sentiment in this thread. Its hard to even comprehend for me why should anyone be expected to post one sort of way all the time to please others. Maybe I'm the weird one. Who knows.

At this point I'd like to say again the board is great and I don't think there are really an problems.