Any chance we could expand this criteria, just a bit?
Ha, right now there is no recruiting class. Maybe they add some transfers in the offseason, which would be a good idea provided they have shown they can be productive
Ok that’s what you say. What should SU do?
This was the issue with Bowden at FSU as he kept going 8-3, 7-4 and wanting another year. And the school President TK Weatherall said, nope Gator Bowl is your final game.
Why would you give JB a buyout
Jim is going to lose his top 2 scorers this year, for sure. He is also going to lose Benny and Bell. Mintz will have a decision to make and Sy is probably gone as he's been around 4 years. He is potentially going to lose his entire starting 5 from the start of the year, his only other PG, he has ZERO commits for next year and barely uses the portal. Yes, it would be Herculean for him to get this turned around lol. Remind me why Jim should stick around another year?
Anything is possible! It’s possible our geriatric coach stumbles across the fountain of youth. It’s possible that we play m2m next season. Hell, it’s even possible I win the lottery.
That's my position, as well.
Let’s see. A guy who makes $Xmm a year and drives $10xMM in revenue and has competent counsel isn’t going to protect himself in the event of a termination without cause.
I can assure you with 1 year on his contract his buyout is not $10 million. Who is buying him out of it? Kentucky? the NBA? He's not in demand anywhere else in his 70s so his buyout would not be that high with the end being near if things became a disaster and the school had to fire him. You dont need to fire him for cause, it can be due to performance and you pay him off.
You would negotiate a 5-10 million dollar buyout for a 78 year old, who has been with the same program 47 years, that has struggled for the better part of a decade? Do you think he's a hot commodity within the coaching ranks?
I don't work for SU and I'm not one to scheme out stuff like this.
He can want to protect himself all he wants but Wildhack didn't have to give him one. If he did, JW should be fired immediately.
LOL that's my point. Not a single commit for next year, but hey it'll all get better cause Jim or something.
Fair enough. I don’t see what leverage JB had to make that sort of contract demand
You're answering your own question. Nobody is winning 25 games next year. Not Jim, not Red, not GMAC, not an outside hire. So why keep with the status quo and delay the inevitable? Again, I go back to my original point that it NEVER should have gotten to this. Never should have happened.
BINGO! It's a very simple negotiation.
Took the words right out of my mouth. It’s insane seeing some of the excuses continue to be stretched into unrealistic territory. A $10M buyout for a 78 year old coach who hasn’t jumped ship in 47 years. I mean, come on.
I'd love to see Jim's leverage in that negotiation. When he tells JW that he's going to explore his other opportunities lololololol
Well at least that’s an answer, pay the money (and accept the blowback from his supporters). I would note that SU has not paid the money to exit Dino, whose near term performance is worse.
The expectation wouldnt be to win 25 in year 1. It is to set the foundation for the future.
