For those are already to move on from Red

[Dcuse]

When it comes to autry , I don't care if they're traveling to games on pogo sticks, I've seen enough

Now, buses vs planes is relevant to evaluating recruiting for the next guy

Seen enough? Enough of what? You want him fired?

 

[two3zone]

TCU made Lampkin lose 70 pounds between his frosh and soph year. That year was also his best year ever.

Lampkin played with three NBA players last year.

Lampkin has not been and is not in shape.

All back injuries are serious, especially for someone his size, especially for someone his size and his fitness level.

Whatever 70 he lost he easily put on. He has to be 350.

 

[MikeSU02]

Whatever 70 he lost he easily put on. He has to be 350.

Yeah, I'm rooting for the guy, but seeing him in person just reinforced what I saw on tv - he is hurt and not in shape. Now, maybe his nagging injuries caused him to be out of shape, maybe it was the other way around, maybe they are independent of each other -- I don't know, but he is not in shape and hobbling around.

 

[two3zone]

Yeah, I'm rooting for the guy, but seeing him in person just reinforced what I saw on tv - he is hurt and not in shape. Now, maybe his nagging injuries caused him to be out of shape, maybe it was the other way around, maybe they are independent of each other -- I don't know, but he is not in shape and hobbling around.

He walks like i do at 45 and I feel pretty damn broken down at this point

 

[bnoro]

When I was working with Connecticut's WNBA team, the only place we'd travel by bus is to New York (roughly 2.5 hour ride with traffic). Always left either after practice the night before the game or two days before for a shootaround at Barclays. Then always bussed after. Eventually players/staff had the choice of traveling on their own. The bus rides back to CT were always terrible, so I can't even imagine the ride back to Syracuse.

Additionally, I know the landscape of the WNBA now, but it blows my mind that an ACC team that's arguably a top 15 program in the history of the sport doesn't have travel funding for this. So either they're playing the "it's a short enough trip on the bus you guys will be fine" or they really are saving money to spend it elsewhere

Comparing traffic between NYC and New Haven to traffic between NYC and Syracuse is hilarious.

It's taken me 4 hours for what should be a 2 hour drive from NYC to New Haven before. From NYC to Syracuse on 95% of days would be 4 hours at constant 65mph.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Maliq Brown played center for Duke against Kansas and got their All American Center ejected. I'd 100% take him at center this year over Lampkin.

I am just saying I'd rather have a pg than a center. I think we are seeing that play out this year.

well i wouldnt ...hes too small. had to foul 4 times in 17 minutes...hes not a center...hes a PF. besides, duke still lost anyway! and he got ABUSED in the post last year. how are people just conveniently forgetting this???

did you watch the clemson and duke games? the maui games??? when opponents brutalized the cuse in the post? the BC game? the va tech center going 9 for 9?

did you even watch the COLGATE GAMES???

in 2023 colgate had 38 points in the paint vs cuse...with brown...colgates starting forwards and center had 39 points!

in 2024, colgate only had 28 points in the paint (most of those by the PG cox off the dribble)...gate had 4 scorers in double digits...all of them GUARDS. meanwhile colgates forwards and centers did nothing in the game, basically.

vs colgate last year brown had 6 pts,...wow! really miss that production

lampkin had 15 and 12 vs colgate!!! but youd rather have Brown! got it.

did you not notice that this year opposing centers have been bottled up by a hobbled lampkin????

opponents have not done much in the post this year...because of lam[kin...yeah hes injured but so what

if you wanted to say ...you want brown at pf over freeman...thats the conversation...

i pick freeman there too though...

 

[DoctahLexus]

Maliq Brown played center for Duke against Kansas and got their All American Center ejected. I'd 100% take him at center this year over Lampkin.

I am just saying I'd rather have a pg than a center. I think we are seeing that play out this year.

I would rather have an excellent pg and bad center than an excellent center and bad pg. I am sure Red would also want that. But he has to adjust based on the returning roster this year, and options on the table in the portal.

Red clearly thought that with Lampkin's offensive post game/passing, we could get away with just a solid true pg who can run the offense and defend, while not being the most explosive scorer/shooter. Davis and Taylor were two defensive minded add ons that he thought could help with his deficiencies there. Unfortunately, Lampkin is dealing with a nagging injury and Carlos is failing to meet the expectations of even a mediocre pg. I fault Red for thinking Carlos would be enough, but I don't think it was some given that Lampkin would be dealing with an injury that effects his stamina, especially given that he played extended starting minutes consistently last season.

We also had more potential for a plan b at pg with JJ, and plan C with Westry, who I am sure Red thought would at least be healthy by now last April. Meanwhile Maliq, Benny, Taylor, Copeland, Carey, and Patterson are all out of the picture in the frontcourt, and McLeod has proven to be injury prone. There are lots of factors, not just him valuing center over pg in a vacuum.

 

[Ottoble]

First: Im not ready to move on from Red.

Second: if SU wants some revinue back sue the NY State over blackmailing Upstate Hospital and Medical School away from SU in the 50s. Think about the revinue, prestige, and endowment impact 70 years of owning a medical school, producing Doctors as alumni has on a university.

Syracuse University Medical School was one of the best in the country at the time. The NYS governor told SU if they didnt sell to the state he would spare no expense building a competing state medical school in Syracuse, building new facilities and stealing professors with statewide tax dollars. SU was already stretched by the post WWII veteran student population and didn't have the resources to fight an arms race with the state.

 

[bnoro]

First: Im not ready to move on from Red.

Second: if SU wants some revinue back sue the NY State over blackmailing Upstate Hospital and Medical School away from SU in the 50s. Think about the revinue, prestige, and endowment impact 70 years of owning a medical school, producing Doctors as alumni has on a university.

Syracuse University Medical School was one of the best in the country at the time. The NYS governor told SU if they didnt sell to the state he would spare no expense building a competing state medical school in Syracuse, building new facilities and stealing professors with statewide tax dollars. SU was already stretched by the post WWII veteran student population and didn't have the resources to fight an arms race with the state.

That's a fun historical fact I had NO idea about. Wow.

 

[Day2]

That's a fun historical fact I had NO idea about. Wow.

Me neither. If we still had the medical school, we would be in the Big 10 right now.

 

[Bulldog04]

So I am not rich, but if I donated $500 where would I get the most bang for my buck?

That’s a great question and I can ask Alex Kline and will PM you.

 

[two3zone]

And just so people know as well- Fran raised $5m the first week he was here. He didn’t sleep and went business to business and met with a lot of people to get things to where they are now for football. Alex and Red are out in the community Iike crazy, but they weren’t asking like Fran was asking. Until now and I expect them to continue to be upfront about what they need for the future

Is this a problem with Red and the boosters? He seems like an awesome guy and it seems criminal to give Fran 5 mil within a week and Red's been here outside of a bit since he was a teenager.

 

[rrlbees]

Is this a problem with Red and the boosters? He seems like an awesome guy and it seems criminal to give Fran 5 mil within a week and Red's been here outside of a bit since he was a teenager.

Has nothing to do with basketball. A large chunk of that was from people Fran knows that want to see him succeed.

 

[Bulldog04]

Is this a problem with Red and the boosters? He seems like an awesome guy and it seems criminal to give Fran 5 mil within a week and Red's been here outside of a bit since he was a teenager.

Alex Kline will help with this. It’s hard for a guy like Red who has lots of friends here in the community to “ask for” money from those people. Us as his friend need to just do without him asking. But Alex is going to be a big part of the asking from now on so that doesn’t rely solely on Red

 

[two3zone]

Has nothing to do with basketball. A large chunk of that was from people Fran knows that want to see him succeed.

Admittedly I don't know much about how he was hired and obviously someone got the parties together, was there a booster push for Brown to be hired?

 

[two3zone]

Alex Kline will help with this. It’s hard for a guy like Red who has lots of friends here in the community to “ask for” money from those people. Us as his friend need to just do without him asking. But Alex is going to be a big part of the asking from now on so that doesn’t rely solely on Red

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

 

[CardiacCuse]

I would rather have an excellent pg and bad center than an excellent center and bad pg. I am sure Red would also want that. But he has to adjust based on the returning roster this year, and options on the table in the portal.

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me too

but good thing thats not the only two options to choose from

 

[SimonSays]

how bad does this year have to be for us to question red after this year ? when i say question i mean fire. (ex: if we win 9-12 games do we stick with him no matter what)

 

[jdubs30]

how bad does this year have to be for us to question red after this year ? when i say question i mean fire. (ex: if we win 9-12 games do we stick with him no matter what)

With Sadiq and Kiyan coming in next year it’s very unlikely they make a move

 

[DocFlanders]

Long bus ride back to central NY from TN I guess

 

[OrlandoCuse]

With Sadiq and Kiyan coming in next year it’s very unlikely they make a move

Those two recruits aren’t reason enough to keep Red if he has a historically bad season, which appears to be where we are headed.

 

[Millhouse]

Seen enough? Enough of what? You want him fired?

Yes
Go ahead and act appalled whatever

 

[jdubs30]

Those two recruits aren’t reason enough to keep Red if he has a historically bad season, which appears to be where we are headed.

I hope you’re right. I am so done. It’s time for someone from the outside with some creativity and juice

 

[Jake]

Phil - don’t know why you keep saying the same thing over and over. Dakota was the plan. He committed. He backed out. Carlos was plan B. You act like this has been going on for decades with Red. JJ will play point soon like I said even months ago. Choppa needed to prove he can excel in key situations and he earned a lot of trust in Cornell game. Let’s see what happens the next 5 games

But the problem was the staff was telling everyone that Carlos was great.

He actually looked great in the exhibitions. It was hard to find detractors at that point.

Then the season started and we all had an oh moment.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Seen enough? Enough of what? You want him fired?

I haven't seen a man trying so hard to get fired since Costanza dragged the World Series Trophy through the Yankees parking lot.