Future Campus Framework Discussion

[CuseLegacy]

 

[OttoMets]

Harsh words between a crappy bar owner and a developer who's barely out of college. Nice stuff.

Probably comes down to money. Bar owner gets greedy, demands a lump sum, developer balks. He knows (or should know) he's got the leverage, because if that building doesn't come down in the next few weeks, the new building's not going to be ready for tenants in August 2018.

 

[SU68]

The bar owner should have been more careful with his language. If the developer now refuses him space in the new building, there aren't a lot of places on the Hill that the bar could relocate to.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

If I'm a Pennsylvania resident, I am adamant that not one penny of state taxes be used for this project.

No you wouldn't. As a NY resident you would object to NY dollars being spent on a stadium, but in PA, FB is king.

 

[longtimefan]

No you wouldn't. As a NY resident you would object to NY dollars being spent on a stadium, but in PA, FB is king.

Even with the pedo scandal still percolating in a courtroom right now?

 

[ForCuseSake]

Harsh words between a crappy bar owner and a developer who's barely out of college. Nice stuff.

Probably comes down to money. Bar owner gets greedy, demands a lump sum, developer balks. He knows (or should know) he's got the leverage, because if that building doesn't come down in the next few weeks, the new building's not going to be ready for tenants in August 2018.

Anybody else read that article and wonder how can an owner of a college dive bar truly care about his brand?!?

 

[FrancoPizza]

New York spending more than $200M on future home of German company near Utica

Suffice to say, if SU is smart, they'll recognize that state money is there for the taking. They just need to be creative with their pitch, emphasize the community benefit, and bury the dome renovation line item in a 300 page binder. Or say that part of the dome renovation will accomodate veterans housing.

 

[CuseOnly]

New York spending more than $200M on future home of German company near Utica

Suffice to say, if SU is smart, they'll recognize that state money is there for the taking. They just need to be creative with their pitch, emphasize the community benefit, and bury the dome renovation line item in a 300 page binder. Or say that part of the dome renovation will accomodate veterans housing.

Wait, is that article saying that NY State is spending $200 mil on a private company?

Going over all the responses I have seen on the board when the state spends tax dollars on private companies. Seems some think that spending tax dollars on private companies is OK everywhere else but when it comes to the Dome or the Syracuse area in general is not wanted even if it benefits the community. Which the Dome would and has since it was built.

1 - Say it ain't so
2 - that's not supposed to happen and a long shot
3 - Not my tax dollars, MY tax dollars are better spent on something else
4 - They shouldn't be doing that here but in Utica it's OK
5 - they would never spend that kind of $$ on a private university
etc
etc.

Point is, it happens all the time and should happen here.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Governing Procedures, Capital Project Needs Assessment Process and Summer Construction Planning Among the Agenda Items during Second CFAB Meeting

Governing Procedures, Capital Project Needs Assessment Process and Summer Construction Planning Among the Agenda Items during Second CFAB Meeting
Thursday, March 23, 2017, By News Staff



Campus Framework
The members of the Campus Facilities Advisory Board (CFAB) assembled on Wednesday, March 22, at the Office of Campus Planning, Design and Construction for the board’s second meeting since it was announced on Jan. 26. The CFAB, co-chaired by Michele G. Wheatly, vice chancellor and provost, and Pete Sala, vice president and chief facilities officer, is charged with assessing all academic and non-academic investments and ensuring alignment between the Academic Strategic Plan and the Campus Framework.

The board co-chairs, along with Cathryn Newton, special advisor to the Chancellor and the Provost and lead faculty advisor to the board, facilitated an hourlong discussion, during which the board focused on a number of important items. Chief among them was reviewing, discussing and voting on proposed governing procedures. The governing procedures, which were approved unanimously, will help guide the board’s decision-making and voting processes; dictate the frequency and length of meetings; and provide parameters for determining how to appoint subcommittees, should they be deemed necessary.

“As this board is still very much in its early stages, it is critical that we put governing policies, procedures and processes into place that all members agree upon and support,” says Sala. “I was pleased by the thoughtful dialogue around how this board will govern itself and appreciate the candor and collegiality this board has already demonstrated.”

Yesterday’s agenda also included a presentation by Joe Alfieri, director of campus planning, about the capital project needs assessment process and an overview of the summer construction project recommendations. Among those recommendations are significant renovations to a number of campus facilities with considerable deferred maintenance; utility maintenance and upgrades in academic buildings, residence halls and under roadways; and substantial accessibility improvements, particularly related to vertical transportation in several buildings, including Archbold/Flanagan Gymnasium and Maxwell. The recommended summer construction projects remain under consideration at this time. A vote on the recommendations is likely forthcoming.

To learn more about the Campus Framework, visit CampusFramework.syr.edu. To read the Academic Strategic Plan, visit fastforward.syr.edu/strategic-plan/.

 

[Toga]

Governing Procedures, Capital Project Needs Assessment Process and Summer Construction Planning Among the Agenda Items during Second CFAB Meeting

Governing Procedures, Capital Project Needs Assessment Process and Summer Construction Planning Among the Agenda Items during Second CFAB Meeting
Thursday, March 23, 2017, By News Staff



Campus Framework
The members of the Campus Facilities Advisory Board (CFAB) assembled on Wednesday, March 22, at the Office of Campus Planning, Design and Construction for the board’s second meeting since it was announced on Jan. 26. The CFAB, co-chaired by Michele G. Wheatly, vice chancellor and provost, and Pete Sala, vice president and chief facilities officer, is charged with assessing all academic and non-academic investments and ensuring alignment between the Academic Strategic Plan and the Campus Framework.

The board co-chairs, along with Cathryn Newton, special advisor to the Chancellor and the Provost and lead faculty advisor to the board, facilitated an hourlong discussion, during which the board focused on a number of important items. Chief among them was reviewing, discussing and voting on proposed governing procedures. The governing procedures, which were approved unanimously, will help guide the board’s decision-making and voting processes; dictate the frequency and length of meetings; and provide parameters for determining how to appoint subcommittees, should they be deemed necessary.

“As this board is still very much in its early stages, it is critical that we put governing policies, procedures and processes into place that all members agree upon and support,” says Sala. “I was pleased by the thoughtful dialogue around how this board will govern itself and appreciate the candor and collegiality this board has already demonstrated.”

Yesterday’s agenda also included a presentation by Joe Alfieri, director of campus planning, about the capital project needs assessment process and an overview of the summer construction project recommendations. Among those recommendations are significant renovations to a number of campus facilities with considerable deferred maintenance; utility maintenance and upgrades in academic buildings, residence halls and under roadways; and substantial accessibility improvements, particularly related to vertical transportation in several buildings, including Archbold/Flanagan Gymnasium and Maxwell. The recommended summer construction projects remain under consideration at this time. A vote on the recommendations is likely forthcoming.

To learn more about the Campus Framework, visit CampusFramework.syr.edu. To read the Academic Strategic Plan, visit fastforward.syr.edu/strategic-plan/.

Very much in the early stages. Aaaaaaargh

 

[shandeezy7]

Anybody else read that article and wonder how can an owner of a college dive bar truly care about his brand?!?

 

[shandeezy7]

 

[chakka3421]

Bearer of bad news here...looks like they will be just replacing the roof with new fabric and kicking the can down the road to the next admin or two.

 

[TexanMark]

 

[oldpinepoint]

Bearer of bad news here...looks like they will be just replacing the roof with new fabric and kicking the can down the road to the next admin or two.

What's the reason? Do they know the Dome is a horrible game experience?

 

[Toga]

 

[Toga]

Hello mediocrity my old friend. You've come to talk with me again.

 

[Orangefizz]

What's the reason? Do they know the Dome is a horrible game experience?

Sounds like the money was not there; very disappointed. SU bean counters probably feel it's cheaper to put money into the football staff/recruiting budget. The fans will return when there is a special product on the field, even with pee troughs and bench seating. For those old enough to remember the dome was electric during the later Mac and early P years. If you're not that old check out some YouTube home games from that era

 

[Fly Rodder]

Not surprised. This is such a backwater when it comes to forward thinking and development.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

Sounds like a real recruiting bonanza. I hope this doesn't speed up Dino's departure timetable. It certainly doesn't help. Negative? Yeah, I'll plead guilty.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Well that was depressing.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

Sounds like the money was not there; very disappointed. SU bean counters probably feel it's cheaper to put money into the football staff/recruiting budget. The fans will return when there is a special product on the field, even with pee troughs and bench seating. For those old enough to remember the dome was electric during the later Mac and early P years. If you're not that old check out some YouTube home games from that era

I understand the War Memorial used to be electric in the mid-1950s also. Doesn't mean it isn't a liability today. Is the Dome in the same category as the War Memorial yet? No, but give it 20 years or so. Hope I'm still around to see SU kick the can a further 20 years down the road in 2037.

 

[DoubleDee]

Sounds like the money was not there; very disappointed. SU bean counters probably feel it's cheaper to put money into the football staff/recruiting budget. The fans will return when there is a special product on the field, even with pee troughs and bench seating. For those old enough to remember the dome was electric during the later Mac and early P years. If you're not that old check out some YouTube home games from that era

This is a super let down, but benches and pee troughs are the least of my concern. Most stadiums including Alabama have benches, and as long as I have a quick piss option, I don't care what the hole looks like. I want to get back to the game.

 

[tipphill]

Sounds like the money was not there; very disappointed. SU bean counters probably feel it's cheaper to put money into the football staff/recruiting budget. The fans will return when there is a special product on the field, even with pee troughs and bench seating. For those old enough to remember the dome was electric during the later Mac and early P years. If you're not that old check out some YouTube home games from that era

some of us are old enough to remember when archbold was electric and the game day experience in "september and most october" was great. signs all over the place on fraternities sororities, hanging out windows on dorms etc etc etc.--we have said all this before.

 

[bnoro]

Thanks a lot, Miner.