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I have to laugh at this entire thread. E-sports has been around for many years. SU is way behind the 8 ball on this. My son has been in the video game business for years. I watched e-sports tournaments with him at least 15 years ago. His company at one point made most of the esports games. During COVID he did a lot of work to make the esports games remote.
I'm happy for his success- but nothing you've described required a college campus to accomplish or explains how an esports team benefits the university in anyway.
 
I'm happy for his success- but nothing you've described required a college campus to accomplish or explains how an esports team benefits the university in anyway.
How does a marching band benefit the school? Or cheerleaders?
 
School spirit is actually insanely beneficial to a student's education and development.
Bull. The vast majority of SU students don’t care about the sports teams. By your logic I could surmise that MIT must have a great band and cheerleaders.
 
sports is absolutely part of the business model. football programs are the largest revenue generators of power five programs. basketball is second, but there's a big delta.

There's a reason why football coaches are the highest paid state employees in many states

i agree that sports shouldn't be the mission of the university, but they can generate revenue and attention to support that mission. Esports neither supports the mission more than any other sport or provides the revenue that other sports- say rowing, lacrosse, field hockey, or soccer - could.
There are other similar articles as well, but all say the same; most schools lose money to athletics. In this article, it is to the tune of $16 million per school on average. It suggests that only about 25 schools make any money on athletics, and that’s about $7 million on average. I guess you’re right about it being part of the business model, they have to plan in how to overcome the loss. I never argued that they don’t bring attention, but the revenue side is slim pickings.

 
all schools lost money on sports for about 75 yrs and no one seemed to care.

The biggest difference is the costs went way up to support it.
 
There’s a reason that applications rise dramatically as their college sports teams win, they even gave it a name, the Flutie effect. Colleges flourish with winning major athletic teams,

 
I'm happy for his success- but nothing you've described required a college campus to accomplish or explains how an esports team benefits the university in anyway.
College campuses have had teams for several years, including SU. There is really nothing special in any degree programs that I can think of. The business aspect was already covered by business degrees, the games are done by companies like Activision (who my son works for), the broadcasts have been done for about 20 years and any communications degree would cover all aspects of broadcastings the games. And honestly we are not really the first school to cover this is some form. When we first put the room in Barnes, my son found that humorous as it was way behind the times. Many schools already had this type of thing. As a general rule he is not involved in this aspect. But during COVID he was. He is a Director of Technology for Activision/Microsoft, mostly Call of Duty.
 
There’s a reason that applications rise dramatically as their college sports teams win, they even gave it a name, the Flutie effect. Colleges flourish with winning major athletic teams,

Chancellor knows this. It’s why he’s trying to keep us relevant in collegiate athletics. Those that say otherwise are simply wrong or uninformed.

Also, we’re about to experience a significant drop in college aged students, so competition for enrollment is only getting more intense. It’s paramount the mouse trap continues to get stronger for SU. Perhaps e-sports will help
 
I think there’s a big piece of this people are not understanding. Even though ESports has sports in the name, it’s not tied into the athletic department… similar to Club Sports, theater, dance groups, etc. similar to investing in the Barnes center recently for kids interested in fitness,

Unless you’re also going to gripe about how money is spent to each of those areas at the university, you can’t single this one out.

Esports definitely isn’t my thing, not a fan of video games in general and have some societal concerns with their impact. But all that said it’s an extremely popular thing that probably benefits the school at large.
 
Bull. The vast majority of SU students don’t care about the sports teams. By your logic I could surmise that MIT must have a great band and cheerleaders.

That's part of Syracuse's problem because the vast majority of students at factories do care.
 
School spirit is actually insanely beneficial to a student's education and development.
If not for nostalgia, both the band and cheerleaders would be non-existent nowadays.
 

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