Future Campus Framework Discussion

[TexanMark]

Agree.

It is a terrific location. Not sure about where people will park but I really like the design. It fits in with the existing buildings and actually looks tasteful and attractive. A big rooftop bar is going to be really popular on nice summer nights.

They are incorporating a 3 story parking garage into the building. Apparently they want to keep the 1960s retro vertical "P A R K" letters for the new hotel.

 

[sutomcat]

They are incorporating a 3 story parking garage into the building. Apparently they want to keep the 1960s retro vertical "P A R K" letters for the new hotel.

I like the funky homage to the old days.

Especially given there is actually parking inside...

 

[FrancoPizza]

Surprised they will try to give this a local branding which contrasts the Hotel Syracuse relabeled as a Marriott.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

They are incorporating a 3 story parking garage into the building. Apparently they want to keep the 1960s retro vertical "P A R K" letters for the new hotel.

 

[Consigliere]

Surprised they will try to give this a local branding which contrasts the Hotel Syracuse relabeled as a Marriott.

It will be part of Hilton's Curio Collection. They give these properties an independent, boutique-y feel.

 

[TexanMark]

It will be part of Hilton's Curio Collection. They give these properties an independent, boutique-y feel.

Plus certain folks I know have lots of Hilton Points ready to use.

 

[Consigliere]

Plus certain folks I know have lots of Hilton Points ready to use.

Just went under 2 million booking a couple nights in Florida

 

[richmondcuse03]

Plus certain folks I know have lots of Hilton Points ready to use.

As long as he trades them for a Marriott property in Pittsburgh for the next tailgate

 

[TexanMark]

Just went under 2 million booking a couple nights in Florida

Oh No! Welcome to the "Po Side of Town"

 

[jr4750]

Interesting stats to culminate the capital campaign:

• The University’s endowment more than doubled to $2.1 billion.
• The amount of financial support available to students dramatically increased due to the creation of more than 800 new scholarships.
• Bolstered by the Faculty Excellence Program, 117 faculty positions and fellowships were created, helping to advance Syracuse’s status as a top-tier international research university.
• The schools, colleges and special units received more than $1.3 billion in direct support.
• The Lender Center for Social Justice and the Institute for Democracy, Journalism and Citizenship in Washington, D.C., were established.
• More than 200,000 veterans and members of the military-connected community benefited from the learning opportunities and programs offered through the D’Aniello Institute for Veterans and Military Families.
• The S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications was the recipient of the largest gift in Syracuse’s history from the Newhouse family, cementing its position as the premier public communications school in the country.

 

[shandeezy7]

Not really campus-related, but more hotel rooms coming back online in the area is a good thing:

2 years after closing, Syracuse-area hotel is making a comeback with its original name

The reopening will put 197 hotel rooms back into the Syracuse market.

www.syracuse.com

 

[orange79]

Video that shows Kimmel and Marion being demolished to make way for two new residence halls.

 

[0.2 YNdeeR]

Video that shows Kimmel and Marion being demolished to make way for two new residence halls.

Progress is great, and residence capacity is needed. But they couldn't use any portion of those steel/brick structures?

 

[baggerbob]

Progress is great, and residence capacity is needed. But they couldn't use any portion of those steel/brick structures?

Probably coding problems with new building permits.

 

[NJCuse97]

Probably coding problems with new building permits.

Most likely the floor plates are not conducive to an efficient layout (maximum rooms) with today’s dorm room “standards”. Also, and equally as likely, they intend to build up (think Ernie Davis Hall) and the foundations for these 2-4 floor buildings were not able to handle the additional load of another 4-6 floors atop them.

 

[Sudano]

Progress is great, and residence capacity is needed. But they couldn't use any portion of those steel/brick structures?

No

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Most likely the floor plates are not conducive to an efficient layout (maximum rooms) with today’s dorm room “standards”. Also, and equally as likely, they intend to build up (think Ernie Davis Hall) and the foundations for these 2-4 floor buildings were not able to handle the additional load of another 4-6 floors atop them.

There are also Draconian requirements for upgrading if you are expanding by more than X% of an existing residential structure. One of the reasons we never added on to our previous home.

 

[NJCuse97]

There are also Draconian requirements for upgrading if you are expanding by more than X% of an existing residential structure. One of the reasons we never added on to our previous home.

Assume you are referring to code based performance requirements, like energy performance and accessibility requirements that you would have to bring the building up to if the value of the project exceeds 50% (I don’t recall the actual percentage limit) of the replacement cost.

 

[hoopsupstate]

When are we going to get a video of the new football facility? Sidwar said it just opened.

 

[sutomcat]

When are we going to get a video of the new football facility? Sidwar said it just opened.

Good question. I think we are all anxious to see how things ended up.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Iconic Syracuse music venue demolished: Look back on Jabberwocky’s sticky, sweaty, glorious history

Syracuse music club Jabberwocky was open from 1969 to 1985. Here, “the music always came first.”

www.syracuse.com

 

[rocklloyd]

Iconic Syracuse music venue demolished: Look back on Jabberwocky’s sticky, sweaty, glorious history

Syracuse music club Jabberwocky was open from 1969 to 1985. Here, “the music always came first.”

www.syracuse.com

I didn’t get on campus until 87. Wasn’t there a jabberwocky in basement of schine after it was built. My memory is fuzzy.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I didn’t get on campus until 87. Wasn’t there a jabberwocky in basement of schine after it was built. My memory is fuzzy.

Built 25 years ago to fulfill a need for a student hub, Schine was once a gem but is now lackluster

Smoking in the food court. Dancing at a club until 4 a.m. Crashing walls in the bookstore. Welcome to Schine Student Center in the 1980s.…

dailyorange.com

A club called the Milky Way in the lower level of Schine was supposed to replace the Jabberwocky, a club known for its alcohol-filled happy hours and musical performances. The Jabberwocky, which was located in what is now the computer lab beneath Kimmel Food Court, hosted the likes of James Taylor, who sang ‘Fire and Rain,’ and Cyndi Lauper, remembered for her hit ‘Time After Time.’

‘It was legendary in that there were people who performed there early in their careers and went on to great success,’ Peters said.

But the 270-capacity student-run club constantly faced financial difficulties, and the manager chose to move it into a larger, 400-seat venue at Schine, where he renamed it the Milky Way. Unlike the old club, this one would not serve alcohol, and it was difficult to anticipate how many students would want to come to the club without the option of drinking, Peters said.

The original designs for the Milky Way called for disco balls, built-in fish tanks and flashing lights, but the club ended up running $30,000 over its $100,000 budget, according to an article published in The Daily Orange on Jan. 25, 1989. The club still opened in February 1986, staying open until 4 a.m. on Fridays and Saturdays and 2 a.m. on Wednesdays and Thursdays.

But trying to replace the Jabberwocky with the Milky Way didn’t work out well, said Mary O’Brien, reference archivist at E.S. Bird Library. On the Milky Way’s opening night, there were 25 people on the dance floor at most, including Peters, according to an article published in The Daily Orange on Feb. 10, 1986.

‘The Jabberwocky was the Jabberwocky,’ O’Brien said. ‘It can’t really be recreated.’

In summer 1988, the Milky Way was renovated and renamed to what it is known as today: the Underground. A rewired sound system and revamped lighting were added to the room, which alternated between a snack bar during the day and concert hall at night. Though Schine includes a space called the Jabberwocky, that part is used as a study space and for small musical performances by students.

 

[Consigliere]

Iconic Syracuse music venue demolished: Look back on Jabberwocky’s sticky, sweaty, glorious history

Syracuse music club Jabberwocky was open from 1969 to 1985. Here, “the music always came first.”

www.syracuse.com

I played in the SU Jazz Workshop from ‘74-78. We played the Jab at least once a semester. Always a highlight!

 

[GreekFreak]

Iconic Syracuse music venue demolished: Look back on Jabberwocky’s sticky, sweaty, glorious history

Syracuse music club Jabberwocky was open from 1969 to 1985. Here, “the music always came first.”

www.syracuse.com

Man does that bring back some memories. Friday happy hour from 3 - 5 and I believe the drinks were 2 for a dollar or something else ridiculously low. The downside was being trashed at 5:00 to start the weekend. That place was like being in dungeon.