Future Campus Framework Presentation...

[NJCuse97]

The sawtooth is the portion on the right side of the roof here. The windows face north (the short side of the tooth).

The windows here do not quite face north, rather more east/west. That would make it brighter with more temperature swings in the morning and evening. Because there is so much roof, the amount of light let in is actually minimal.

 

[FrancoPizza]

The sawtooth is the portion on the right side of the roof here. The windows face north (the short side of the tooth).

The windows here do not quite face north, rather more east/west. That would make it brighter with more temperature swings in the morning and evening. Because there is so much roof, the amount of light let in is actually minimal.

I hope you're not suggesting the new roof interior will look like that. The current bubble lets in a lot more natural light than that ugly crap.

 

[Toga]

So for all of you A&E types and wannabees - we are looking at a 4 year endeavor. Based on what we know - what do you see as major components for each of the years? In what year do you see the cool stuff like the roof and LED?

 

[GoSU96]

Wait, where is all of the parking encircling the venue? How can Vikings fans possibly tailgate there? Oh the humanity!

Looks like they won't be, or at least easily.

http://www.startribune.com/vikings-...ng-space-around-downtown-stadium/368859111/#1

 

[CuseLegacy]

So for all of you A&E types and wannabees - we are looking at a 4 year endeavor. Based on what we know - what do you see as major components for each of the years? In what year do you see the cool stuff like the roof and LED?

I think people are getting confused. The four year was MSG. No timeline has been stated for The Dome renovation.

 

[OttoMets]

So for all of you A&E types and wannabees - we are looking at a 4 year endeavor. Based on what we know - what do you see as major components for each of the years? In what year do you see the cool stuff like the roof and LED?

Wannabe here. I posted on this a few months ago and think that was a pretty fair prediction: structural steel the first year, roof the second, interior work during the second and possibly third years.

Then clumsy attempts at landscaping for Years 4-10, because, hey, this is SU.

 

[Toga]

I think people are getting confused. The four year was MSG. No timeline has been stated for The Dome renovation.

You sure?

 

[xc84]

That somewhat contradicts Pete saying the shell will be supported by existing columns.

The new roof does not necessarily have to cover the entire structure even if Sala said the roof footprint stays the same. A separate roof could cover any perimeter build-out.

 

[xc84]

You sure?

Yup. No timeline so far.

 

[CuseLegacy]

You sure?

Hey I am old... I am never sure of anything. But I don't recall seeing a timeline in that article about not interfering with the BB and FB season.

 

[Toga]

Assuming a construction season of about late March to Labor Day - how plausible is it to have 12 hour days - 7 days a week?

 

[reedny]

The sawtooth is the portion on the right side of the roof here. The windows face north (the short side of the tooth).

The windows here do not quite face north, rather more east/west. That would make it brighter with more temperature swings in the morning and evening. Because there is so much roof, the amount of light let in is actually minimal.

What do you see as a possible timeline for this project ... knowing that, at a minimum: 1) they're not going to re-schedule any FB or BB games; 2) the project includes a new roof; and 3) changes to the exterior walls will be included to let in more light?

 

[OttoMets]

Here's an interesting article that I haven't seen before: http://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/sports/a19066/minnesota-viking-football-stadium-roof/

 

[reedny]

You sure?

Probably only take a few months, since the steel work won't be complicated.

 

[Toga]

Probably only take a few months, since the steel work won't be complicated. View attachment 63924

Pictures like this always freaked me out. As a further aside - the Mohawk have a history of steel work on skyscrapers.

 

[xc84]

The timeframe and the schedule for the construction on the Carrier Dome has not been determined yet.

"We still haven't defined the schedule," Sala said. "We're trying to work with Populous and Turner. We're working through some of the programming inside the building. There's no defined timeline. We're still looking to get a guaranteed maximum price."

http://www.syracuse.com/orangesport...rsation_with_syracuses_pe.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

[shandeezy7]

I really wish that, if it was possible to do this in a year, they just bit the bullet and moved all sports out of the dome for a year. It would def suck, but I think it'd be worth it. Perhaps a 1 year, uninterrupted timetable isn't possible though, making this discussion moot.

 

[PhatOrange]

That somewhat contradicts Pete saying the shell will be supported by existing columns.

i still think the old concrete columns will act as support for the new roof, but i could envision a steel outer shell being added to help support a cantilevered roof.

The interior ring stays the same but you can still build out. (though building up is cheaper than building out and up) which is probably why this doesn't happen.

It's hard for me to see a scenario to add all these things without building out though. Hoiwever I can picture stairs, escalators/elevators on the outside of the existing structure. Would be cheaper to add/cover these things with say glass/ETF, in spots on the outside of the existing dome rather than to build a completely new shell.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I really wish that, if it was possible to do this in a year, they just bit the bullet and moved all sports out of the dome for a year. It would def suck, but I think it'd be worth it. Perhaps a 1 year, uninterrupted timetable isn't possible though, making this discussion moot.

Do you kick JB out for his last year, or kick Hop out for his first

And I'm sure Dino will be thrilled.

 

[Whitey23]

Pictures like this always freaked me out. As a further aside - the Mohawk have a history of steel work on skyscrapers.

 

[sutomcat]

My understanding is that the existing concrete columns couldn't possibly support a steel/ETFE roof, forget about also supporting the existing roof during the transition period.

Not an engineer but I can't believe that is even close to being possible.

Am I crazy? C'mon engineers, step up and weigh in.

 

[FrancoPizza]

i still think the old concrete columns will act as support for the new roof, but i could envision a steel outer shell being added to help support a cantilevered roof.

The interior ring stays the same but you can still build out. (though building up is cheaper than building out and up) which is probably why this doesn't happen.

It's hard for me to see a scenario to add all these things without building out though. Hoiwever I can picture stairs, escalators/elevators on the outside of the existing structure. Would be cheaper to add/cover these things with say glass/ETF, in spots on the outside of the existing dome rather than to build a completely new shell.

All I know is that multiple experts here, with knowledge of the construction business and structural engineering, insisted that any new roof could not rest on the existing dome infrastructure. I'm paraphrasing, but they claimed the existing columns were engineered to support a lightweight roof with most of the load-bearing minimized due to the air support. As such, huge trusses would need to be established on the perimeter.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Pictures like this always freaked me out. As a further aside - the Mohawk have a history of steel work on skyscrapers.

God bless that generation. Fast forward to 2016, imagine the lawsuits and demands for apologies to excuse such horrible and unsafe work practices. I reek every time I hear that this is the "most tolerant generation". Bunch of .

 

[reedny]

I hope you're not suggesting the new roof interior will look like that. The current bubble lets in a lot more natural light than that ugly crap.

I believe he's just showing this to illustrate the sawtooth roof and the orientation.

 

[rrlbees]

Pictures like this always freaked me out. As a further aside - the Mohawk have a history of steel work on skyscrapers.

That pic sent chills up and down my legs and spine.