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[boilerD]

I know no one on your defense. And the only teams that seem to succeed in the Big 10 West are Iowa, Wisconsin, and Northwestern in previous even numbered years. So.

Also, that monster TV deal the Big 10 is getting isn't because of Purdue, my friend.

Purdue plays a polar opposite style to the rest of the big ten on offense. Your defense would work wonders against Iowa though because Spencer petras couldn’t hit your phone from your face

 

[texascpa]

Purdue plays a polar opposite style to the rest of the big ten on offense. Your defense would work wonders against Iowa though because Spencer petras couldn’t hit your phone from your face

boilerD, what's the main board for Purdue that's not a pay board?

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

Purdue plays a polar opposite style to the rest of the big ten on offense. Your defense would work wonders against Iowa though because Spencer petras couldn’t hit your phone from your face

Iowa actually plays on national TV sometimes instead of the exclusively on the Big 10 Network, so I'm more familiar with them.

 

[boilerD]

Dude its not a straw man,. your a Purdue fan who keeps bringing up PSU's defense and d-line as example of how SU will struggle and keep acting like they have a top 5 defense in th country.

PSU is a slightly above average team who wasn't even ranked last week. If you think our DL is going to be an issue thats fine you can just say that without this biarre comparison to Penn State where your esentially jizzing over their defense. Most of us think our D-line is going to be an issue against the tougher opponents on our schedule you can see it mentioned in numerous posts going back to the summer. I think I ahve said it 2 or 3 times in this thread that our D-line isn't Penn States, not sure how many more ways I can say that. As for Illinois, we know all about that QB, trust me it wouldn't be a struggle.

I have no idea what your last sentence means or the point.

The big glaring difference between them and you guys is the DL. There’s is a strength and explosive for a large size. Yours is small. There will be back 8 players getting sucked to the LOS. That’s not good against an offense like Purdue’s.

If you don’t disagree with the above what’s the issue …

 

[boilerD]

boilerD, what's the main board for Purdue that's not a pay board?

Rivals boilermaker football ..

 

[Bayside44]

That’s because you’re a professional straw man guy.

Bizarre fan interaction? I’m telling you your DL is gonna be an issue. It would be against Illinois. All you can do is keep whooping alabama lol.

If it helps you feel better, the list of people who think Purdue penn state wasn’t as close as it gets is very small

If we played Illinois we can count on their QB throwing it out of bounds 15x...

 

[JeremyCuse]

The big glaring difference between them and you guys is the DL. There’s is a strength and explosive for a large size. Yours is small. There will be back 8 players getting sucked to the LOS. That’s not good against an offense like Purdue’s.

If you don’t disagree with the above what’s the issue …

I really don't disagree, SU's d-line from a DT is smaller and certainly not nearly as strong as PSU's. SU's DE's are fine from a size perspective but I would say yes there not on the level of PSU's. That said our secondary is unlikely to get sucked in reguarly to help because Purdue rarely runs the ball and its not exactly a strength of your team.

 

[boilerD]

If we played Illinois we can count on their QB throwing it out of bounds 15x...

Just a different style of ball

 

[ForCuseSake]

The big glaring difference between them and you guys is the DL. There’s is a strength and explosive for a large size. Yours is small. There will be back 8 players getting sucked to the LOS. That’s not good against an offense like Purdue’s.

If you don’t disagree with the above what’s the issue …

We're mostly okay with our 3-3 guys getting sucked to the LOS.

We'll probably even throw in a safety or Rover on occasion because we've got 2 strong perimeter CBs that do reasonably well when put on islands.

So while you're comfy with the idea of smashing our diminutive DL, we're confident our DC will figure out a way to help our guys pick some passes off.

Win/win for us.

 

[boilerD]

I really don't disagree, SU's d-line from a DT is smaller and certainly not nearly as strong as PSU's. SU's DE's are fine from a size perspective but I would say yes there not on the level of PSU's. That said othey are unlikely to get sucked in because Purdue rarely runs the ball and its not exactly a strength of your team.

Check out some games from 2018. Brohm absolutely has that in his dna. When hazells guys graduated he had to build an OL from scratch. They can’t push big ten DLs. But 233 270 and 268 is much much smaller than even the smallest big ten DL. If you’re expecting him not to get to 130 quick (like 2018) and not to have a game plan that establishes the run and then plays off of that, you may be in for a rude awakening.

It’s like saying passing isn’t a strength for Illinois .. well, if you run some of the slowest corners in p5 out there you don’t think Illinois would pass and make you widen your linebackers out amd play 2 high

 

[Trueblue25]

Garrett Williams and Duce were both freshman AA’s.

Garrett’s the only player to ever pick 6 Trev Lawrence, he’s not sweating O’Connell imo.

In regards to QB’s our cb’s have played? Kenny Pickett, Leary, Hartman, Cunningham etc etc etc

O’Connell’s a great QB but our CB’s are seasoned. It’ll be a good matchup and exciting to watch.

 

[JackBauer44]

The big glaring difference between them and you guys is the DL. There’s is a strength and explosive for a large size. Yours is small. There will be back 8 players getting sucked to the LOS. That’s not good against an offense like Purdue’s.

If you don’t disagree with the above what’s the issue …

In a vacuum this is correct - but that’s the difference between defensive styles and game plans.

Im not sure how much you’re a football guy, but in a 3-3-5 defense (like Syracuse runs) - 290 DLmen are not the preference. You’re obsessed with the stats of our linemen, but not sure you understand that why that really doesn’t matter as much as you’re making it seem, especially against a passing team like Purdue.

You’re going to see lots of different movement on the DL, combined with pressure from LBs and DBs. They are going to force offensive linemen to think and scheme pressure. If Purdue wants to go under center and run the ball down our throat because our linemen are 260, that’s a different convo.

I’m honestly not sure if you’re trolling or not. It’s very odd reading this thread.

 

[boilerD]

We're mostly okay with our 3-3 guys getting sucked to the LOS.

We'll probably even throw in a safety or Rover on occasion because we've got 2 strong perimeter CBs that do reasonably well when put on islands.

So while you're comfy with the idea of smashing our diminutive DL, we're confident our DC will figure out a way to help our guys pick some passes off.

Win/win for us.

It not just the outside guys lol. Run the corners out and hit the flats and intermediate zones. My prediction is Jones only gets about 65 yards and maybe rice 40. Then Tracy, Sheffield, Durham and the backs get the rest of the yards. Syracuse is going to have to pick their poison. The play action is going to spring Durham, Sheffield, Burks, Tracy etc for big gainers. Not rice, Jones, Sullivan, Thompson, terrell etc

 

[boilerD]

Garrett Williams and Duce were both freshman AA’s.

Garrett’s the only player to ever pick 6 Trev Lawrence, he’s not sweating O’Connell imo.

In regards to QB’s our cb’s have played? Kenny Pickett, Leary, Hartman, Cunningham etc etc etc

O’Connell’s a great QB but our CB’s are seasoned. It’ll be a good matchup and exciting to watch.

I don’t think the yards come to the deep outside. It’s gonna be a second level yac game not a deep passing game, specifically because of your corners.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Check out some games from 2018. Brohm absolutely has that in his dna. When hazells guys graduated he had to build an OL from scratch. They can’t push big ten DLs. But 233 270 and 268 is much much smaller than even the smallest big ten DL. If you’re expecting him not to get to 130 quick (like 2018) and not to have a game plan that establishes the run and then plays off of that, you may be in for a rude awakening.

It’s like saying passing isn’t a strength for Illinois .. well, if you run some of the slowest corners in p5 out there you don’t think Illinois would pass and make you widen your linebackers out amd play 2 high

I am sure he "wants" to establish the run but the key is what is SU going to do to try and disrupt it? If you think were just going to send 233, 270 and 268 into your O-line blindly without help, stunts or other approaches you may be in for a rude awakening. Will Purdue break off some good size or big runs throughout the course of the game, highly likely. Will Purdue be able to run the ball effectively and stick with it over the course of the game, much different question.

 

[suorange08]

Keep going after “on the DL”.. it should continue with “and yes a much bigger penn state DL is as explosive as ours, so.. that’s a problem.”

Your DL may be explosive for their size. Penn states is explosive for having very large size. The idea that you won’t have players they have to commit to the LOS is just wishing.

Want to see me not wish because I’m a Purdue fan.

Our starting DEs have no burst to the QB. Either nic caraway will have to continue to progress or our back seven better be ready for a fight.

If I was you.. guys… I’d just be like “our DEs have no burst to the QB, but hey.. we are nice guys. You see, we are US.. don’t you get it. We have to win” lol

You're just trolling now. I'm not saying we'll keep you to 7 like Louisville, though don't exaggerate your at-home, first week performance. For all the talent PSU has, they are well known to play down to their opponents. Enjoy the game.

 

[Trueblue25]

I don’t think the yards come to the deep outside. It’s gonna be a second level yac game not a deep passing game, specifically because of your corners.

Thats where we may have a softer underbelly but Jones is great in coverage, McDonalds already got a pick as well filling in for Thompson. Our safeties, which were a concern preseason, have looked good. Jahad Carter’s another previous all american and safeties a strength with him and Barron healthy. Could get interesting though.

 

[boilerD]

In a vacuum this is correct - but that’s the difference between defensive styles and game plans.

Im not sure how much you’re a football guy, but in a 3-3-5 defense (like Syracuse runs) - 290 DLmen are not the preference. You’re obsessed with the stats of our linemen, but not sure you understand that why that really doesn’t matter as much as you’re making it seem, especially against a passing team like Purdue.

You’re going to see lots of different movement on the DL, combined with pressure from LBs and DBs. They are going to force offensive linemen to think and scheme pressure. If Purdue wants to go under center and run the ball down our throat because our linemen are 260, that’s a different convo.

I’m honestly not sure if you’re trolling or not. It’s very odd reading this thread.

No, that’s not the style. More like a 11 set that will look to freeze the second level with a handoff out of the shotgun. Oconnell is better he wrong guy to try to bring heat against. He sees it and excels at getting it to a spot where the defenders come from.

It’s more like being content to get 5 yards a carry off of an ace back handoff, clearing out the outside and crossing receivers into the intermediate areas.

My point is that Purdue can go 3-4 wide and still establish the run in this game. A luxury they rarely have in the big ten.

Your NT being smaller and moving better isn’t relevant. Purdue’s OL probably moves better than any in the big ten. Gus Hartwig can take a 270 lb guy all day and be looking for someone at the next level.

 

[storange]

It not just the outside guys lol. Run the corners out and hit the flats and intermediate zones. My prediction is Jones only gets about 65 yards and maybe rice 40. Then Tracy, Sheffield, Durham and the backs get the rest of the yards. Syracuse is going to have to pick their poison. The play action is going to spring Durham, Sheffield, Burks, Tracy etc for big gainers. Not rice, Jones, Sullivan, Thompson, terrell etc

Picking poison, Shrader and Tucker running, Shrader throwing to 8 different recievers.

 

[boilerD]

You're just trolling now. I'm not saying we'll keep you to 7 like Louisville, though don't exaggerate your at-home, first week performance. For all the talent PSU has, they are well known to play down to their opponents. Enjoy the game.

I’m not trolling. I’m giving you reasons Purdue will win 35-27 if they play their game. You really have no basis for saying penn state played down to anyone. Our fan Base is on fire over some of the best players on the team not making plays they normally make. Purdue outplayed penn state and blew it.

 

[ForCuseSake]

It not just the outside guys lol. Run the corners out and hit the flats and intermediate zones. My prediction is Jones only gets about 65 yards and maybe rice 40. Then Tracy, Sheffield, Durham and the backs get the rest of the yards. Syracuse is going to have to pick their poison. The play action is going to spring Durham, Sheffield, Burks, Tracy etc for big gainers. Not rice, Jones, Sullivan, Thompson, terrell etc

Well yes, all defenses must pick their poison based on the system they run and the talent at different levels (e.g. small DL, strong LBs, excellent CBs).

You seem to think that the size of our DL automatically forces us to put 8 in the box - against a pass heavy team that abandons the run.

Maybe Purdue establishes enough of a run game to make your prediction come true. Maybe it won't need to based on your QB's decision making and accuracy.

Our defense was 28th against the run and 26th against the pass last year (avg yards/game) but lacked a supporting offense (ranked 92).

Our small defensive line will hold up just fine with our newly functional offense.

 

[Yeti]

This whole thread is like playing a game on paper. This is weird.

As a whole I think our defense is gonna be better than you're expecting. Not Purdue... just you.

 

[storange]

If we played Illinois we can count on their QB throwing it out of bounds 15x...

And getting sacked by his own offensive lineman twice.

 

[boilerD]

Picking poison, Shrader and Tucker running, Shrader throwing to 8 different recievers.

See that’s where we differ. Purdue will have to play well to hold Shrader to a decent day.

Purdue does well against big time backs. Kenneth Walker. Go ask Boston college about Dillon in west Lafayette. Purdue is going to play the run honest and then have to come up with an answer on how to get to shrader, because Clifford was comfortable all day.

Shrader can play. Purdue’s secondary of trice, Allen, kane, Jefferson and Taylor/brown ain’t bad either.

Purdue has a stout DL and wil commit the mlb to the run.

 

[boilerD]

This whole thread is like playing a game on paper. This is weird.

As a whole I think our defense is gonna be better than you're expecting. Not Purdue... just you.

I’m expecting them to give up 31-35. If they give up 21 I’ll be in here giving you a hearty congrats. I have no problem saying I’m wrong