Give us your top 5 realistic next HC

[DilemaCuse]

happy with any of the following:

Mullen - Proven and familiar with SU culture
Addazzio - Adds toughness to our program
Charles Huff - Rising star
Narduzzi - Defense first guy
Alex Grinch - Rising star
Stan Drayton - Knows area; step up from Temple
Jon Sumrall - Proven winner
Lance Leipold - Home run hire. Not likely but dare to dream

Alex Grinch??? Fired today, 1 season and 9 games too late, lol

 

[Deleted member 8116]

This type of myopic thinking limits the program.

Coach Prime wasn’t from the Mountain Time Zone and managed to flip the roster at CU on a team that was 1-11 last year.

Nick Saban wasn’t from Alabama.

Sarkissian wasn’t from Texas.

Chip Kelly and others weren’t from Oregon.

None of those coaches were from the same region as the school, but they’ve done well because the university was “all-in” on providing the resources needed to be competitive.

Is Syracuse University all-in? Or more important, is the Syracuse football COMMUNITY all-in and prepared to increase the salary pool for assistants, improve the recruiting budget and resources, and improve the NIL opportunities for student-athletes?

If the football COMMUNITY is only committed to sit in cheap seats and complain on social media then be prepared to be frustrated until they fire the next head coach.

Wash - rinse - repeat, wash - rinse - repeat until the community is prepared to step up. Stop expecting someone else to do it.

Clearly you didn’t read my post (s) like others thinking I would be thrilled with Addazio. I said he was like bottom on my list and would really only take him if it came down to him and Jim Knowles. I wouldn’t completely dismiss him due to his age like I was previously doing.

He is only slightly appealing because of his recruiting ties and his teams usually play pretty disciplined.

I also think having recruiting ties and being familiar with the region are a little more important at Syracuse than freaking Alabama and Texas haha. These schools can pick and choose whatever 5 and 4 stars they want from anywhere in the country regardless of the coach.

I would rather have any one of these guys before we even got to SA.

Mullen
Lewis
Warren Ruggiero
White
Hartline
Chesney
Leipold
Phil Longo

 

[oldpinepoint]

We should we running to the Holy Cross coach, and he should be right at the top.

 

[DilemaCuse]

If we're talking Tom Herman we should talk Clay Helton too.

No, Herman built a program at Houston. Clueless clay inherited a job out of luck because Sark got drunk. He then chose Max Browne over Sam Darnold for 3 games. Darnold saved his job and then once he was gone he took a Ferrari and totaled it.

 

[Dinkyspond]

We need to get a coach that knows the northeast. We’re losing all those big recruits from Maine, VT, NH and Mass. We need a guy that can fly into Bangor Maine and all the HS coaches know him. Can’t miss the boat on this.

Yes,

False. He is, however, the grandson of Rudi Stein, relief pitcher/backup OF for the Bears, runners up of the Southern California Little League.

I think the Bears played in the Valley Little League.

 

[Dinkyspond]

Alex Grinch??? Fired today, 1 season and 9 games too late, lol

Drayton coached here once, RBs coach under Grob, knows the territory anyway, but I don’t want him here anyway

 

[Bulldog04]

We should we running to the Holy Cross coach, and he should be right at the top.

He will be on the list for sure. At a lot of places. He’s going to have some serious options

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

Yes,

I think the Bears played in the Valley Little League.

This is the actual park they used for filming. Google Maps

If I ever get out to LA for a visit, I'm going to schlep up there. It's my favorite sports movie.

 

[shu 49]

FIFY:
Troy Taylor - Sacramento State Stanford

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Jim Knowles - losing record as a HC at Cornell. Please no.

Joe Moorhead - won 4 games in 2 years as HC at Akron. OC, yes, HC, no.

Tony White - actually has next to no ties to the east coast. Just the 3 years he spent at SU and that's it. He's been west of the Miss. his entire adult life.

Warren Ruggiero - admittedly, I did not know who he is. WF OC, w/ Clawson since BG.
"Wake Forest is the only football program in the ACC to average at least 30 points per game each year since 2017."

Warren Ruggiero - Football Coach - Wake Forest University Athletics

Warren Ruggiero, who has coordinated the most prolific offenses in Wake Forest history over the past six seasons and was a Broyles Award finalist in 2021, is...

godeacs.com

White is from nyc. How is that not northeast.

 

[Bayside44]

Whatever happened to Scott Frost? He was going to be the guy after Shafer, but wouldn’t commit long term. I’m not sure if he’s even coaching anymore. He really screwed up his career at Nebraska.

UCF is a much better job in 2023, well it was anyway when they were in the A.

 

[orangenauburn]

What about Kevin Sumlin

 

[Dinkyspond]

This is the actual park they used for filming. Google Maps

If I ever get out to LA for a visit, I'm going to schlep up there. It's my favorite sports movie.

Bears. "North" Valley Little League.That would be a cool movie locale to visit!

 

[Moontan]

What about Kevin Sumlin

His recent DUI, and other items, make this a no go.

 

[ECE '76]

White is from nyc. How is that not northeast.

He was born in Florida and went to high school in El Paso. Yes he was in NYC as a grade schooler. His football life has been entirely in TX, CA, NM, AZ, Nebraska, except for the 3 years here. I think his east coast ties are being over sold a bit.

 

[Bayside44]

This type of myopic thinking limits the program.

Coach Prime wasn’t from the Mountain Time Zone and managed to flip the roster at CU on a team that was 1-11 last year.

Nick Saban wasn’t from Alabama.

Sarkissian wasn’t from Texas.

Chip Kelly and others weren’t from Oregon.

None of those coaches were from the same region as the school, but they’ve done well because the university was “all-in” on providing the resources needed to be competitive.

Is Syracuse University all-in? Or more important, is the Syracuse football COMMUNITY all-in and prepared to increase the salary pool for assistants, improve the recruiting budget and resources, and improve the NIL opportunities for student-athletes?

If the football COMMUNITY is only committed to sit in cheap seats and complain on social media then be prepared to be frustrated until they fire the next head coach.

Wash - rinse - repeat, wash - rinse - repeat until the community is prepared to step up. Stop expecting someone else to do it.

I enjoy your posts, but your examples are a possible scam, and three of the biggest funded programs in the country. Nevermind the talent in Texas.

The northeast thing matters to the extent that whoever comes here better understand the recruiting landscape and be realistic about it.

 

[phil77]

Hot take --- If White didn't coach here for a couple of seasons he wouldn't even be on the list of people to interview. He doesn't really check any boxes.

 

[anomander]

So you want Marrone who supposedly hated recruiting but you don’t want Mullen because he supposedly hated recruiting…..

I think you’re conflicted here

Marrone may have hated it but i thought he was very under rated at identifying talent and had a good staff of recruiters that can do the heavy lifting once identified. I also know Marrone isn’t coming back. I would take him in a second but i realize it’s not happening haha

 

[Tip Hill]

Toledo’s Jason Candle deserves a look.

Coach Candle is young. He is 43 years old. (Please do not hire a retread geezer.)

Candle has earned a solid record of 62 wins and 33 losses over 9 seasons at Toledo.

A quick Google search indicates that Coach Candle may be within the SU budgetary restriction. He reportedly makes a base of $1.1M per year and has a $605K buyout. Assuming SU pays a base of $3M+/- per year such sum would likely be attractive to Candle.

Jason Candle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Hot take --- If White didn't coach here for a couple of seasons he wouldn't even be on the list of people to interview. He doesn't really check any boxes.

Relationships matter.

Supposedly he left an impression.

 

[DilemaCuse]

If we want a DC as HC look at Jim Leonard. Former interim at Wiscy. I think he is on staff at Illinois. Probably looking for a HC job if he can't get the Northwestern or Sparty gig.

 

[Bayside44]

Drayton coached here once, RBs coach under Grob, knows the territory anyway, but I don’t want him here anyway

I don't see it on his Wiki page but didn't he coach HS in the WCAC?

 

[anomander]

Toledo’s Jason Candle deserves a look.

Coach Candle is young. He is 43 years old. (Please do not hire a retread geezer.)

Candle has earned a solid record of 62 wins and 33 losses over 9 seasons at Toledo.

A quick Google search indicates that Coach Candle may be within the SU budgetary restriction. He reportedly makes a base of $1.1M per year and has a $605K buyout. Assuming SU pays a base of $3M+/- per year such sum would likely be attractive to Candle.

Jason Candle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hard Pass

 

[shu 49]

He was born in Florida and went to high school in El Paso. Yes he was in NYC as a grade schooler. His football life has been entirely in TX, CA, NM, AZ, Nebraska, except for the 3 years here. I think his east coast ties are being over sold a bit.

I thought he grew up in Brooklyn. What his bio said. Sorry my bad.

 

[orange_in_VA]

Hard Pass

Why?

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

Some of my San Diego State friends said they’ve heard Tony White and Sean Lewis’ name rumored for the SDSU job because Brady Hoke is toast.