Give us your top 5 realistic next HC

[CanadianSU]

Good but to be honest maybe not right now but the players would have done the same for Babers. Oh and Shafer.

switch It up.

 

[anomander]

I think a lot of people see that Lewis is a good coach. I never liked Moorhead even when he was at PSU. Lewis at least brought in talent and improved the Kent St program. I don’t see that at Akron. I think Lewis is in an even better position since Deion picked him up. Don’t underestimate his impact.

Agree on Moorhead. Lewis we at least know was responsible for some of Dino’s early success. The problem is i believe he has his eyes set on something bigger after another year or 2 at Colorado. He was an amazing OC. He always had a play when we needed one. To see how Dino’s early teams offense have dropped since Lewis left you know he had a huge impact.

 

[Moontan]

In alphabetical order:

Lewis
Bronco Mendenhall (he'd keep Beck)
Mullen
Patricia
White

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Preferred:

Mullen
Mendenhall
Lewis

 

[Crusty]

In alphabetical order:

Lewis
Bronco Mendenhall (he'd keep Beck)
Mullen
Patricia
White

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Preferred:

Mullen
Mendenhall
Lewis

Bronco Mendenhall is interesting.

 

[orangenauburn]

Agree on Moorhead. Lewis we at least know was responsible for some of Dino’s early success. The problem is i believe he has his eyes set on something bigger after another year or 2 at Colorado. He was an amazing OC. He always had a play when we needed one. To see how Dino’s early teams offense have dropped since Lewis left you know he had a huge impact.

I can see Lewis landing at Michigan State

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Joe Moörehead? Not exactly killing it at Akron but….NE guy, p5 success, could come here?

He was perceived as the program savior just a couple years ago. He was Sean Lewis two years ago. Like I said, Lewis is a good coach and really liked him at Syracuse. think Lewis is trying to get a big 10 type job from Colorado after another year there, imo. I don’t think he’s coming here as he’s been here and realizes how difficult it is to recruit. Now if he Was interested that would tell me he has a plan where he thinks he can be successful at Syracuse, that’s intriguing but don’t get your hopes up the Syracuse job is well known as a very difficult task

all that said he didn’t have a winng record overall at Kent st and only had 1 winning season there and was 24-31 overall so let’s not make him out to be urban Meyer. Also have to worry about his defenses which stunk

 

[kcsu]

I’d be a little underwhelmed with Tony White.

Tony would be the only assistant without head coaching experience that i would consider. JW loves the guy.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Tony would be the only assistant without head coaching experience that i would consider. JW loves the guy.

I mean if white thinks there’s a path towards success here you should at least hear him out. He has history here which I think is important and Sean Lewis too but I don’t think he would be interested at all, just my gut I think he’s holding out for a bigger job on the jump from Colorado.

you do wonder if coaching at Colorado can be just too much of a circus at times with all the media.etc

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Joe Moörehead? Not exactly killing it at Akron but….NE guy, p5 success, could come here?

He has HC experience but it is bad experience. Miss State went down after he was HC. It seemed like an awful fit, which would explain the record. However, Akron is horrendous. Hard pass now.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Agree on Moorhead. Lewis we at least know was responsible for some of Dino’s early success. The problem is i believe he has his eyes set on something bigger after another year or 2 at Colorado. He was an amazing OC. He always had a play when we needed one. To see how Dino’s early teams offense have dropped since Lewis left you know he had a huge impact.

There is a good chance he gets the Colorado job when Prime moves onto a bigger job. He has no reason to come rebuild Cuse.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I mean if white thinks there’s a path towards success here you should at least hear him out. He has history here which I think is important and Sean Lewis too but I don’t think he would be interested at all, just my gut I think he’s holding out for a bigger job on the jump from Colorado.

you do wonder if coaching at Colorado can be just too much of a circus at times with all the media.etc

I think White could work, but he would need a good plan to fix the O.

Stumbled across a risky name: JaMarcus Shephard. He is AHC/PGC/WR at Washington this year which is a great O system. From 2017-21 he was co-OC/WR. Another good O system and he knows what it is like to recruit to a smaller program. In 2016 he was at WSU with Leach, another great O system. From 2011-15 he was at WKU and was under Taggart, Petrino, and Brohm. So his entire career he has been exposed to very good Os. Also he is from Indiana, which is at least closer to CNY than Cali, Texas, or the South. On paper he seems good but I have no clue if he is just another McDonald.

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[IthacaBarrel]

I think White could work, but he would need a good plan to fix the O.

Stumbled across a risky name: JaMarcus Shephard. He is AHC/PGC/WR at Washington this year which is a great O system. From 2017-21 he was co-OC/WR. Another good O system and he knows what it is like to recruit to a smaller program. In 2016 he was at WSU with Leach, another great O system. From 2011-15 he was at WKU and was under Taggart, Petrino, and Brohm. So his entire career he has been exposed to very good Os. Also he is from Indiana, which is at least closer to CNY than Cali, Texas, or the South. On paper he seems good but I have no clue if he is just another McDonald.

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these are the types though I like. I’d rather take the risk get here on a reasonable deal. If it works then you try and pay bigger $, maybe he stays maybe not but that’s a good problem. If it fails well you move on but you’re over paying up front and let’s face it nobody knows if the coach will be successful but it’s not an easy job. Going to take a special coach to really be successful over the long haul But dude should be younger and be ready to work essentially non stop. Im dubious of head coach retreads on this front

now on the flip said UW has a 6th year Qb who will be most likely a 1st rounder and 2-3 NFL wide receivers. UW got lucky as i think their last coach left in somewhat of a scandal and they replaced him with a better coach

 

[kcsu]

has to have connections in our recruiting areas

 

[IthacaBarrel]

has to have connections in our recruiting areas

Yeah tough to argue against that but also needs to be able to work the portal with connections as well. It’s equally as important these days

 

[HRE Otto IV]

has to have connections in our recruiting areas

Ideally 110%. Problem is there aren't any good choices who have that.

 

[Dr. Bill]

I think Wildhack goes for Sean Lewis or Tony White.

I like Tony White! Players seem to love him, and his defense was really good...my only concern with White is...Can he recruit? Who did he bring in while he was here? I have said this , it seems like a million times on this thread...It doesn't matter who the coach is, if certain things, like funding and NIL money doesn't improve.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

these are the types though I like. I’d rather take the risk get here on a reasonable deal. If it works then you try and pay bigger $, maybe he stays maybe not but that’s a good problem. If it fails well you move on but you’re over paying up front and let’s face it nobody knows if the coach will be successful but it’s not an easy job. Going to take a special coach to really be successful over the long haul But dude should be younger and be ready to work essentially non stop. Im dubious of head coach retreads on this front

now on the flip said UW has a 6th year Qb who will be most likely a 1st rounder and 2-3 NFL wide receivers. UW got lucky as i think their last coach left in somewhat of a scandal and they replaced him with a better coach

Agree that UW alone isn't a good indicator. Which is why his time at Purdue/Brohm and with Leach/Petrino is good too. At the very least he has been exposed to a lot of good O minds. Whether or not any of that rubbed off is another question. Dino had Briles and it rubbed off for a few years only. I think you at least kick the tires to find out more.

 

[Dr. Bill]

It has to be someone who has had success program building at the P5 level.

My line of work is turning around companies. It’s what I do. And I can’t tell you how valuable it is to recruit people for the team that have similar experience. It isn’t just the experience per se, it’s the mental toughness you need to be able to walk into a situation that’s broken, see the potential, and ride the crazy storm of a turnaround plan.

That’s the type of person we need. Someone who has done it before and has been successful with it, and has had some sustained success at a P5. Someone who prioritizes building a disciplined program with strong line play. A building blocks guy that can surround himself with strong position coaches that are solid recruiters.

The characteristics that you just described, that person will be hard to find...and will be very costly. A proven program builder at the P5 level with sustained success...is most likely still coaching someone else's team...but I agree with your assessment.

 

[Dr. Bill]

Ideally 110%. Problem is there aren't any good choices who have that.

whoever the Coach is needs to keep our current Tight End Coach with the strong New Jersey Connections!!! That guy will be key moving forward. Look at this year's recruits, Strong Jersey impact!!!

 

[ForCuseSake]

I’ll let cuse69bonghit know!!

Can this be a horse’s name or are there rules that prevent it?

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Can this be a horse’s name or are there rules that prevent it?

yeah would never fly. There are rules. But would be funny

 

[kcsu]

Ideally 110%. Problem is there aren't any good choices who have that.

Cig does

 

[kcsu]

whoever the Coach is needs to keep our current Tight End Coach with the strong New Jersey Connections!!! That guy will be key moving forward. Look at this year's recruits, Strong Jersey impact!!!

 

[kcsu]

The JMU guy is a hard arse that in my opinion would turn us around next year

 

[djorange1989]

The JMU guy is a hard arse that in my opinion would turn us around next year

This. If he isn’t the first guy JW calls I will not be happy and I don’t give a crap that he is older, the dude has like a 110-20 career record, or something like that.