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Illinois making a change at OC

Now that they have the new OC, pork roll sidebar meetings about which OL are acceptable vs. ones that need to be replaced can now start, along with seeding of potential upgraded OL recruiting targets.
 
Honestly the Patriots for years ran a lot of the same plays over and over again and no one could stop them. As a Bills fan it was very frustrating.
The Packers ran their sweep all day long. Vince Lombardi swore that he could tell the defense they were gong to run it and if everybody did their singular job, it couldn't be stopped.
Obviously, that was hyperbole because you need the talent level to do this, but the point is, simple can be very successful if you are at exceptional at it.
 
If he hadn’t flamed out and burned his bridge I’d take him back here to coach wr in a heartbeat.
Outside of Ishmael imo he is the most over rated recruiter we have ever had.
 
There’s some chatter that the new OC was bringing a QB with him. Now THAT’s when it’ll get interesting!

The new OC also runs a heavy RPO offense…
Yikes!
 
The Packers ran their sweep all day long. Vince Lombardi swore that he could tell the defense they were gong to run it and if everybody did their singular job, it couldn't be stopped.
Obviously, that was hyperbole because you need the talent level to do this, but the point is, simple can be very successful if you are at exceptional at it.
There is an old story about Mac when Jim Tressel was his OC. Tressel kept calling the same running play over and over again with Joe Morris. Mac, who never wore a headset, grabbed a headset and said to Tressel, "Jimmy, don't we have other plays we can run?" Tressel said matter of factly and honestly, "Coach, I'll stop calling this play when they're able to stop it."
 
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There is an old story about Mac when Jim Tressel was his OC. Tressel kept calling the same running play over and over again with Joe Morris. Mac, who never wore a headset, grabbed a headset and said to Tressel, "Jimmy, don't we have other plays we can run?" Tressel said matter of factly and honestly, "Coach, I'll stop calling this play when they're able to stop it."

Tressel was QB coach. Unless there wasn’t named coordinators back then and Tressel was the one responsible for play calling.
 
Tressel was QB coach. Unless there wasn’t named coordinators back then and Tressel was the one responsible for

Tressel was QB coach. Unless there wasn’t named coordinators back then and Tressel was the one responsible for play calling.

Apparently as QB coach Tressel did call plays as you surmised. The story is retold here.
 
The National Football League?
The guy can throw the ball. He needs to play on a team that has a dominant level of talent relative to the league their playing in, especially o-line and it doesn't hurt to have receivers that can shake coverage. Let's face it, Syracuse is not that team in the ACC but Kent State is in the MAC.
 
The guy can throw the ball. He needs to play on a team that has a dominant level of talent relative to the league their playing in, especially o-line and it doesn't hurt to have receivers that can shake coverage. Let's face it, Syracuse is not that team in the ACC but Kent State is in the MAC.
The national football league?
 
The national football league?
Have you watched the National Football League, there are a lot of bad QB's who make it there. If you got a canon and some level of intelligence, some team will bring you to camp.
 
money3189 was there for this one day with me. He’s showing a group of us coaches cut ups of game plays.

I think he called the play Bear, but this was a long time ago so I might be forgetting. It was basically an empty set with 5 digs for routes. They opened the BC game I believe, by running the same play 5 or six times in a row.

He was laughing and talking about how he had a bet with Terrell Hunt about how many consecutive times they could run the play for a net positive result.

I get the concept of run it if it’s working, but that was the first time I’d ever seen any OC do that. Scripted same play that many times in a row, at any level.
Haha. That’s video game football. All dig routes must have been something to see on the field. We’re they even different depths (probably not knowing him).
 
Have you watched the National Football League, there are a lot of bad QB's who make it there. If you got a canon and some level of intelligence, some team will bring you to camp.
Bad QBs? Name one. There are no bad QBs in the league. Some may be better relative to peers but there are no bad ones generally.

Tommy has a cannon compared to who? Aaron Rodgers? Lol
 
The guy can throw the ball. He needs to play on a team that has a dominant level of talent relative to the league their playing in, especially o-line and it doesn't hurt to have receivers that can shake coverage. Let's face it, Syracuse is not that team in the ACC but Kent State is in the MAC.

Lol yep everything has to be perfect for him to succeed it isn't happening.
 
Lol yep everything has to be perfect for him to succeed it isn't happening.
I've seen a lot of QB's come out of factory schools who put up huge stats, even Heisman trophy winners, that can't do a thing in the NFL. If he had a big season at a place like Kent State and threw a lot of long TD's he might get a look.
 
Have you watched the National Football League, there are a lot of bad QB's who make it there. If you got a canon and some level of intelligence, some team will bring you to camp.
You are right, there are plenty of strong armed QBs who were bad QBs. Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell were both drafted high just because of their arms and because they put up a lot of stats in college. There are many more. The NFL has shown that for long-term success, intelligence is more important than arm strength.

IMO, the 2 biggest aspects that show a QBs football intelligence are their ability to read a defense and going through your progressions.

I always wished SU used more motion in their offense. Using motion keeps the defense on their toes, but one of the biggest reasons to use motion is for the QB to be able to see what type of coverage the defense is running pre-snap (man v. zone and what type zone). This is what makes Brady the QB he is. He reads defensive coverage as well as anyone which helps him make quick decisions. SU has used motion so little, Devito has far fewer opportunities to identify defenses this way. Not a knock on him, per se, but coaches not putting him in a better position to recognize defenses allowing him to make quicker decisions.

His biggest issue, IMO, was going thru his progressions. So many times he locked in on the primary receiver and missed the 2nd and 3rd guy wide open. Why didn't he go through his progressions?? Is it because he never really had the experience in high school cause the primary read was always open?? Is It because of nerves?? Is it because he didn't know all the routes being run so didn't bother looking for other receivers?? This question needs to be figured out.

QBs like Leaf and Russell had their football intelligence masked by good offenses that put up big stats. They were exposed once they got to the NFL. So you are right to a certain extent, Devito, and his big arm could be drafted. He just needs to fix his issues or put up huge numbers and hope scouts forget about his time at SU.
 
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I've seen a lot of QB's come out of factory schools who put up huge stats, even Heisman trophy winners, that can't do a thing in the NFL. If he had a big season at a place like Kent State and threw a lot of long TD's he might get a look.

Yes because there’s a similarity between the NFL looking at stats of a QB at Alabama and Kent state. Guys at factory schools get favorably judged, he’s not getting the same look from a scout at Kent state as a QB at any SEC school.
 
QBs like Leaf and Russell had their football intelligence masked by good offenses that put up big stats. They were exposed once they got to the NFL. So you are right to a certain extent, Devito, and his big arm could be drafted. He just needs to fix his issues or put up huge numbers and hope scouts forget about his time at SU.

Devito isn’t going to be drafted because those QB’s put up numbers at schools that were respected, right or wrong. There’s tons of QB’s that put up numbers at schools like Kent state and don’t even get a sniff. He’s also got boatloads of tape from his time at SU that show how bad he is when he has to read a defense or make a quick decision.
 
Devito isn’t going to be drafted because those QB’s put up numbers at schools that were respected, right or wrong. There’s tons of QB’s that put up numbers at schools like Kent state and don’t even get a sniff. He’s also got boatloads of tape from his time at SU that show how bad he is when he has to read a defense or make a quick decision.
There are a lot of QB's in the NFL that didn't play on major teams, some even came from FCS programs.
 
There are a lot of QB's in the NFL that didn't play on major teams, some even came from FCS programs.

There’s not “a lot” that came from FCS so I think you’re actually making my point. Of the ones that did, none have 3 years of tape at another school having difficulty reading defenses and making quick decisions. He’s not being drafted.
 

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