Kelly's Presser for SU

[zona]

Your post doesn’t minimize the fact that he killed a kid.

Wrong that type fandom response is immature. Not thought out. Not investigated. I would agree during those types of winds he should not have been up there. but to accuse a person of murder? really. Yes you are immature and anyone who thinks that way is.

 

[Ish88888]

Regarding a way for a Syracuse victory would follow like this:
1) Win the turnover battle by 3 or greater.
2) cash in on these opportunities
3) Special Teams need to be special for the Orange a Blocked punt / KR that type of thing
4) make the game a video game score 40 something to 40 something. If you do that you have a great chance.
5) if the Irish start Wimbush you may have a slightly better chance of winning but only slightly. the Irish coaches know how to gear the offense to Wimbush's strengths. He is a running QB. However his decision making is not great at times. Book can run but is a QB first and generally makes good decisions.

Rewatch the FSU -ND game you will see how they designed the game with Wimbush's strengths in mind. Also when FSU picked a couple of his passes what the coaches did next. They called no passes and ran the ball 11-12 times for 97 yards and a TD. This is against a quality DL with a lot of talent. They were 17 or 18 at the time against the run.

What I would do if I against Syracuse is the following:
1) Run the ball much like they did to FSU to wear down the D. Clemson was able to do this against your D. Syracuse does not have the depth to stop this over a period of time.
2) run at you DE's and throw screen passes a lot. The depth and size of your DL against a larger team will have problems with this.
3) take shots deep to keep the safety's honest
4) let the Irish D do what they do best.
5) minimize ST mistakes, TO's and penalties

You map out a scheme as if we are a 4 td underdog. they are a TD better. we can play with them inside on both lines and we have the better qb. saying we need 3 tos and then a laundry list of things to go right? Gimme a break, pay attention.

 

[zona]

Yeah, I thought there was a little arrogance in his list.
If we are +2 in turnovers, we will win the game. We won't also need a blocked kick and a big return to beat them. The original poster probably didn't actually see the Clemson game, and probably didn't know that we were still ahead with under 5 minutes to go.

This will be a tough game. But it's a winnable game if we play well. Not superhuman, just play well, and do what we do. Dungey has to be accurate with the passes (NC State Dungey). If he does that, that will open up the running game.

actually I did see the game. I think Syracuse is a good team. And are a top 25 team. I also saw the game from outsider looking in. And as a coach. Syracuse played well and were opportunistic but you could see what Dabo was doing to change the way Syracuse was playing. He decided to run and control the ball and wear out the d-line. I could see early in the 4th quarter that Clemson was going to win if they kept at it. Honestly, not arrogance it is evaluation with the physical athletes that Clemson had. Basically Dabo decided to out athlete Syracuse. That was the only way Clemson was going to beat Syracuse and it worked. That is why I said 3+ TO's and great ST play.

So what Pitt did to Notre Dame to almost beat the Irish was give multi-D looks that Book was not use to and blitz constantly. Late in the third quarter he got religion and realized who to throw to and how to read those looks. It is hard for a new QB to do that. Once he did Notre Dame scored 2 TD's and won. By the way Pitt had a KO return for a TD in that game. They did not have the +3 TO's.

 

[zona]

You map out a scheme as if we are a 4 td underdog. they are a TD better. we can play with them inside on both lines and we have the better qb. saying we need 3 tos and then a laundry list of things to go right? Gimme a break, pay attention.

I map out a scheme in which I think Syracuse could win. Straight up with out some Turnovers I do not think Syracuse can win. You had a +2 TO margin against Clemson and lost. That is why I put 3 in there. It does not mean I think the game will be a blow out. Far from it. My guess is the game will be relatively close late in the 3rd quarter and all things being equal Notre Dame will pull away at that point. In a game that might be 31-17. Sounds like a pounding but not really. a cheap TD late is far from a pounding. So If Syracuse wins I will come back to your board and take my lumps and the Irish win I won't be back or I will say it was a great game.n Fair enough!

 

[zona]

The thing about Turnovers is: it does not mean the team that gets the ball on the TO will score on it but the other bonus to the TO is you prevent that team having a chance to score. So by default you kept the game closer. so having 3 TO's in a game keeps the game closer and at least one should be a TD.

 

[billsin01]

Wasn't the QB for NC State a consensus first round pick and maybe the best pure QB in the draft?
I get that Book's stats are out of sight. I'm just more scared of a running QB getting to the second level against us, and taking it to the house a couple times. I've seen it happen too many times. If we are going to get stops against ND, I think it will be from getting to a pocket QB on third down.

I mean who knows -- not claiming to be an expert. But my feeling is that Book puts this team in better downs and distances constantly. Add that to a really good WR (Boykin -- who's numbers skyrocketed with Book), two excellent RBs (Anderson/Armstrong) and a loaded OL, that's a really dangerous combination.

I get that we've been killed by running QBs in the past, but Pitt's QB ran four times for -29 yards ... it was their power running game that killed us. Clemson's QBs ran 7 times for -11 yards. Those are the two games we lost. Power running and QBs getting rid of the ball and making good decisions are the things that have hurt this team.

That said, it's a tough task either way.

 

[baggerbob]

actually I did see the game. I think Syracuse is a good team. And are a top 25 team. I also saw the game from outsider looking in. And as a coach. Syracuse played well and were opportunistic but you could see what Dabo was doing to change the way Syracuse was playing. He decided to run and control the ball and wear out the d-line. I could see early in the 4th quarter that Clemson was going to win if they kept at it. Honestly, not arrogance it is evaluation with the physical athletes that Clemson had. Basically Dabo decided to out athlete Syracuse. That was the only way Clemson was going to beat Syracuse and it worked. That is why I said 3+ TO's and great ST play.

So what Pitt did to Notre Dame to almost beat the Irish was give multi-D looks that Book was not use to and blitz constantly. Late in the third quarter he got religion and realized who to throw to and how to read those looks. It is hard for a new QB to do that. Once he did Notre Dame scored 2 TD's and won. By the way Pitt had a KO return for a TD in that game. They did not have the +3 TO's.

And if the Pitt kicker makes the 36 and 47 yard field goals, Notre Dame loses. He had a career day against us making 2 50 + kicks. or we win in regulation.

 

[Ish88888]

I mean who knows -- not claiming to be an expert. But my feeling is that Book puts this team in better downs and distances constantly. Add that to a really good WR (Boykin -- who's numbers skyrocketed with Book), two excellent RBs (Anderson/Armstrong) and a loaded OL, that's a really dangerous combination.

I get that we've been killed by running QBs in the past, but Pitt's QB ran four times for -29 yards ... it was their power running game that killed us. Clemson's QBs ran 7 times for -11 yards. Those are the two games we lost. Power running and QBs getting rid of the ball and making good decisions are the things that have hurt this team.

That said, it's a tough task either way.

Its a weird dynamic when a starter, talented starter like wimbush sits, gains perspective and gets hungrier, comes back in and kills it. Thus , i want book.

 

[IthacaMatt]

actually I did see the game. I think Syracuse is a good team. And are a top 25 team. I also saw the game from outsider looking in. And as a coach. Syracuse played well and were opportunistic but you could see what Dabo was doing to change the way Syracuse was playing. He decided to run and control the ball and wear out the d-line. I could see early in the 4th quarter that Clemson was going to win if they kept at it. Honestly, not arrogance it is evaluation with the physical athletes that Clemson had. Basically Dabo decided to out athlete Syracuse. That was the only way Clemson was going to beat Syracuse and it worked. That is why I said 3+ TO's and great ST play.

So what Pitt did to Notre Dame to almost beat the Irish was give multi-D looks that Book was not use to and blitz constantly. Late in the third quarter he got religion and realized who to throw to and how to read those looks. It is hard for a new QB to do that. Once he did Notre Dame scored 2 TD's and won. By the way Pitt had a KO return for a TD in that game. They did not have the +3 TO's.

Then you know we were one play away from winning at Clemson.
A team that good doesn't need 40 different things to "go right" for us to win this game.
We have the number 1 special teams in football.
We have a strong pash rush and some young, but big physical DBs.
Our O Line is experienced, but only OK, not truly great.
Our D Line is very good. Not elite, but very good.
We have a maniac at QB. He knee kicks defenders in the chest and runs the ball like a linebacker.
It will be an interesting game. ND should be favored, and is, but by only about 8 or 9 points.
Syracuse has beaten ND three times, I believe, in the 2000s already, although it might only be two (Dome, at Notre Dame, and I can't remember if there was one more ... there was Willingham in the Dome, Chandler Jones or was it Art Jones at ND in the bad weather, and there was a Cam Dantley QB'd win, too. Am I double counting?).
You guys are good, but you're not Alabama. We can win this game.

 

[CuseOnly]

Eh if you've actually been paying attention, you've been able to hear the questions at Dino's press conferences all year after week 1. But nice cheap shot without doing any research. SU deserves some criticism at times but it's just amazing how our own fans just love to take uninformed cheap shots just to get a "funny"

I don't know what Pressers you are watching or listening but what you said is Not true, the last press conference was awful and they did not use a microphone for questions that I can recall. The only one you can clearly hear is Dino. We should hear speaker and press equally well but it sounds like the press is talking into a tin can in an empty room

You should listen again before you say someone is taking cheap shots.

 

[IthacaMatt]

one QB leads the ball into windows, so when he makes late reads his throws get into trouble since he doesnt have great form on those throws

one QB throws into windows, unclear that he makes the right reads with so little data, so some throws look better, others are what was he thinking.

IE.. ED first throw at LSU vs TD throw vs UNC..

you hope the SR doesnt make that mistake now.. but he made the throw that killed us vs Pitt.

we are playing with house money now.. we got thru the SR game and the home games, now its everything goes to win the last 2 or 3 or 4 or 5...


A+ ED and we can win, C+ ED and we will be seeing TD.

In fairness to Tommy's interception, he got faked by that cornerback, like he was going to blitz and Tommy tried to loft the ball over him, but as Tommy let it go, the guy dropped back and played the ball, getting the INT. Yes, Tommy got played, but that was a heady, veteran kind of play by the CB, if you ask me. You don't see defenders doing that a lot. He deserves a lot of credit for that pick.

 

[MSOrange]

I don't know what Pressers you are watching or listening but what you said is Not true, the last press conference was awful and they did not use a microphone for questions that I can recall. The only one you can clearly hear is Dino. We should hear speaker and press equally well but it sounds like the press is talking into a tin can in an empty room

You should listen again before you say someone is taking cheap shots.

I had no trouble at 1:35. Is there a time frame I should go to on the video?

 

[skurey]

I map out a scheme in which I think Syracuse could win. Straight up with out some Turnovers I do not think Syracuse can win. You had a +2 TO margin against Clemson and lost. That is why I put 3 in there. It does not mean I think the game will be a blow out. Far from it. My guess is the game will be relatively close late in the 3rd quarter and all things being equal Notre Dame will pull away at that point. In a game that might be 31-17. Sounds like a pounding but not really. a cheap TD late is far from a pounding. So If Syracuse wins I will come back to your board and take my lumps and the Irish win I won't be back or I will say it was a great game.n Fair enough!

So you think Notre Dame has the talent of Clemson?

 

[CuseOnly]

I had no trouble at 1:35. Is there a time frame I should go to on the video?

GO back and listen to the ND presser and figure it out, notice the differences.

They show the person on mic asking the question with a microphone in their hand and there is no deciphering or guessing who is asking the question or what they are saying. They don't sound like they are talking to someone in a stairwell.

Listen to the SU presser and tell me who is asking the question and exactly what they are saying. I have to almost listen to Dino's answer and then try to think back as to what the question was.

Ridiculous coming from one of the best communications schools in the world.

 

[CuseOnly]

So you think Notre Dame has the talent of Clemson?

No. Way.

 

[MSOrange]

GO back and listen to the ND presser and figure it out, notice the differences.

They show the person on mic asking the question with a microphone in their hand and there is no deciphering or guessing who is asking the question or what they are saying. They don't sound like they are talking to someone in a stairwell.

Listen to the SU presser and tell me who is asking the question and exactly what they are saying. I have to almost listen to Dino's answer and then try to think back as to what the question was.

Ridiculous coming from one of the best communications schools in the world.

I don't care if they show who is asking the question and I can honestly hear them just fine. Is is absolutely the same quality as Dino - no. But I can still hear everyone fine. Agree to disagree. Have a good night. Go Orange. Beat ND.

 

[fathertime]

In fairness to Tommy's interception, he got faked by that cornerback, like he was going to blitz and Tommy would loft the ball over him, but as Tommy let it go, the guy dropped back and played the ball, getting the INT. Yes, Tommy got played, but that was a heady, veteran kind of play by the CB, if you ask me. You don't see defenders doing that a lot. He deserves a lot of credit for that pick.

The slack given to Devito on this board is absolutely insane. He’s been largely unimpressive in game action, with the exception of his performance vs UNC, a 1-8 team. He was great in that game.

Typical fan forum folks getting way too fired up about the number of stars given to recruits. The kid almost blew a 4TD lead in 5 mins against WMU.

 

[MSOrange]

The slack given to Devito on this board is absolutely insane. He’s been largely unimpressive in game action, with the exception of his performance vs UNC, a 1-8 team. He was great in that game.

Typical fan forum folks getting way too fired up about the number of stars given to recruits. The kid almost blew a 4TD lead in 5 mins against WMU.

He was good against FSU also and believe it or not, he didn't single handedly almost blow the WMU game.

 

[skurey]

The slack given to Devito on this board is absolutely insane. He’s been largely unimpressive in game action, with the exception of his performance vs UNC, a 1-8 team. He was great in that game.

Typical fan forum folks getting way too fired up about the number of stars given to recruits. The kid almost blew a 4TD lead in 5 mins against WMU.

Lol

 

[shu 49]

Agreed while not staring at the receiver. Saw Louisville watch his eyes and the Irish are better and will take advantage of it and not drop errant throws. ED has to be smarter on his throws to Custis which too many are forced as well. I'd love to see ED have a great game on the National Stage.

I asked this of Custis last week. Why when we go fade route does he line up 2 yds from sideline. Why not move in 5 yds and it gives him cushion for throw over top. He did it three times last week. Is there a technique that I have never heard of or something. If it is on purpose then once in blue moon send him to the post.

 

[shu 49]

actually I did see the game. I think Syracuse is a good team. And are a top 25 team. I also saw the game from outsider looking in. And as a coach. Syracuse played well and were opportunistic but you could see what Dabo was doing to change the way Syracuse was playing. He decided to run and control the ball and wear out the d-line. I could see early in the 4th quarter that Clemson was going to win if they kept at it. Honestly, not arrogance it is evaluation with the physical athletes that Clemson had. Basically Dabo decided to out athlete Syracuse. That was the only way Clemson was going to beat Syracuse and it worked. That is why I said 3+ TO's and great ST play.

So what Pitt did to Notre Dame to almost beat the Irish was give multi-D looks that Book was not use to and blitz constantly. Late in the third quarter he got religion and realized who to throw to and how to read those looks. It is hard for a new QB to do that. Once he did Notre Dame scored 2 TD's and won. By the way Pitt had a KO return for a TD in that game. They did not have the +3 TO's.

Yeah but it wasn’t our dline who was wearing out. It was our backers who weren’t coming downhill instead they were stationary waiting for Rb. It has slowly been getting better with Guthrie being the best at downhill and Shy also doing the same. Whit is still catching but it’s a 2 to 3 yd catch and not 6-10 yd. our safeties took some bad angles that game too. Bottom line is this needs to be our next progression and it’s defense. If they are running rpo then 4-2 works if they are running down ur throat then run 4-3 and play aggressive at the lb spot and we could have won that game. We need more defense like Clemson’s. I have said this a thousand times but we are getting there so baby steps. Go orange.

 

[NKR1978]

The slack given to Devito on this board is absolutely insane. He’s been largely unimpressive in game action, with the exception of his performance vs UNC, a 1-8 team. He was great in that game.

Typical fan forum folks getting way too fired up about the number of stars given to recruits. The kid almost blew a 4TD lead in 5 mins against WMU.

How did he do against FSU?

Holding a grudge for mistakes in his first game action in almost two calandar years while ignoring the FSU game and downplaying his role against UNC seems agenda driven.

 

[TheCusian]

There’s no doubt that ND is more talented and are very good... They are top 3 and favored for a reason. We’ll need some TO luck. The bone of contention is the idea that we’ll need to be +3.

We understand how we lost to Clemson, lol. Our 1st year LB’s were not up to stopping their run game. But - they still needed a 4th down miracle throw from their backup QB in that drive. It was close.

When we played Clemson our offense was ranked in the 60’s. It’s in the 30’s now. We’re better than we were then.

Should be fun.

 

[TheCusian]

The slack given to Devito on this board is absolutely insane. He’s been largely unimpressive in game action, with the exception of his performance vs UNC, a 1-8 team. He was great in that game.

Typical fan forum folks getting way too fired up about the number of stars given to recruits. The kid almost blew a 4TD lead in 5 mins against WMU.

Lol. It’s obvious he has an arm we haven’t had on the hill in a long time. He’s played two halves and a couple of drives and lit it up.

What people are excited about isn’t just this performances straight up. It’s that plus his arm.

WMU was his 1st game.

 

[SmilinBob]

Here's something pretty exciting...SU gets to prove if it's better than ND on the field. I like that. No pundit talk. No "eye test". On the field. Let's lace em up and show who the better team is.