Next Year 2024 Schedule

[elimunelson]

If we are going to a 9 game schedule in the ACC, what team would be dropped from the schedule potentially? Holy Cross? UConn?

 

[TexanMark]

If we are going to a 9 game schedule in the ACC, what team would be dropped from the schedule potentially? Holy Cross? UConn?

9 game schedule might be tough too many ooc rivalry games

 

[cusefan88]

9 game schedule might be tough too many ooc rivalry games

There's 17 teams right? I forget which poster said it but might as well just 8-8 rotation schedule though I'll be unhappy if we lose Miami at home next year.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

There's 17 teams right? I forget which poster said it but might as well just 8-8 rotation schedule though I'll be unhappy if we lose Miami at home next year.

A lot of ACC teams have 4 historical games that they would like to play yearly. Going down to 3 when divisions went away was bad for tradition. Going from 3 to 0.0 would never happen. I don't even 2 would happen. Possible but not likely. I think 4 is the more likely outcome.

 

[elimunelson]

A lot of ACC teams have 4 historical games that they would like to play yearly. Going down to 3 when divisions went away was bad for tradition. Going from 3 to 0.0 would never happen. I don't even 2 would happen. Possible but not likely. I think 4 is the more likely outcome.

Feels like two rivals and 7 rotated every other year makes the most sense. Syracuse hopefully would get Pitt/BC. I suspect BC is going to get screwed by its proximity to Logan Airport. I would think the SF/Dallas teams will have an easier time flying there than say an outpost with multiple stops.

I suspect if we go to 9, then someone is getting dropped. Having a child at Holy Cross, I hope it's not the Crusaders. Looking fwd to wearing purple and orange next year at the Dome

 

[javadoc]

A lot of ACC teams have 4 historical games that they would like to play yearly. Going down to 3 when divisions went away was bad for tradition. Going from 3 to 0.0 would never happen. I don't even 2 would happen. Possible but not likely. I think 4 is the more likely outcome.

Give me some examples. I don't follow it enough to know, just curious.

 

[cusefan88]

A lot of ACC teams have 4 historical games that they would like to play yearly. Going down to 3 when divisions went away was bad for tradition. Going from 3 to 0.0 would never happen. I don't even 2 would happen. Possible but not likely. I think 4 is the more likely outcome.

Tradition is dead.

 

[djorange1989]

If we are going to a 9 game schedule in the ACC, what team would be dropped from the schedule potentially? Holy Cross? UConn?

It’s going to stay at 8 I am sure and I think they should just do an 8-8 and screw these permanent in-conference rival games

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Give me some examples. I don't follow it enough to know, just curious.

UNC alone has 4 opponents that they have played 100+ times. Most of the ACC schools have long histories playing each other. There is no way UVA, UNC, NC State, Duke vote for 0.

Staying at 3 is not possible mathematically (and neither is 1). So it is either 2 or 4. With 2 you play everyone 3 times over 7 years. With 4 you play everyone 1 time in 3 years. The problem with 2 is UNC is giving up an annual game with NC State or Duke, on top of not playing Wake.

This is assuming the ACC stays at 8 games. Going to 9 games changes things to every other year with 2 perms, and 5 times in 12 years with 4 perms. But then FSU, Clemson, Louisville, and GA Tech are not happy with 9 games. It also adds more trips out West for everyone.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

It’s going to stay at 8 I am sure and I think they should just do an 8-8 and screw these permanent in-conference rival games

You need 12 of 17 to agree to that. Outside of Louisville and SMU, who is going to vote to give up their annual rivalry game?

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Give me some examples. I don't follow it enough to know, just curious.

I think if you went to 9 games you could get the votes need for 2 + 7/7. Otherwise it will likely be 4 + 4/4/4.

ACC games played 50+ times by team:

BC: SU (55)
Clemson: Wake (88), NC State (87), GA Tech (86), UNC (57), Duke (54)
Duke: UNC (102), Wake (98), GA Tech (90), NC State (83), UVA (70), Clemson (54)
FSU: Miami (65)
GA Tech: Duke (90), Clemson (86), UNC (57)
Louisville: None
Miami: FSU (65)
UNC: UVA (117), Wake (105), Duke (102), NC State (102), Clemson (57), GA Tech (57)
NC State: Wake (115), UNC (102), Clemson (87), Duke (83), UVA (56)
Pitt: SU (78)
SU: Pitt (78), BC (55)
UVA: UNC (117), VA Tech (98), Duke (70), NC State (56), Wake (50)
VA Tech: UVA (98)
Wake: NC State (115), UNC (105), Duke (98), Clemson (88), UVA (50)
Cal: Stanford (102)
SMU: None
Stanford: Cal (102)

 

[HRE Otto IV]

While 9 games makes sense overall, it is really bad for the schools with SEC rivalries. Clemson is going to want 7 home games a year. They cannot have that with 9 ACC games. Also they will be playing 11 P4 games a year which hurts them and the ACC. Ditto with FSU, GA Tech, and Louisville.

 

[djorange1989]

You need 12 of 17 to agree to that. Outside of Louisville and SMU, who is going to vote to give up their annual rivalry game?

Why wouldn’t Syracuse be willing to stop playing BC/Pitt/FSU every season?

 

[djorange1989]

While 9 games makes sense overall, it is really bad for the schools with SEC rivalries. Clemson is going to want 7 home games a year. They cannot have that with 9 ACC games. Also they will be playing 11 P4 games a year which hurts them and the ACC. Ditto with FSU, GA Tech, and Louisville.

Agree so go to 8-8 and no permanent opponents within the ACC.

 

[UnknownOrange]

We have no rivalry games so we're fine

 

[TexanMark]

There's 17 teams right? I forget which poster said it but might as well just 8-8 rotation schedule though I'll be unhappy if we lose Miami at home next year.

Not sure that'll fly but it is easiest to do.

 

[elimunelson]

Agree so go to 8-8 and no permanent opponents within the ACC.

Hard to have a conf w no annual rivalries. It’s going to be 2 or 4 annual games.

I thought I read that we will only go west every other year. That can mean a few things scheduling wise

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Why wouldn’t Syracuse be willing to stop playing BC/Pitt/FSU every season?

Even if we would you need another 9 schools to agree.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Agree so go to 8-8 and no permanent opponents within the ACC.

There isn't an all mighty to dictate what happens. You need to have two thirds of the schools agree. When 12 want to have at least 2 perm rivals, good luck getting zero to pass.

 

[grepal]

our traditional rivals are Colgate and later Penn State. I would place WVU aheal of Pitt, so we really do not have a hot rival every year. It is nice for the elderly fan that we play Cogate, Now who is going to kidnap some Raiders and shave an S into their hair?

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Not sure that'll fly but it is easiest to do.

I think it has to be either 2 perm or 4 perm.

I don't see 9 conference games passing. The 4 with SEC rivals are a no. Stanford, Cal, SMU should be a no. I would think they rather have 4 OOC games to schedule regionally. BC and SU should feel that way as well.

 

[djorange1989]

There isn't an all mighty to dictate what happens. You need to have two thirds of the schools agree. When 12 want to have at least 2 perm rivals, good luck getting zero to pass.

I understand that, I just am saying I want 8-8, and I want it NOW!

 

[All4SU]

UNC alone has 4 opponents that they have played 100+ times. Most of the ACC schools have long histories playing each other. There is no way UVA, UNC, NC State, Duke vote for 0.

Staying at 3 is not possible mathematically (and neither is 1). So it is either 2 or 4. With 2 you play everyone 3 times over 7 years. With 4 you play everyone 1 time in 3 years. The problem with 2 is UNC is giving up an annual game with NC State or Duke, on top of not playing Wake.

This is assuming the ACC stays at 8 games. Going to 9 games changes things to every other year with 2 perms, and 5 times in 12 years with 4 perms. But then FSU, Clemson, Louisville, and GA Tech are not happy with 9 games. It also adds more trips out West for everyone.

The North Carolina centric aspect of the ACC has held the conference back forever. There are enough voting members now to override that nonsense.

 

[All4SU]

With an 8/8 schedule we could play one of BC/Pitt every year, one of the CA schools, two of the NC schools…

 

[HRE Otto IV]

The North Carolina centric aspect of the ACC has held the conference back forever. There are enough voting members now to override that nonsense.

Even without the NC schools...

Stanford wants to play Cal yearly
FSU wants to play Miami
Clemson wants to play GA Tech
VA Tech wants to play UVA

Why would any of those schools vote yes to 8-8? That is 12 No votes.