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Brady and Fallon aren't flying to Syracuse for less than 250K. When he had the Antetokounmpo bros during their season, it was probably even more. There isn't anything exclusive or interesting about it; they have an appearance fee, and he was willing to pay it. Do you think that is the best use of that money?

I don't know any details on his charitable giving, but if he was interested in meaningfully improving the program, it would be more like what Lally, Ensley, Miron, Carmelo, or tons of other donors who haven't put their names on things have done.

It's his damn money. So yes, it's great use of HIS money, because that's how he wanted to spend a fraction of it. I just don't understand why one thinks they should criticize how another person spends their own money. Really strange.

As for other donors, including Melo, who you say hasn't put their name on things...
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JB said Weitsman wasn’t a significant NIL donor. How does it help the program to have him spend money to pay celebrities to sit with him?
You don’t think casuals will turn out to see the kardashians?
 
It is Adam's money and he can do what he wants with it, but that's not the point. If he's trying to do the best thing for Syracuse University and their sports programs, flying in celebrities is pretty low on the list. In fact, it's inconsequential.

As for other donors, including Melo, who you say hasn't put their name on things..
And that wasn't the point of that post either. It's that there are significant donors who impact SU's mission, both those who do things publicly like putting their names on buildings as well those who DON'T put their names on things.
 
It is Adam's money and he can do what he wants with it, but that's not the point. If he's trying to do the best thing for Syracuse University and their sports programs, flying in celebrities is pretty low on the list. In fact, it's inconsequential.


And that wasn't the point of that post either. It's that there are significant donors who impact SU's mission, both those who do things publicly like putting their names on buildings as well those who DON'T put their names on things.
Totally agree. This is about Adam saying he is hanging with celebs and the press eat it up and promote him. I am surprised given his ego though that he hasn't tried to put his name on something. That seems right up his ally. Also done for selfish reasons, but in theory beneficial to SU as well. Tax deductible too! :)
 
melo is SU royalty and he’s trying to make the team and program better. Kent isn’t messing with him.
One thing i dont understand is that if his goal is to make the program better (versus just supporting his son while he is here and then jumping ship), why hasn't he been involved since NIL came to fruition? Wouldn't one think he would want to setup a good situation for his son to walk into?
 
It is Adam's money and he can do what he wants with it, but that's not the point. If he's trying to do the best thing for Syracuse University and their sports programs, flying in celebrities is pretty low on the list. In fact, it's inconsequential.
Yeah, it is the point. You say it yourself... it's his money and can do what he wants with it. He was doing just that. It's not up to Adam to do the best thing for Syracuse University. There are people employed by Syracuse who don't always do what's best for the sports programs. Adam spent some of his money in a way that some here don't like. Who cares. Again, it's his damn money.
 
It's his damn money. So yes, it's great use of HIS money, because that's how he wanted to spend a fraction of it. I just don't understand why one thinks they should criticize how another person spends their own money. Really strange.

As for other donors, including Melo, who you say hasn't put their name on things...
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Hes free to ask about getting his name on building just like everyone else. You still need to go through the right channels to do it. No one i know is criticizing his interest in the publicity, but more so focusing on the fact that he claimed on this very forum that it was about helping the community and the school. If that's what it was truly about then he shouldn't care if he gets publicity or not because that wasn't the (supposed) goal.
 
Brady and Fallon aren't flying to Syracuse for less than 250K. When he had the Antetokounmpo bros during their season, it was probably even more. There isn't anything exclusive or interesting about it; they have an appearance fee, and he was willing to pay it. Do you think that is the best use of that money?

I don't know any details on his charitable giving, but if he was interested in meaningfully improving the program, it would be more like what Lally, Ensley, Miron, Carmelo, or tons of other donors who haven't put their names on things have done.
My understanding is that Adam did give money to Tom Brady’s charity and Tom Brady brought Julian Edelman and Jimmy Fallon along. If you watch videos of that day, it contributed quite a bit to the game day experience. Check the comments to Adam’s Facebook post, they are overwhelmingly positive. He was bringing these celebrities long before there was NIL. Once NIL started, he wanted to help. He hired a lawyer specifically to make sure he didn’t break any rules. He also cleared everything through Syracuse University compliance. But, he got shut down before he could start.
 
It's his damn money. So yes, it's great use of HIS money, because that's how he wanted to spend a fraction of it. I just don't understand why one thinks they should criticize how another person spends their own money. Really strange.

As for other donors, including Melo, who you say hasn't put their name on things...
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i believe you misread that post. lally, miron, melo and ensley all have their names on things.

and the "tons of other donors who havent put their names on things" are separate of that.
 
HE'S THE ONE CLAIMING HE WANTS TO HELP THE UNIVERSITY!
He is not an alumnus of Syracuse University. He is a fan of Syracuse basketball, mostly. He wanted to help the program. He tried to do that a number of ways. It rubbed some important people the wrong way. A choice was made.
 
Does letting JB use his private plane at will for recruiting trips count for helping SU basketball?
How'd that work out for SU?
How he helps the university (and how much) is up to him to decide, not you or anyone else on this board.
I want to spray paint my name on the parking lots. Why not? It's my money, right? And I say that it helps the basketball program.
If you watch videos of that day, it contributed quite a bit to the game day experience
Syracuse got shellacked by UNC in that game. So, super fun game day experience.
 
One thing i dont understand is that if his goal is to make the program better (versus just supporting his son while he is here and then jumping ship), why hasn't he been involved since NIL came to fruition? Wouldn't one think he would want to setup a good situation for his son to walk into?
I think that's a fair question. I think some of it is timing. Melo just finished his career a few seasons ago and he's transitioning to civilian life as they say, I heard he has invested in Wine or something. So he has post playing career projects. He also has been focused on Kiyan's development and then recruitment. It sounds like Kiyan was likely coming to SU but they had to go through the process a bit and he just committed in November. He also needs to be smart with his money now that he doesn't have NBA contracts coming his way, so I don't begrudge him if he hasn't been contributing. He still contributed to the Melo Center when he initially got in the league so will always thank him for that.
 
One thing i dont understand is that if his goal is to make the program better (versus just supporting his son while he is here and then jumping ship), why hasn't he been involved since NIL came to fruition? Wouldn't one think he would want to setup a good situation for his son to walk into?
It’s year 2 for a new coach. Melo kept his distance so Red could run. The program, but has also been working with cuse companies since last year. People don’t know this but melo is here quite often. He’s just very under the radar but he has been helping since last year and Kiyan gives him a very big reason to hit the gas and ramp things up
 
Bringing celebrities to attend games and contributing NIL funding are different things. One doesn't have anything to do with the other.

As far as NIL, technically speaking NIL is intended as compensation for athletes in return for selling their names and images, by definition it WAS designed to be used for promotion, whether it's for a TV commercial, autograph signing or weekend appearance at a car dealership or whatever. As a business, if you want to help the program, and leverage something out of NIL, don't you want to have some say in it?

I mean, if you just sink say 1M into a collective and let the coaches spend the $ however he sees fit, fine, that's one way. On the other hand, you see two high profile players they are targeting, one is Pearl one is DeShaun, you feel like putting your $ on Pearl but not on DeShaun because you like one way better than the other, you would like to use Pearl in a TV commercial but you don't know about DeShaun, I do see reasons why some would donate to the collective where others want some control on the who's and how much. After all, you do want to leverage the "NIL out of the right player" for your business. I don't see any fault with that.

My feeling is that NIL should not have been allowed to be used for recruiting, NCAA knew that and didn't want it, but they were sued and punked by the court, and not only it caused those NIL auctions during the portal signings it also added to the massive turnovers in the portal every year as every kid looking for a bigger bag.

I wonder if we are going to see a drop in NIL next year for cuse after seeing now the fund was used to recruit Lampkin who's not a fit for Red's pace & space style and to retain Bell who didn't do much of anything, plus two players who are not contributing due to injury and the rest simply not playing defense...how many NIL collective donors are having second thoughts about whether their hard earned money will contribute into a winning product or whether Red is able to spend the NIL wisely and productively.
 
How'd that work out for SU?

I want to spray paint my name on the parking lots. Why not? It's my money, right? And I say that it helps the basketball program.

Syracuse got shellacked by UNC in that game. So, super fun game day experience.
“How’d that work out for SU?” Who cares? It was at great expense to AW, the results are not on him.
“Syracuse got shellacked…” An experience made enjoyable despite the loss for a great many fans as proven by the comments to Adam’s Facebook post.
 
It’s year 2 for a new coach. Melo kept his distance so Red could run. The program, but has also been working with cuse companies since last year. People don’t know this but melo is here quite often. He’s just very under the radar but he has been helping since last year and Kiyan gives him a very big reason to hit the gas and ramp things up
I might be misunderstanding, but why would Melo want to keep his distance; and why would him being around affect Red running the program? He could only be a positive and he's never been a coach so it wouldn't detract from Red's appearance. I think the first couple years it would have been the most helpful.
 
I was there at the Duke game 2 years ago when Damar Hamlin was his guest. When he got introduced it was the loudest ovation of the entire evening. No surprise though since we got blown out. But even in the ride home that’s what our car talked about at length, was that that was so cool he was in attendance.
 

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