For those who know how the NJ coaching network works, did we take a hit with TD & TH flaming out as they did?
I think it goes WAY further back from that, to the P / DeLeone era.
DeLeone was a presence in NJ. When they got fired, I think our "street cred" took a hit. Then, Gerg submarined our program at the same time Rutgers had their pretend ascent, and here we are.
They committed before the departures. I’m curious about what happens with prospects yet to decide. Coaches going to steer them away?Q Price begs to differ.
Ditto for LeQuint Allen.
They committed before the departures. I’m curious about what happens with prospects yet to decide. Coaches going to steer them away?
Pena yes!Two underachieving dudes from NJ shouldn't deter people from coming to Syracuse. Pena, Chestnut, and Lowery are all getting PT as underclassman.
Relying on 6-7 unknown quantities to come in and start every year is a fantastic way to torpedo a program.30% portals that can start for 1-2 years.
Hey it worked for Charlie Weis at Kansas. I mean, he made a lot of money so it worked out for him just fineRelying on 6-7 unknown quantities to come in and start every year is a fantastic way to torpedo a program.
DeVito's HS (Bosco) is in Bergen County, like 3 miles from the Rockland County, NY line. Harris' HS (Palmyra) is in Burlington County, just across the river from Philly. Not a ton of overlap there for it to make some solidifying anti-Cuse waves.For those who know how the NJ coaching network works, did we take a hit with TD & TH flaming out as they did?
They are not unknown after they have played 2 or 3 years of college ball. Much more defined than freshman recruits. How many are starting on this year's team? Shrader, Bliech, Roscoe, any more?Hey it worked for Charlie Weis at Kansas. I mean, he made a lot of money so it worked out for him just fine
Those were Juco guys, not 4 star recruits that played at major colleges or even guys who played at smaller colleges that turned out to be better than that. Juco guys usually have some serious flaws, that's why they ended up in Juco.Hey it worked for Charlie Weis at Kansas. I mean, he made a lot of money so it worked out for him just fine
Starting / playing doesn't mean they're good, especially on a bad team. And if they've played 2 years on a good team, they're likely to continue playing for said good team because they're already playing!They are not unknown after they have played 2 or 3 years of college ball. Much more defined than freshman recruits. How many are starting on this year's team? Shrader, Bliech, Roscoe, any more?
The big schools have 4 stars 4 deep and they may never see the field there. Guys who perform at the FCS or even D2&3 are better bets than a lot of high school guys. Why do you think in the pro leagues they go after free agents and make trades for players from triple-A, they are much more known and proven players. The portal is no different. It has been said here, ad nauseum, that you can't recruit here because of location. Well, make it known that Syracuse is a place to go to get a chance to showcase your abilities against very good teams and maybe give them what they need for the League to notice them. Get sponsors, use the NIL, this isn't collegiate sports as it has been known, but it seems like a good opportunity for Syracuse to exploit.Starting / playing doesn't mean they're good, especially on a bad team. And if they've played 2 years on a good team, they're likely to continue playing for said good team because they're already playing!
So you're proposing an NFL-like scouting operation? Why not just put the huge resources needed for that into beefing up HS recruiting?The big schools have 4 stars 4 deep and they may never see the field there. Guys who perform at the FCS or even D2&3 are better bets than a lot of high school guys. Why do you think in the pro leagues they go after free agents and make trades for players from triple-A, they are much more known and proven players. The portal is no different. It has been said here, ad nauseum, that you can't recruit here because of location. Well, make it known that Syracuse is a place to go to get a chance to showcase your abilities against very good teams and maybe give them what they need for the League to notice them. Get sponsors, use the NIL, this isn't collegiate sports as it has been known, but it seems like a good opportunity for Syracuse to exploit.
Actually Joe Rondi was but he hasn’t seen the field yet. Cuse coaches get more credit for taking guys like Rondi and Peña with NJ hs coaches - especially when Rutgers didn’t offer them.DeVito's HS (Bosco) is in Bergen County, like 3 miles from the Rockland County, NY line. Harris' HS (Palmyra) is in Burlington County, just across the river from Philly. Not a ton of overlap there for it to make some solidifying anti-Cuse waves.
That said, TD was the last recruit Syracuse got out of Bergen County. Most of the commits out of NJ are Philly-area or South Jersey.
Good point. There's a couple of guys from Wayne, which is North Jersey. When I said Bergen County, I was really thinking of the big name Catholic schools in that county.Actually Joe Rondi was but he hasn’t seen the field yet. Cuse coaches get more credit for taking guys like Rondi and Peña with NJ hs coaches - especially when Rutgers didn’t offer them.
I am worried about LeQuint. I know teams have been sniffing around because he’s having a big season. Hope we can hold onto him!