OT: Time for ND to join ACC?

[CuseOnly]

No way. CFB says to ESPN: we want to expand. ESPN says: how much?

The end.

ESPN right now basically owns the quarter finals games. 2 Quarter finals and the championship. Why couldn't the NCAA Championship sell the rights to the "regionals" where 8 teams play 4 games separately to say FOX or give ESPN the first right of refusal beforehand?

 

[TheCusian]

Expanding the playoffs to 8 wouldn't do anything to make ND join a conference. Only way ND joins a conference is if the NCAA or P5 mandate it. The P5 would not mandate it because the Big Ten wouldn't want to force ND into the ACC.

Right. That's what I've been saying. Expansion makes it way more unlikely.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Right. That's what I've been saying. Expansion makes it way more unlikely.

right, and I like the odds of the playoffs expanding better than the odds of Notre Dame joining a conference.

 

[Hoo's That]

Expanding the playoffs to 8 wouldn't do anything to make ND join a conference. Only way ND joins a conference is if the NCAA or P5 mandate it. The P5 would not mandate it because the Big Ten wouldn't want to force ND into the ACC.

Expanding to 8 makes it more likely that ND makes the playoff without a conference championship.

 

[Hoo's That]

ESPN right now basically owns the quarter finals games. 2 Quarter finals and the championship. Why couldn't the NCAA Championship sell the rights to the "regionals" where 8 teams play 4 games separately to say FOX or give ESPN the first right of refusal beforehand?

It's not an NCAA championship. They do not get dime one from any aspect of the FBS bowl games or the championship. They only own the TV rights to the D-1AA, D-2, and D-3 championship playoff games.

 

[CuseOnly]

It's not an NCAA championship. They do not get dime one from any aspect of the FBS bowl games or the championship. They only own the TV rights to the D-1AA, D-2, and D-3 championship playoff games.

S0, who is ESPN negotiating the deals with?

 

[TheCusian]

right, and I like the odds of the playoffs expanding better than the odds of Notre Dame joining a conference.

Me too. Never said anything to the contrary.

If it stays at 4 they're crazy not to join. If it goes to 8, they can stay independent.

 

[Alsacs]

S0, who is ESPN negotiating the deals with?

Athletic Directors and Presidents from the P5 and other conferences. VPI's president/chancellor was the chairman of the College Football Playoff Executive Committee.
The NCAA has no contractual financial control over the FBS postseason/bowls.
NCAA makes its about 80% if its TV money from the NCAA men's basketball tournament and then lumps the Women's' BB tourney /Men's baseball/women's softball/Lacrosse/track deals into one contract with ESPN.

 

[CuseOnly]

Athletic Directors and Presidents from the P5 and other conferences. VPI's president/chancellor was the chairman of the College Football Playoff Executive Committee.
The NCAA has no contractual financial control over the FBS postseason/bowls.
NCAA makes its about 80% if its TV money from the NCAA men's basketball tournament and then lumps the Women's' BB tourney /Men's baseball/women's softball/Lacrosse/track deals into one contract with ESPN.

I know all that, I should have said CFB Championship, not sure why I said NCAA...too many glasses of wine. The point still stands, why can't the P5 CFB Championship expand and sell the rights to the first 4 games to an 8 team playoff to another network if ESPN doesn't want it. Unless of course they negotiated it away in this first contract. My guess is they would have to give ESPN the first right of refusal, so expand and let them refuse and sell it to the highest bidder.

 

[Moontan]

There are two 6-year cycles in the current football playoff arrangement with the bowls. An 8-team playoff will appear at the end of one of those cycles. That would be after the 2019 or 2025 seasons.

ND knows this... they'll wait it out. An 8-year stretch of sub-.500 results could get them sell out.