Purdue’s top receiver ineligible

[OttoMets]

Do music performance majors end up with no life skills? What about drama majors?

Well to be fair, based on the drama majors I've met...

 

[OttoMets]

...Let’s not give them some goofy pretend degree too.

I mean, they already do that since coaches first decided they can't have their cattle wasting valuable sports time pursuing real courses of study. (Remember when even Saint Doug got dragged a couple years after he left for having steered kids out of engineering and some other hard science majors where labs conflicted with S&C?)

But generally yeah I agree with you.

 

[SWC75]

Maybe football and basketball players have delusions they will make the NFL or NBA but in other sports they are happy to get a real degree. I was a scholarship athlete. Never once did I think I should get college academic credits for practice and competition. I can’t even imagine how funny it would have been to our AD if I had suggested I should. Someone posted there are plenty of degrees to be had related to sports. That’s the right path IMO. Not giving out degrees for playing a sport. They will be paid in cash now through NIL deals. That is what they wanted. Let’s not give them some goofy pretend degree too.

Let's give them a real career instead of a goofy pretend degree.

We you playing a sport that could have produced a professional career?

 

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[xc84]

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Let's give them a real career instead of a goofy pretend degree.

We you playing a sport that could have produced a professional career?

Yes but like 99.9% of athletes, I was not at that caliber.

What had stopped a player from a professional sports career before this? Would a football degree improve their NFL chances?

 

[SWC75]

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Yes but like 99.9% of athletes, I was not at that caliber.

What had stopped a player from a professional sports career before this? Would a football degree improve their NFL chances?

It would allow them to focus on what they are really there for, instead of pretending that they are trying to become sociologists.

 

[AlaskaSUfan]

Curious… would you have gone to the school you did had it not been for your athletic scholarship?

I would not have. But I majored in psychology and pre-law which served me well over my careers.
Many I played with took “coaching” classes but also became Police officers or Corrections/Probation workers.
Team sports should teach you how to work with people over a lifetime. This is where coaching goes beyond wins and losses. Not sure the NCAA is there right now with a lot of the coaches out there and the NLI garbage they rolled out.

 

[AlaskaSUfan]

It would allow them to focus on what they are really there for, instead of pretending that they are trying to become sociologists.

Most of them would probably be more successful in life on the sociologist path. Or have a better chance at being successful then becoming a pro athlete.

 

[xc84]

It would allow them to focus on what they are really there for, instead of pretending that they are trying to become sociologists.

What would allow them to focus on what they are really there for?

 

[OttoMets]

Seems to me that many if not most overspecialized high-level athletes have spent a good chunk of their lives in a bubble where everyone bends over backwards to eliminate any obstacles to athletic success.

For whatever series of weird American reasons, they need to leverage a college or university to achieve the next level of success. OK. But if anything, they should be a little malleable and learn to work with the academy, not the other way around. That's what education and becoming a better citizen are all about.

 

[sutomcat]

Here is a Nebraska early preview of Purdue.

It believe it was written before it was known they were losing a starting safety.

Suspect OL. Little ability to run the ball. Terrific QB. Pretty good defense.

They sound a lot like Virginia except with a better defense.

Nebraska Opponent Spring Review: Purdue

We continue our opponent spring today with Purdue, which comes into this season with relatively high expectations.

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[storange]

Here is a Nebraska early preview of Purdue.

It believe it was written before it was known they were losing a starting safety.

Suspect OL. Little ability to run the ball. Terrific QB. Pretty good defense.

They sound a lot like Virginia except with a better defense.

Nebraska Opponent Spring Review: Purdue

We continue our opponent spring today with Purdue, which comes into this season with relatively high expectations.

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Purdue University also has its own airport, Which is nice.

 

[SWC75]

What would allow them to focus on what they are really there for?

Taking courses that would focus on a career in sports rather than taking other courses designed to keep them eligible. (A few years ago I made a list of the major on the SU football team and a lot of them were taking sociology. I doubt any of them became sociologists.)

 

[SWC75]

Here is a Nebraska early preview of Purdue.

It believe it was written before it was known they were losing a starting safety.

Suspect OL. Little ability to run the ball. Terrific QB. Pretty good defense.

They sound a lot like Virginia except with a better defense.

Nebraska Opponent Spring Review: Purdue

We continue our opponent spring today with Purdue, which comes into this season with relatively high expectations.

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Does it sound like 2004?

 

[OttoMets]

Taking courses that would focus on a career in sports rather than taking other courses designed to keep them eligible. (A few years ago I made a list of the major on the SU football team and a lot of them were taking sociology. I doubt any of them became sociologists.)

But you as much as anybody know that we're talking about college, not a vocational school.

 

[xc84]

Taking courses that would focus on a career in sports rather than taking other courses designed to keep them eligible. (A few years ago I made a list of the major on the SU football team and a lot of them were taking sociology. I doubt any of them became sociologists.)

I think we agree that they should not take easy courses just so they can remain eligible. What do you mean by "a career in sports"? Obviously students can and do take courses like Sports Management, or Sports analytics , etc that prepare them for a career in sports. What is it you want them to have that is in addition to what they already have available?

 

[SWC75]

But you as much as anybody know that we're talking about college, not a vocational school.

We are talking about athletes who view their sports as a potential profession.

 

[SWC75]

I think we agree that they should not take easy courses just so they can remain eligible. What do you mean by "a career in sports"? Obviously students can and do take courses like Sports Management, or Sports analytics , etc that prepare them for a career in sports. What is it you want them to have that is in addition to what they already have available?

I'm saying package everything relevant to a career in their sports and sports in general as a major, since that's what they are here for.

 

[xc84]

I'm saying package everything relevant to a career in their sports and sports in general as a major, since that's what they are here for.

I sincerely don't know what that means. Can you give an example of what that really means. Do they take any classes? What is their "major"? What is the "career"? Put together a pretend player and what they do for 4 years.

 

[Timonen]

I sincerely don't know what that means. Can you give an example of what that really means. Do they take any classes? What is their "major"? What is the "career"? Put together a pretend player and what they do for 4 years.

I’m surprised this one is so tricky to grasp. A real line of coursework for things that connect to the reason they’re here (which happens to be an exceptionally special talent). It can be finance. Org theory. Marketing. Etc etc. and also credit for the bottom line work being put in at the core sport (talent). All of that can be blended into a legit curriculum that wouldn’t be dissimilar to what a musician or drama student does, to say nothing of the even-more-nebulous track of “entrepreneurship “. Those things already exist and this would have some parallel and some unique paths.

 

[MSOrange]

Milton Wright no longer a part of Purdue's football program, per report

This isn't good.

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I bet Milton didn't even know this would generate so much discussion.

 

[xc84]

I’m surprised this one is so tricky to grasp. A real line of coursework for things that connect to the reason they’re here (which happens to be an exceptionally special talent). It can be finance. Org theory. Marketing. Etc etc. and also credit for the bottom line work being put in at the core sport (talent). All of that can be blended into a legit curriculum that wouldn’t be dissimilar to what a musician or drama student does, to say nothing of the even-more-nebulous track of “entrepreneurship “. Those things already exist and this would have some parallel and some unique paths.

I would need details to grasp and details have been in short supply. The devil is in the details.
How many credits would they get for their sport (practices)? Do football practices get grades or just pass/fail? Do they get extra credit for playing in a game? The rest of what you talk about are already available to them so that’s no change.

 

[xc84]

The bottomline is that right now they can take any courses they want and can tell employers “I have 4 years of playing football”. Will employers be more impressed if a school gives them football credit hours? I suggest it is just a watered down degree.

 

[SWC75]

The bottomline is that right now they can take any courses they want and can tell employers “I have 4 years of playing football”. Will employers be more impressed if a school gives them football credit hours? I suggest it is just a watered down degree.

They can tell employers the same thing if they have a degree in athletics or sport. The employers they are trying to get a job from are in sports. Their scholarships are athletic scholarships. Lawyers go to law school. Doctors go to medical school. Architects go to architectural school. Athletes with athletic scholarships go to Schools of athletics. the coursework would be anything they'll need to show to get jobs or need to know to conduct their career in that field or to get other jobs in that field, such as coach, trainer, broadcaster, agent, etc. Training their bodies and learning their sport is part of that. Sports is not an extracurricular activity for those seeking employment in that field.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Taking courses that would focus on a career in sports rather than taking other courses designed to keep them eligible. (A few years ago I made a list of the major on the SU football team and a lot of them were taking sociology. I doubt any of them became sociologists.)

My friend, I took sociology. I even got a master's of science in sociology.

Nobody becomes a sociologist.