Rex at it again

[Alsacs]

Your tinfoil hat is showing .

What are you talking about. Orangeman is implying the NFL destroyed the tapes without being transparent.

Roger Goodell had a press conference and showed the tapes to the media. However this destroyed tapes argument gets thrown out. TheCusian my friend go back to defending SS and Lester you know what your talking about when its SU sports.

 

[longislandcuse]

Totally agree about Taylor over Cassel. I saw Cassel actually have a couple good years here in KC.. But I think that Cassel is gone forever and Taylor is cheaper also.

Cassell has looked really good in preseason and if not for Taylor would have Bills fans clamoring for him. I'm just glad that, knock on wood, our QB situation has gone from "who sucks the least" to "who is the best".

Hurts a little to not have any of our good rb's out there but like alsacs said, Hogan and Goodwin are pretty good plus Deonta Thompson and Andre Davis have both flashed some in preseason.

 

[orangenirvana]

Your tinfoil hat is showing .

So is Peyton's, apparently. I mean, the *Patriots would never do something like this, right?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...eyton-manning-feared-pats-locker-rooms-bugged

 

[Alsacs]

So is Peyton's, apparently. I mean, the *Patriots would never do something like this, right?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...eyton-manning-feared-pats-locker-rooms-bugged

BB also advised Hillary Clinton on how to wipe her server, was on the grassy knoll, and was responsible for stock market crash in 2008.

This is just throwing crap when the team is down. It is obvious they bugged the opposing teams locker room like Col. Klink in the coffee pot in Hogan Hero's. Why wasn't the Patriots D any better from 2008-2013. I mean this nuts. I am sure you don't believe the rumors the Colts used to pipe in music in the old RCA Dome.

 

[TheCusian]

What are you talking about. Orangeman is implying the NFL destroyed the tapes without being transparent. Roger Goodell had a press conference and showed the tapes to the media. However this destroyed tapes argument gets thrown out. TheCusian my friend go back to defending SS and Lester you know what your talking about when its SU sports.

Thought you were talking about the first time the Pats were cheating. My bad.

 

[Alsacs]

Thought you were talking about the first time the Pats were cheating. My bad.

I was. Orangeman was implying the NFL destroyed the Spygate tapes and didn't show anything to anybody. When in fact back in 2007 the NFL had a PC and showed video footage from the tapes to the media.

He just doesn't remember that as it doesn't his narrative.

 

[TheCusian]

I was. Orangeman was implying the NFL destroyed the Spygate tapes and didn't show anything to anybody. When in fact back in 2007 the NFL had a PC and showed video footage from the tapes to the media. He just doesn't remember that as it doesn't his narrative.

Ahh - no worries. I'll take your advice and leave you to this mess .

 

[NateW]

Funny I enjoy funny playful jokes it is what makes sports fun.
However it is hilarious how people are letting their hatred of the Patriots get in the way of being fair analyzing this case.

And we think it's funny that those who knob slob the Pats can't admit they're cheaters. Goodell ain't gonna take the rings away so just relax. We all know that the Brady wanted those balls deflated. That's why 11 out of 12 of them were. I don't care if there is direct evidence or not. The Pats set the precedent with Spygate and that's why they and Brady got hit so hard.

 

[GoSU96]

Looks like Marrone hit the Bills with a curse on his way out the door.

Goodwin and Hogan go down on back to back plays.

 

[Alsacs]

And we think it's funny that those who knob slob the Pats can't admit they're cheaters. Goodell ain't gonna take the rings away so just relax. We all know that the Brady wanted those balls deflated. That's why 11 out of 12 of them were. I don't care if there is direct evidence or not. The Pats set the precedent with Spygate and that's why they and Brady got hit so hard.

You can think whatever you want. If you think they cheated I can't convince you otherwise. The NFL can't even prove anything happened. My god the NFL is studying the effects of ball deflation this year to see what happens.
Also, don't give me that Spygate crap if you read the Wells Report and actually followed this case objectively you see the NFL has nothing. The Denver Broncos cheated the Salary Cap when they won those 2 Elway Super Bowls I don't that see that is used against them and have people call them cheaters.
The fact you don't need direct evidence just shows me you want to conclude what you want to believe and not what the facts state.
The Wells Report is in context to the AFC title game. Their is no evidence anything manipulation took place. If you have followed the Court case you realize the Judge has shredded the NFL's attorneys and shown Goodell runs a kangaroo court, but since its against the Patriots that is fine.

If you want to punish somebody for doing something illegal you should have to prove they did something illegal. The NFL has leaked more lies in this case ever it is a joke how slanted they have been and not conducted an Independent investigation. They convicted them with the false leak from Mortensen and leaked more false information. Then made up a freaking standard of generally awareness which Judge Berman has shredded in open court and then called it a conspiracy without proving a conspiracy took place.I doubt the actual facts of the case matter to you. Goodell LIED in his 20 page ruling he blatantly misstated Brady's testimony because he thought the transcripts would stay sealed but the Federal court unsealed them and showed Goodell was unfair, lied about what actually happened and because people hate the Patriots its fine.

 

[NateW]

You can think whatever you want. If you think they cheated I can't convince you otherwise. The NFL can't even prove anything happened. My god the NFL is studying the effects of ball deflation this year to see what happens.
Also, don't give me that Spygate crap if you read the Wells Report and actually followed this case objectively you see the NFL has nothing. The Denver Broncos cheated the Salary Cap when they won those 2 Elway Super Bowls I don't that see that is used against them and have people call them cheaters.
The fact you don't need direct evidence just shows me you want to conclude what you want to believe and not what the facts state.
The Wells Report is in context to the AFC title game. Their is no evidence anything manipulation took place. If you have followed the Court case you realize the Judge has shredded the NFL's attorneys and shown Goodell runs a kangaroo court, but since its against the Patriots that is fine.

If you want to punish somebody for doing something illegal you should have to prove they did something illegal. The NFL has leaked more lies in this case ever it is a joke how slanted they have been and not conducted an Independent investigation. They convicted them with the false leak from Mortensen and leaked more false information. Then made up a freaking standard of generally awareness which Judge Berman has shredded in open court and then called it a conspiracy without proving a conspiracy took place.I doubt the actual facts of the case matter to you. Goodell LIED in his 20 page ruling he blatantly misstated Brady's testimony because he thought the transcripts would stay sealed but the Federal court unsealed them and showed Goodell was unfair, lied about what actually happened and because people hate the Patriots its fine.

Yeah, they were deflated cuz it was a cold rainy day. Colts balls weren't, hmm. You pats fans are too funny. I think it's awesome you're on here trying to prove how everyone else is wrong and you're right. Oh and Goodell, for no good reason, has it out for his bff Kraft and golden boy Brady. Shows just how big of a stain and smell there is surrounding everything the Pats have accomplished.

Now don't get me wrong Bill and Tom are both G.O.A.T. but they are cheaters too.

 

[Alsacs]

Yeah, they were deflated cuz it was a cold rainy day. Colts balls weren't, hmm. You pats fans are too funny. I think it's awesome you're on here trying to prove how everyone else is wrong and you're right. Oh and Goodell, for no good reason, has it out for his bff Kraft and golden boy Brady. Shows just how big of a stain and smell there is surrounding everything the Pats have accomplished.

Now don't get me wrong Bill and Tom are both G.O.A.T. but they are cheaters too.

Don't let the facts get in your way. My god how can't you know that the 3 of the 4 Indy balls that were tested were below the 12.5 legal limit. I won't even get into the science as I doubt you care.
I mean please just say listen I hate the Pats and I am happy they are getting hammered. Your post is why the NFL has won because people have no idea about the actual facts and don't care.

You have no idea why Goodell is doing this? Irsay, Biscotti, Woody are pushing him. Goodell got hammered for how weak he was on Rice and people killed him. I will say no more as it will go nowhere.

 

[Alsacs]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/roger-...aves-nfl-on-slippery-slope-214409591-nfl.html

 

[Orangeman]

I was. Orangeman was implying the NFL destroyed the Spygate tapes and didn't show anything to anybody. When in fact back in 2007 the NFL had a PC and showed video footage from the tapes to the media. He just doesn't remember that as it doesn't his narrative.

You must realize this is meaningless

How many tapes were there? How long were they? How many weren't handed over? Why on earth were they destroyed in 3 days if there was nothing to hide?

This was a systemic program that was snowed in by a guy who was part of the system but got a head coaching job with the Jets and realized he had to stop the cycle if he was gonna keep his job.

Did they show all the footage in that conference room? No freakin way, we're prob talking hundreds of hours. You seem like a smart guy, do you think the NFL provided ALL that footage when they were still in cover up mode? Doubtful

The Patriots have now been caught cheating at least twice that we know of...patterns and motivations are important if you want to get to the bottom of something.

Im telling you, Brady messed up when he insulted Harbaugh on knowing the rule book. The rest of the league recognized it for what it was...an over reach of the unwritten agreement.

There is no other explanation for all this.

 

[NateW]

Don't let the facts get in your way. My god how can't you know that the 3 of the 4 Indy balls that were tested were below the 12.5 legal limit. I won't even get into the science as I doubt you care.
I mean please just say listen I hate the Pats and I am happy they are getting hammered. Your post is why the NFL has won because people have no idea about the actual facts and don't care.

You have no idea why Goodell is doing this? Irsay, Biscotti, Woody are pushing him. Goodell got hammered for how weak he was on Rice and people killed him. I will say no more as it will go nowhere.

Lol

I hope you find that second gunmen on the grassy knoll.

 

[orangenirvana]

Im telling you, Brady messed up when he insulted Harbaugh on knowing the rule book. The rest of the league recognized it for what it was...an over reach of the unwritten agreement.

Yeah - whether Brady cheated or not, he really is a hateable douche. Even his biggest fanboys can admit that.

 

[Alsacs]

Lol

I hope you find that second gunmen on the grassy knoll.

I am dead serious do me a favor since we are both Syracuse fans if you going to make statements like please don't respond to me on this subject. I can't say anything to you. You don't know the facts or care about the facts I have presented.

It will do no good to respond to me.

 

[Alsacs]

You must realize this is meaningless

How many tapes were there? How long were they? How many weren't handed over? Why on earth were they destroyed in 3 days if there was nothing to hide?

This was a systemic program that was snowed in by a guy who was part of the system but got a head coaching job with the Jets and realized he had to stop the cycle if he was gonna keep his job.

Did they show all the footage in that conference room? No freakin way, we're prob talking hundreds of hours. You seem like a smart guy, do you think the NFL provided ALL that footage when they were still in cover up mode? Doubtful

The Patriots have now been caught cheating at least twice that we know of...patterns and motivations are important if you want to get to the bottom of something.

Im telling you, Brady messed up when he insulted Harbaugh on knowing the rule book. The rest of the league recognized it for what it was...an over reach of the unwritten agreement.

There is no other explanation for all this.

So the NFL has to show every clip from every tape or your not happy? C'mon on this position is such a joke. They showed a lot of footage at that press conference. I bet you didn't even know that. You move the goalposts each post on this subject.

The media were informed on the tapes. The rest of your post is your opinion which is fine but honestly I am getting sick of how people can't even be objective on this case. It is amazing how people don't even know the facts of this case and just want to scream Spygate.

Bill Belichick is going to accused of being D.B. Cooper next.

 

[longislandcuse]

Taylor looked pretty good out there given the fact he had PS Running Backs and our 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th WRs to work with.

I feel bad for EJ. He looks much improved but it's tough to showcase much when you're running for your life behind the 2nd/3rd string offensive line. He's still inconsistent (short armed throw to Felton and the red zone fumble) but then makes 3 incredible throws around the goal line and showed good pocket presence under the circumstances.

 

[shandeezy7]

Taylor looked pretty good out there given the fact he had PS Running Backs and our 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th WRs to work with.

I feel bad for EJ. He looks much improved but it's tough to showcase much when you're running for your life behind the 2nd/3rd string offensive line. He's still inconsistent (short armed throw to Felton and the red zone fumble) but then makes 3 incredible throws around the goal line and showed good pocket presence under the circumstances.

I'd be surprised if EJ didn't get a chance to run with the 1st stringers before the end of the preseason.

 

[orangenirvana]

I'd be surprised if EJ didn't get a chance to run with the 1st stringers before the end of the preseason.

Prepare for a surprise.

 

[Tobias Funke]

Yeah - whether Brady cheated or not, he really is a hateable douche. Even his biggest fanboys can admit that.

I'll take a hateable Tom Brady over a likable EJ manual every day of the week. I get hating him as a player and a competitor, but the guy just does fantastic things in the community, and is friendly with other players, doesn't bad mouth other teams/players publicly. but i fully understand it because i hated Jeter for a long time, until i realized he is a guy i would want on my team in a heart beat.

 

[Alsacs]

I'll take a hateable Tom Brady over a likable EJ manual every day of the week. I get hating him as a player and a competitor, but the guy just does fantastic things in the community, and is friendly with other players, doesn't bad mouth other teams/players publicly. but i fully understand it because i hated Jeter for a long time, until i realized he is a guy i would want on my team in a heart beat.

Honestly you are going to get frustrated responding in this thread. I can't believe how ill-informed everyone is and can't see this case is a joke. People don't know or care to know the actual facts and just want to scream Spygate so your guilty.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Honestly you are going to get frustrated responding in this thread. I can't believe how ill-informed everyone is and can't see this case is a joke. People don't know or care to know the actual facts and just want to scream Spygate so your guilty.

I am totally with you on this case. It's pretty clear that the NFL acted recklessly and arrogantly as usual.

 

[orangenirvana]

I'll take a hateable Tom Brady over a likable EJ manual every day of the week. I get hating him as a player and a competitor, but the guy just does fantastic things in the community, and is friendly with other players, doesn't bad mouth other teams/players publicly. but i fully understand it because i hated Jeter for a long time, until i realized he is a guy i would want on my team in a heart beat.

John Harbaugh and many others would beg to differ.

And btw - there's a monumental difference between thinking someone is a hateable douche and not wanting him on your team. Of course I'd want him on my team - then he'd be our hateable douche prone to five-year old style tantrums!