Smoke or BS in CT (B1G)?

[sdhusky]

all the big 10 reporters and scott grey gets the scoop? Don't think so.

He is an idiot.

 

[BlazeOrange]

You'd split your money, largely generated by football, with a basketball program just because they've won national titles? There's really no guarantee they'd win another one. Maybe they could get Johns Hopkins in a package deal, grab some lax titles?

umm...
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9337596/big-ten-add-lacrosse-johns-hopkins-affiliate

 

[NKR1978]

Don't think so. May happen eventually.

However... I will say this - the B1G has done a much better job of keeping things quiet, so anything is possible.

The best job anyone did of keeping things quiet was the ACC and when they added Cuse and Pitt. Makes sense though after the complete cluster**** their first expansion was along with the Pac 12 mess the year before. B1G and Nebraska wasn't a smooth ride either. Rumors about Maryland and Rutgers were out for a while. Louosville doesn't count since that was a cattle call with them and Storrs and everyone knew one of them would get the call.

 

[Jeepers]

umm...
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9337596/big-ten-add-lacrosse-johns-hopkins-affiliate

Was going to mention that too, then thought maybe it was sarcasm. :noidea:

 

[Alsacs]

Of course the amount is news. It's critically important. If the BTN is getting 15 cents instead of 1 dollar, that's a totally different calculus in determining if their move into NJ was worth it.

Throughout the past 10 years of realignment and media speculation, the figures people throw around online are often utterly ludicrous.

The amount matters of course, but if we are talking about UConn to the B1G then the fact that the B1G/BTN was able to negotiate a deal 4 months before the CFB season shows that UConn being the B1G isn't necessary. UConn doesn't have the FB cache to warrant B1G merit thus unless they were needed for NYC cable boxes they aren't going to be a viable target.

 

[rrlbees]

I always thought SU and UConn would be ACC and Rutgers B10. So I'll stick with that. But if it is true, that means the B10 has given up their dream of Texas and ND. But then it could keep the ACC in the running for that dream, even if remote. As much as we bust UConns chops and despise their trolls, they'll be in a P5 eventually.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

I don't see any school going anywhere for the time being.

That being said, if i were Swofford, every morning my first call would be to the AD at Texas. Every evening my last call would be to the President of UT. Texas holds the key to all future expansion. The biggest fish and a viable option for all four power conferences.

 

[baggerbob]

How do you make the football schools FSU and Clemson say yes to that Mark?

By getting back to what we've done for the past 50+ years beating them. Ben built the program up, and did it, Mac came along , and did the same. The problems started by Jake hiring on the cheap with Paul who was a great position coach, but not the person to be the head coach. Then the fiasco with Grob, but Doug started the road back, and Scott like Ben, and Mac before him, won't be satisfied with anything less then beating them.

 

[Jeepers]

Not much to add, since most has already been said. Seriously doubt this is happening now.

I do think UConn could be in the b10 some day, but I think there won't be another shuffle for a long time unless it involves Texas directly or indirectly (i.e. the other b12 schools bailing).

 

[Scooch]

So who's the 16th team joining with UConn? Did the Colombo who cracked this case bother to include that necessary detail?

 

[TexanMark]

Sounds like the original poster in the link was trolling. No one can substantiate it. Deja Vu all over again #WVDUDE

 

[Chip]

umm...
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9337596/big-ten-add-lacrosse-johns-hopkins-affiliate

Thought I kind of remembered something around this... So I guess if the B1G wants to go the hoops only route, a UConn move would make a lot of sense.

 

[IthacaMatt]

So who's the 16th team joining with UConn? Did the Colombo who cracked this case bother to include that necessary detail?

If I was the Big 10, the only other school I'd look at is Oklahoma.

 

[NashvilleOrange]

If I was the Big 10, the only other school I'd look at is Oklahoma.

Yeah, I'm sure they'd love Virginia or UNC, maybe Missouri if they could have a do-over but Oklahoma would be a big win for them. For all the talk of Kansas, their football is awful, low population and falling academics. They have a 93% acceptance rate; kind of shows that AAU status doesn't always equal a top notch undergraduate program.

 

[TheCusian]

The only way it makes sense is if they were trying to drop Rutgers in favor of UCONN... (Like saying you'd rather have the runs than vomit). And that ship has sailed, I think.

 

[WoadBlue]

UConn would just be a shot across the ACC bow. An NC or VA school would be the direct hit.

Part of me thinks this is just a scare technique by the Big 10 to get the ACC to jump and grab UConn thus pissing off the football schools.

Entirely possible.

The Big Ten in taking Maryland and Rutgers has significantly watered down its football reputation, as well as dropped its league average attendance. That pair is not going to be hosting Penn St every week.

UConn provides nothing the Big Ten needs. It already has east coast presence to maximize payments for the BTN. The BT leads the nation in average attendance for basketball, and if it becomes even half east coast based, it likely loses its hold over midwest basketball fans.

Delany is an ego monster, and he might be crazy enough to make a wild move to try to hit at Swofford and the ACC. But if he is smart, and he can persuade the BT schools to go to 15, the wisest choice is clearly Kansas. KU is a much older hoops name than UConn, and it has a much more positive national reputation and drawing power. More important, KU would mean the Kansa City TV market, and the BT needs that market (well, half of it) to put a stop sign on the SEC. That and KU's long history with Nebraska in all sports would be the perfect choice to make the western half of the BT happy.

And adding KU would open the door to the possibility of later adding OU, which is something that BT football must have in order to ever hope to look the SEC in the eye again.

 

[WoadBlue]

I don't see any school going anywhere for the time being.

That being said, if i were Swofford, every morning my first call would be to the AD at Texas. Every evening my last call would be to the President of UT. Texas holds the key to all future expansion. The biggest fish and a viable option for all four power conferences.

I would bet that Texas is well aware that if it were to want a deal like ND's, 5/8ths membership in football, that Swofford would back its desire.

 

[BlazeOrange]

The only way it makes sense is if they were trying to drop Rutgers in favor of UCONN... (Like saying you'd rather have the runs than vomit). And that ship has sailed, I think.

Could be formulating a backup plan in case the RU dumpster fire turns into a raging tire fire and becomes too much to take. Or just a not so subtle message to RU to get their "stuff" in order as we still have options.

 

[sdhusky]

Could be formulating a backup plan in case the RU dumpster fire turns into a raging tire fire and becomes too much to take. Or just a not so subtle message to RU to get their "stuff" in order as we still have options.

I think Delaney is taking the long view with Rutgers.

He thinks that if they pump B1G money into that program and have the likes of Penn St, Ohio St, MI, Nebraska coming to NJ, it will turn things around.

He might be right, but nobody has ever gotten poor by betting against Rutgers.

 

[Scooch]

I think Delaney is taking the long view with Rutgers.

He thinks that if they pump B1G money into that program and have the likes of Penn St, Ohio St, MI, Nebraska coming to NJ, it will turn things around.

He might be right, but nobody has ever gotten poor by betting against Rutgers.

I don't think Delaney gives much of a crap about what Rutgers does on the field.

He cares about...

...and...

...and...

 

[GoSU96]

Well, if true, that didn't take long.

Not surprised, really.

The B1G has been beating the ACC to the punch every chance it gets.

This would lock up the NY market for the B1G.

From an institutional perspective the ACC is a better fit than the BIG for SU. More private and mid sized schools instead of giant State U's. SU can compete on an equal footing in terms of resources and revenue.

 

[Scooch]

From an institutional perspective the ACC is a better fit than the BIG for SU. More private and mid sized schools instead of giant State U's. SU can compete on an equal footing in terms of resources and revenue.

I'm also trying to envision a world where:

((Rutgers + Maryland)) - ((Syracuse + Pitt + Notre Dame + Louisvile) * (hoops tourney in DC and NYC / hoops tourney in DC) * (reigning football national champion)) = being beaten to the punch every chance they get.

 

[Chip]

I'm also trying to envision a world where:

((Rutgers + Maryland)) / ((Syracuse + Pitt + Notre Dame + Louisvile) * (hoops tourney in DC / hoops tourney in DC and NYC) * (reigning football national champion)) = being beaten to the punch every chance they get.

I like this to the nth power, because you so inexplicably left exponents out of the formula.

To the post above about the B1G thinking they can make Rutgers better by pumping more money into them and having big schools visit, how exactly is that plan working for, say, Minnesota football, or Illinois football, or Indiana football, or Purdue football, or should I continue?

 

[NashvilleOrange]

I like this to the nth power, because you so inexplicably left exponents out of the formula.

To the post above about the B1G thinking they can make Rutgers better by pumping more money into them and having big schools visit, how exactly is that plan working for, say, Minnesota football, or Illinois football, or Indiana football, or Purdue football, or should I continue?

Rutgers is also getting a much smaller share than their B1g competition. While paying back their debts, they'll fall way back behind their conference competition.

 

[rrlbees]

Looked at the boneyard quickly to see their thoughts, and while there is a thread on it, the conversation over there is dominated by a twice as long thread about how they will sue the P5 if they get left out. Lol. How'd that work out last time.