So what's TD do from here?

[007]

I certainly never considered him married , but I wonder how Devito was his 1 major recruiting coup went into the thinking even if Dino would never admit to it? Just a thought.

It should never enter his thinking after the recruiting process. I seriously doubt that it does. If Babers is not evaluating and recruiting the best QBs he can every single cycle and then playing the best available option(s) he deems gives the TEAM the best chance of winning, then we have a much bigger issue. It just defies reason, to my way of thinking anyway, to believe that any coach at this level with so much at stake (including his employment) would be "married to" playing a particular player regardless and in spite of productivity or performance outcomes.

 

[OrangeDW]

A QB who doesn't turn the ball over!? He dropped 4-5 snaps and threw a few passes to the defense who just couldn't catch them. He certainly tried many times to turn the ball over.

Huh? Those snaps were horrible. He saved us from disaster many times by handling them.

 

[AngryOtto]

And I think we win by 14 with TD. agree to disagree

Disagree

 

[MikeSU02]

He's 23, can't see him playing another year, he has to be disappointed/miserable. We know his Dad... Interesting few months for that player.

Be the backup. Be a good teammate. Work to get his spot back.

If he wants to transfer, so be it. Would wish him good luck.

Just like I'd say about *any* player that lost his starting spot.

Not sure why anything would be different in the treatment of Tommy versus any other player.

 

[AngryOtto]

Based on what everyone has seen, I’d bet Schiano has a higher bar for a senior transfer. Imagine there are some recruiting/relationship reasons to throw him a bone but I don’t think he needs that.

I don’t think his story is done here. He’ll get more chances this year.

Rutgers has a 96 qb coming in this spring.

 

[AngryOtto]

How many catches did we have by wideouts past the line of scrimmage yesterday 2 maybe 3. I hate this kind of offense. I wonder who the WRs want taking snaps?

Taj wants TD because he is the only one that gets the ball.

 

[phil77]

Who cares what Taj wants?

 

[P Vasiloff]

Taj wants TD because he is the only one that gets the ball.

Alford might disagree with you.

 

[Briancuse]

Monmouth, maybe Hofstra

No shame in putting up stats in FCS

Hofstra got rid of the program years ago.

 

[SWC75]

Huh? Those snaps were horrible. He saved us from disaster many times by handling them.

Agree. I didn't see a dropped snap. I saw 6-8 saves by GS.

 

[RandomGuy]

How many catches did we have by wideouts past the line of scrimmage yesterday 2 maybe 3. I hate this kind of offense. I wonder who the WRs want taking snaps?

Two completions past the LOS

 

[RandomGuy]

Our offense didn't win that game. The defense rose up and made some great plays to prevent them from scoring and set Szmyt up, But our offense, which was good for three quarters, was losing that game in the fourth because it's too limited. Maybe Schrader will improve or maybe we'll got back to DeVito in some situations but what we saw last night would not win most of our games.

After the opening 3rd Q drive, we had 5 possessions. 2 1st downs. 45 yards. 9 yards/ possession. When they know you can't Pass? Things change quickly.

 

[AZOrange]

Everything coming out of Babers mouth right now is pure coach speak. Unless you’ve been in one of these two guys positions you wouldnt know what you’re watching and hearing.
This is Shredders team once and for all…

 

[syrBossHogg]

Normally hate the social media stuff buuuuuuuuut...

 

[IthacaMatt]

Devito can also hand off, but he can also pass.

Once in a while, yes, he can hit a pass. For every completion, there's a sack, or a throw short of the down marker, or running out of bounds for a loss instead of just throwing the ball away.

 

[All4SU]

They just did - against a team that had a strong 2020 season, a bowl win, came in undefeated, has a QB with good all-around skills.

Can’t under estimate the value of a good defense, a top RB, a QB who does not turn the ball over, and who make plays with his feet in the red zone. Not pretty, but it gives us a chance.

The red zone point is perhaps the most relative, I think. This is not a knock on TD, but there is no doubt our red zone efficiency is better with GS. Of course, you have to actually GET to the red zone to make that significant. So the question is, does TD give us more opportunity to move the ball between the 20s? I have supported TD, I still do. The kid seems to just want to win like everyone else. But right now it seems like sustaining drives is everything. But SU is not built for that. No matter who the QB is, I think we will be wildly inconsistent sustaining drives. Which means, when we DO get to the red zone, we need points desperately.

There! That’s enough equivocation for one morning.

 

[tptcuse]

According to dino at the PC there was no plan to give TD reps against liberty. The way he is talking about this feels like we aren’t running a 2 QB system. I imagine he supports the team throughout the year wether he starts or not and then looks for a place he can start wether it’s G5 or FCS

I believe he only said that Shrader would start. Nothing about reps.

 

[All4SU]

Huh? Those snaps were horrible. He saved us from disaster many times by handling them.

I do think GS appeared to get more comfortable with the bad snaps as the game went in. There was one particular play, can’t remember when, where he snatched the high snap out of the air with one hand, without panic, and made the clean handoff to ST. Kept the play from slowing down.

 

[RandomGuy]

Once in a while, yes, he can hit a pass. For every completion, there's a sack, or a throw short of the down marker, or running out of bounds for a loss instead of just throwing the ball away.

If you are talking about 19, when our oline didn't know what a blitz was, or how to pick it up? When we all complained about no slants/short passes to help him? Or when we had a FB on the line, and they graded even worse? When we still seemed to call a bomb way too often, and not help the QB? Well then, yes. I agree.

If you are talking about this year? With 14 runs for 7.6 YPC? With a higher completion % than Shrader when pressured? I disagree.

 

[IthacaMatt]

TD is facing adversity. Hopefully the answer is he bucks up and does whatever he needs to do to help the team win. Hopefully he uses the adversity to help himself get better .

"I've shown enough to deserve to start" doesn't speak to that. At all.

 

[IthacaMatt]

If you are talking about 19, when our oline didn't know what a blitz was, or how to pick it up? When we all complained about no slants/short passes to help him? Or when we had a FB on the line, and they graded even worse? When we still seemed to call a bomb way too often, and not help the QB? Well then, yes. I agree.

If you are talking about this year? With 14 runs for 7.6 YPC? With a higher completion % than Shrader when pressured? I disagree.

We've been watching Tommy for 4 years. That's what I'm talking about.

He throws short of the down marker, takes unnecessary sacks, has no pocket presence, runs out of bounds when flushed from the pocket instead of throwing it away.

EVERY SINGLE YEAR. It's who he is.

 

[RMH44]

If you are talking about 19, when our oline didn't know what a blitz was, or how to pick it up? When we all complained about no slants/short passes to help him? Or when we had a FB on the line, and they graded even worse? When we still seemed to call a bomb way too often, and not help the QB? Well then, yes. I agree.

If you are talking about this year? With 14 runs for 7.6 YPC? With a higher completion % than Shrader when pressured? I disagree.

What you're leaving out is that most pass plays have a vertical component. Unfortunately, TD is always looking for the homerun and rarely checks down to the safe receiver. He simply has difficulty making decisions at the LOS.

 

[orangecuse]

Close your eyes...and imagine a fast, dynamic, offense going up and down the field scoring lots of points.
I do want to close my eyes but not for that reason...

Ha! Not to mention his swollen/bloated head at the time with his "3rd year, 4th game" time frame malarkey relative to our (his) offense churning and burning. This is YEAR SIX! What a complete & utter imposter he has been IMO.

 

[OrangeDW]

Ha! Not to mention his swollen/bloated head at the time with his "3rd year, 4th game" time frame malarkey relative to our (his) offense churning and burning. This is YEAR SIX! What a complete & utter imposter he has been IMO.

You know we won this week, right?

 

[GoSU96]

Once in a while, yes, he can hit a pass. For every completion, there's a sack, or a throw short of the down marker, or running out of bounds for a loss instead of just throwing the ball away.

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