This is why 99% of kids

[GoSU96]

Should be aiming to get out of their experience

 

[CuseLegacy]

 

[OttoinGrotto]

We live in a wonderful time when they can both achieve a degree and have financial opportunities along the way that were unjustly withheld from previous generations of student-athletes.

 

[All4SU]

We live in a wonderful time when they can both achieve a degree and have financial opportunities along the way that were unjustly withheld from previous generations of student-athletes.

Meh, I don’t think it was unjust at all. The money in CFB is just insane now. Up until the 90s or so, players had a great opportunity to get a quality education, make life-long friends and contacts, and have a CHANCE to play professionally. There was nothing wrong with that. If they didn’t maximize their opportunities, that was on them.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Josh's mom.

 

[bnoro]

Meh, I don’t think it was unjust at all. The money in CFB is just insane now. Up until the 90s or so, players had a great opportunity to get a quality education, make life-long friends and contacts, and have a CHANCE to play professionally. There was nothing wrong with that. If they didn’t maximize their opportunities, that was on them.

A "quality education and lifelong friends" while schools made millions and millions of dollars off of their name, image, and likeness. Fair trade-off

They WEREN'T ALLOWED to maximize their opportunities. Couldn't even sign autographs for $100. If a kid didn't have the talent to go pro, they couldn't make any money to set themselves up for the future.

It's crazy, for all the people that scream capitalism is good, they sure don't like it when the workers want to be paid for their sacrifices.

 

[Todoubled23]

A "quality education and lifelong friends" while schools made millions and millions of dollars off of their name, image, and likeness. Fair trade-off

They WEREN'T ALLOWED to maximize their opportunities. Couldn't even sign autographs for $100. If a kid didn't have the talent to go pro, they couldn't make any money to set themselves up for the future.

It's crazy, for all the people that scream capitalism is good, they sure don't like it when the workers want to be paid for their sacrifices.

I remember walking with a former girlfriend who played tennis at SU years ago. She refused to take a pair of the cheapest headphones of all time for free from someone promoting an on campus event that week.

Waking up hours before most students to practice or work out, breakfast, classes for hours, lunch, meeting with trainers or staff, then maybe more class, practice after or a match, dinner, homework, bed.

All while being forbidden making any money or taking anything from people. Wild stuff and requiring a whole lot of dedication and sacrifice FOR A NON REVENUE SPORT.

 

[SUFan44]

They should be allowed to make money from their Name, Image & Likeness.

The collective stuff is not what was intended and is a sham. Devalues education and all of the other amenities they receive as student-athletes.

If I am a school and these kids are getting paid for playing, and want to be treated as pros, then they’d be on the hook for their own publicist, nutritionist, personal trainer, housing, and majority of their meals. Those haven’t come free, and are part of the package.

Welcome to the real world.

 

[Cuse181]

Meh, I don’t think it was unjust at all. The money in CFB is just insane now. Up until the 90s or so, players had a great opportunity to get a quality education, make life-long friends and contacts, and have a CHANCE to play professionally. There was nothing wrong with that. If they didn’t maximize their opportunities, that was on them.

Solid boomer take.

The minute football began to bring in more money than it cost to run the program (scholarships included) the players deserved a cut. A college degree has been a dime a dozen for 30 years

 

[Sudano]

A "quality education and lifelong friends" while schools made millions and millions of dollars off of their name, image, and likeness. Fair trade-off

They WEREN'T ALLOWED to maximize their opportunities. Couldn't even sign autographs for $100. If a kid didn't have the talent to go pro, they couldn't make any money to set themselves up for the future.

It's crazy, for all the people that scream capitalism is good, they sure don't like it when the workers want to be paid for their sacrifices.

Wow what a take on Graduation Day, First off Universities don't make millions from backup centers from the 70th best team in college football and why does everyone ignore getting paid enough for a free full education, room and board, No one is paying $100 for an autograph for 90% of all scholarship players.
If you really think college athletes never got paid, then go ahead and let them pay for college themselves and pay them a salary and see how many players take that tradeoff.
No one thinks they get paid what their worth, everyone thinks they are underpaid, everyone's a victim.

 

[SUFan44]

I remember walking with a former girlfriend who played tennis at SU years ago. She refused to take a pair of the cheapest headphones of all time for free from someone promoting an on campus event that week.

Waking up hours before most students to practice or work out, breakfast, classes for hours, lunch, meeting with trainers or staff, then maybe more class, practice after or a match, dinner, homework, bed.

All while being forbidden making any money or taking anything from people. Wild stuff and requiring a whole lot of dedication and sacrifice FOR A NON REVENUE SPORT.

She did not know the rules then. She could have taken the headphones. If they’re offered to all students, then anyone can take them.

Travel, meals, gear, opportunity to get access to private coaching, meals, scholarship, access to personal training, nutrition specialists, etc.

 

[SUFan44]

Wow what a take on Graduation Day, First off Universities don't make millions from backup centers from the 70th best team in college football and why does everyone ignore getting paid enough for a free full education, room and board, No one is paying $100 for an autograph for 90% of all scholarship players.
If you really think college athletes never got paid, then go ahead and let them pay for college themselves and pay them a salary and see how many players take that tradeoff.
No one thinks they get paid what their worth, everyone thinks they are underpaid, everyone's a victim.

Exactly right.

 

[Sudano]

I remember walking with a former girlfriend who played tennis at SU years ago. She refused to take a pair of the cheapest headphones of all time for free from someone promoting an on campus event that week.

Waking up hours before most students to practice or work out, breakfast, classes for hours, lunch, meeting with trainers or staff, then maybe more class, practice after or a match, dinner, homework, bed.

All while being forbidden making any money or taking anything from people. Wild stuff and requiring a whole lot of dedication and sacrifice FOR A NON REVENUE SPORT.

OMG the horror and deprivation...How did she survive without those headphones! which she could have easily taken because it was offered to every student and not to her as an athlete.

 

[All4SU]

Solid boomer take.

The minute football began to bring in more money than it cost to run the program (scholarships included) the players deserved a cut. A college degree has been a dime a dozen for 30 years

Thank you. I’ll take that as a compliment.
No one was twisting Kids’ arms to play a sport and take a scholarship.

There is WAY more money in sports now. And a college scholarship isn’t worth what it used to be.

 

[All4SU]

A "quality education and lifelong friends" while schools made millions and millions of dollars off of their name, image, and likeness. Fair trade-off

They WEREN'T ALLOWED to maximize their opportunities. Couldn't even sign autographs for $100. If a kid didn't have the talent to go pro, they couldn't make any money to set themselves up for the future.

It's crazy, for all the people that scream capitalism is good, they sure don't like it when the workers want to be paid for their sacrifices.

Capitalism - a willing exchange of goods and services. Those “student athletes” in the 60s, 70s and 80s knew exactly what they were exchanging. And for every kid who didn’t get a chance to make $100 for his autograph, there were 1,000 kids who would have given their left nut just to have the CHANCE that those kids got.

I know “Boomers” who played sports at lower levels. They would have killed to play at an SU or a major college program.

 

[Dcuse]

We live in a wonderful time when they can both achieve a degree and have financial opportunities along the way that were unjustly withheld from previous generations of student-athletes.

Give me a break.

 

[djcon57]

A "quality education and lifelong friends" while schools made millions and millions of dollars off of their name, image, and likeness. Fair trade-off

They WEREN'T ALLOWED to maximize their opportunities. Couldn't even sign autographs for $100. If a kid didn't have the talent to go pro, they couldn't make any money to set themselves up for the future.

It's crazy, for all the people that scream capitalism is good, they sure don't like it when the workers want to be paid for their sacrifices.

The majority of the people that disagree with your take are jealous that they and/or their kids weren’t good enough to be D1 athletes and their opinion oozes out of the jealously.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Give me a break.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Congratulations to Neil Nunn.

 

[StCuse315]

I thoroughly enjoyed the beginning of this thread. You know, celebrating the accomplishments of our current players and all. We should keep the focus on that. This thread is about them. Not our own personal "hot" takes.

 

[djcon57]

They should be allowed to make money from their Name, Image & Likeness.

The collective stuff is not what was intended and is a sham. Devalues education and all of the other amenities they receive as student-athletes.

If I am a school and these kids are getting paid for playing, and want to be treated as pros, then they’d be on the hook for their own publicist, nutritionist, personal trainer, housing, and majority of their meals. Those haven’t come free, and are part of the package.

Welcome to the real world.

Then none of the good players will go to your school and your school will be shutting down your program. Welcome to the real world.

 

[djcon57]

I thoroughly enjoyed the beginning of this thread. You know, celebrating the accomplishments of our current players and all. We should keep the focus on that. This thread is about them. Not our own personal "hot" takes.

The title and very first post had a personal hot take. Pure gaslighting to say otherwise

 

[StCuse315]

The title and very first post had a personal hot take. Pure gaslighting to say otherwise

Congrats to these young men and hopefully many more congrats to come this fall!

 

[SUFan44]

Then none of the good players will go to your school and your school will be shutting down your program. Welcome to the real world.

It’s all going that way anyway.

 

[sutomcat]

Trebor graduated from Newhouse while playing football in four years?

Yes mom, be very proud!