you cant control OC records . i think we would have done OK against Vill/USC/Army/New mexico st or nex Mexico/Old dominion/navy/ND or FIU/Old Dominion/WV/uconn at worst we would have been 3-1 probably 4-0 against Marylands schedule.
What happens if Frazier (and Gross) muck this up?
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If things go poorly the ACC/ESPN could come in and make it right for the SOL team and buy some love with a Bowl and payoff some G5 conference. UNC isn't in the discussion as they have the Belk Bowl ready to take them...but Pitt and Cuse are kinda hanging in the breeze right now. Well that thought (ACC/ESPN paying off someone) sounds good to me...not sure it has ever been done since the BCS started.
Next year will be much better as more bowls are in the lineup.
Next year will be much better as more bowls are in the lineup.
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The way I read it, the secondary agreements with the MAC only applies to the fourth MAC team, which can go to one of the 3 secondary bowls. It does not guarantee a MAC team for each of the 3 secondary bowls whose BCS league did not fill it's allotment.
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This is not true. The ACC has a one win rule that is in place regarding bowl game assignments but this applies to conference record only.
ONE-WIN RULE
Each of the current ACC Bowl Partners have a provision in their contract that describes how this selection pool is composed by the available team with the best conference record or a team within one conference win of the best available team.
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Since all the teams on the bubble went 4-4 or 3-5 in conference play, the one win rule does nothing to separate these teams, at least as far as assignment goes for the ACC bowl bids.
ESPN controls the vast majority of the bowls out there and no conference is more closely affiliated with it than the ACC. When push comes to shove, it isn't the conference making the decisions on who goes, or the schools, or the bowl committees. It is ESPN.
I would be really surprised to see any ACC school left out in the cold. This is one of those times it is a lot better to be an ACC school than say a PAC12 school.
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This feels like deja vu the Wagner thread. The NCAA had a rule a conference couldn't send a 6-6 team to a bowl unless all eligible 7-5 teams went. Apparently it changed.
Thanks to tomcat I did some more research. It looks like a 7-5 team could be left home and a 6-6 team could go.
This blog talks a bit about it
http://m.spokesman.com/blogs/sportslink/2013/nov/30/we-always-have-cure/
So with that...Maryland could be left home...I feel a bit better but I'm not 100% convinced we have a bowl yet.
Thanks to tomcat I did some more research. It looks like a 7-5 team could be left home and a 6-6 team could go.
This blog talks a bit about it
http://m.spokesman.com/blogs/sportslink/2013/nov/30/we-always-have-cure/
So with that...Maryland could be left home...I feel a bit better but I'm not 100% convinced we have a bowl yet.
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If anyone should be left out, it should be Maryland. Screw'em, they're leaving anyway and we beat them
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But Maryland would buy tickets to a bowl game in Annapolis...we'll see.
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TexanMark said:
If a team from one of the 5 big conferences is gonna get screwed, I'd be worried if I was Maryland. The ACC isn't going to throw them a lifeline. Nor should they.
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Patently false.
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On the other hand ... the ACC hooks up Maryland with a sweet bowl, and withholds the payment to cover "conference fees".
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hell , our fans were louder at college park
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Hmmm you saw I corrected myself above...I trusted what another guy wrote on another board without checking his source...I was wrong about it. The rule changed.
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Sorry, hadn't gotten to that part of the thread. Didn't mean to pile on.
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Maryland would be entitled to the same split of net bowl revenues as every other ACC team, even if they didn't play in a bowl. I wouldn't be surprised to see the league withhold their share, pending the outcome of the lawsuit.
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I would be shocked to see them get a dime.
They haven't seen any money from Greensboro since they announced their intended departure. Their share of accrued revenues will be applied to their $20M-$53M exit fee.
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If the B1G has an unused bowl slot then that's where they should go.
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This article posted last night in the Baltimore Sun talks about the Military Bowl and the ACC slot in it. It looks like Maryland was all set to go there until Syracuse beat BC Saturday. If you read between the lines, it sounds pretty good for the Orangemen.
Maryland's most likely options remain the Military Bowl (Dec. 27 in Annapolis) and the AdvoCare V100 Bowl (Dec. 31 in Shreveport, La.). Representatives from both bowls have scouted the Terps.
The Military Bowl is too close to campus to be considered an exotic experience for players, but it's favored by many alumni and fans because it would be convenient and inexpensive. Many bowl activities will be held in Washington, D.C.
Maryland's Military Bowl prospects dimmed a bit when Syracuse defeated Boston College on Saturday. The victory made the Orange bowl-eligible, adding another team to the mix and complicating the selection process.
"We're in a great spot," Military Bowl president and executive director Steve Beck said in a text message Sunday. "Of course, we have interest in Maryland and think the Terps would enjoy our game. But we're also looking at our other ACC options and are looking forward to a terrific game. It is a good situation to be in."
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I would think the ACC is pushing hard to get Syracuse in this slot. It should be noted that the B1G is taking the other slot in the game effective next year and they are surely doing what they can to get the Terps this bid. But they surely have more leverage with the bowl games they are already affiliated with where there are not enough bowl eligible B1G schools available to fill the slots.
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Isn't AdvoCare health products set up along the lines like Amway?
BTW, I'll be cool with the Military Bowl...can knock out a visit to see my Mom along with the game.
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Here's tomcat's Maryland game thread with some conjecture about the SU contingent. Nice to have a relevant example of our travel potential available for the bowl committee.
http://syracusefan.com/threads/my-take.61090/
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don't play dumb with us. we all know you have a comprehensive knowledge of the lotion market
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Yes, they are. My bad. Was thinking Orange but misspelled it as S-U-G-A-R. While most projections have Clemson in the Orange Bowl I'm not sure things will work out that way.
Based on current BCS Standings and assuming no upsets in league championship games there are 8 automatic qualifiers for a BCS Bowl.
Six conference champions:
1. Florida State (ACC)
2. Ohio State (Big 10)
3. Auburn (SEC)
4. Oklahoma State (Big 12)
5. Stanford (Pac 12)
6. UCF (AAC)
7. Northern Illinois (Top 16 BCS and ranked higher than an AQ Champion (UCF)
8. Alabama (At large Top 4 with no rep in NC game)
That leaves 2 slots from among Baylor, Michigan St, Clemson and Oregon or Arizona St. to round out the ten BCS spots.
Bowls that have ties with conferences selected to play in National Championship game fill their spots next with Number 1 going first so Orange Bowl has first choice. Hard to believe they wouldn't take Alabama.
Rose Bowl picks next needing a team to pair with Stanford. Tradition and ranking make this a lock for Michigan State leaving one open non-AQ spot.
Orange Bowl then gets the next choice. Possibilities are UCF, Northern Illinois, Baylor / Arizona St., Clemson, and Oregon. To me this comes down to Oregon or Clemson and I've got to think the combination of Nike influence and national appeal might cause the Orange to go for the Ducks.
Last two BCS spots have to go to UCF and Northern Illinois (Rose is filled) and Clemson goes to Atlanta.
I know virtually all expert projections say otherwise but to me this is not an unrealistic scenario that would knock all ACC teams down a rung and further muddy the picture for Cuse.
