Why are we so concerned about Carney's Red Shirt?

[JeffCuse]

Serious Q.

This coaching staff clearly has ZERO faith in his ability to either comprehend, or run, basic pass plays. He is a QB who can't run ANY pass plays, this deep into the season. He is trusted less than a freshman walk-on.

Why are panicking about burning a red shirt year for a QB who in game 11 of a season is not capable of running basic passing plays.

At this point I am 100% convinced that after Angeli next year our next QB will be someone not currently on this roster. The red shirt means nothing imo.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

Also he can just redshirt next year….. I don’t get the outrage

 

[JeffCuse]

Also he can just redshirt next year….. I don’t get the outrage

Is that even a good thing? Do we want more QBs on this depth chart incapable of throwing a ball?

 

[sufan59]

Serious Q.

This coaching staff clearly has ZERO faith in his ability to either comprehend, or run, basic pass plays. He is a QB who can't run ANY pass plays, this deep into the season. He is trusted less than a freshman walk-on.

Why are panicking about burning a red shirt year for a QB who in game 11 of a season is not capable of running basic passing plays.

At this point I am 100% convinced that after Angeli next year our next QB will be someone not currently on this roster. The red shirt means nothing imo.

I’m pretty sure the eligibility rules are changing anyway where this wouldn’t even be an issue.

 

[85SUAlum]

Why bother redshirting anyone anymore when they might just leave for the next bigger payday with another team anyway?

 

[Archimedes]

Serious Q.

This coaching staff clearly has ZERO faith in his ability to either comprehend, or run, basic pass plays. He is a QB who can't run ANY pass plays, this deep into the season. He is trusted less than a freshman walk-on.

Why are panicking about burning a red shirt year for a QB who in game 11 of a season is not capable of running basic passing plays.

At this point I am 100% convinced that after Angeli next year our next QB will be someone not currently on this roster. The red shirt means nothing imo.

He ran pass plays. Not many, but they were no worse than anything we saw out of the other guys. He looked faster with better touch on the ball too. Small sample size though.

 

[phil77]

Serious Q.

This coaching staff clearly has ZERO faith in his ability to either comprehend, or run, basic pass plays. He is a QB who can't run ANY pass plays, this deep into the season. He is trusted less than a freshman walk-on.

Why are panicking about burning a red shirt year for a QB who in game 11 of a season is not capable of running basic passing plays.

At this point I am 100% convinced that after Angeli next year our next QB will be someone not currently on this roster. The red shirt means nothing imo.

The one pass play he ran and completed against ND was better tape than any pass play our Lacrosse player has on tape so far after watching it all back on all 22.

 

[Ttk.gman2]

Is that even a good thing? Do we want more QBs on this depth chart incapable of throwing a ball?

I think he hits the portal. He is undersized I see him at least being a game manager.

 

[Chip]

I don't think anyone is concerned. I think they concocted a story after the fact. If he doesn't enter the transfer portal, then color me surprised.

 

[richmondcuse03]

I don't think anyone is concerned. I think they concocted a story after the fact. If he doesn't enter the transfer portal, then color me surprised.

Bingo. If you want to be a coach players want to play for, you also work with them / their parents on this stuff even if they transfer. Treat people the right way. Goes a long way in life. It’s a lesson beyond football.

 

[JustPherU]

Serious Q.

This coaching staff clearly has ZERO faith in his ability to either comprehend, or run, basic pass plays. He is a QB who can't run ANY pass plays, this deep into the season. He is trusted less than a freshman walk-on.

Why are panicking about burning a red shirt year for a QB who in game 11 of a season is not capable of running basic passing plays.

At this point I am 100% convinced that after Angeli next year our next QB will be someone not currently on this roster. The red shirt means nothing imo.

It might not be Fran’s choice, maybe Carney is telling Fran he doesn’t want to burn a year.

 

[phil77]

I don't think anyone is concerned. I think they concocted a story after the fact. If he doesn't enter the transfer portal, then color me surprised.

Correct he is 100% in the portal and won’t play against BC

 

[Cusefan78]

The one pass play he ran and completed against ND was better tape than any pass play our Lacrosse player has on tape so far after watching it all back on all 22.

And the other two passes earlier in the year were ducks thrown into coverage that could have both been a pick 6. Him being pulled on 3rd and 9 tells you everything we need to know about carney.

 

[Scooch]

Agree with Chip and richmondcuse03. None of US give a crap about his redshirt. Clearly the Carney family does. And since SU must have decided this summer that Carney isn’t good enough to play P4 football, se ms like they’re trying to be nice to the Carneys and let him keep a year of eligibility to play G6 or FCS. I guess. Who knows. He’s gone.

 

[kcsu]

Serious Q.

This coaching staff clearly has ZERO faith in his ability to either comprehend, or run, basic pass plays. He is a QB who can't run ANY pass plays, this deep into the season. He is trusted less than a freshman walk-on.

Why are panicking about burning a red shirt year for a QB who in game 11 of a season is not capable of running basic passing plays.

At this point I am 100% convinced that after Angeli next year our next QB will be someone not currently on this roster. The red shirt means nothing imo.

I believe it was discussed with his family and for various reasons decided it was in his best interest

 

[FloridaCuse]

I’m pretty sure the eligibility rules are changing anyway where this wouldn’t even be an issue.

That's becoming less likely if you're referring to changing the rule that you can play for 5 years in 5 years.

 

[sufan59]

That's becoming less likely if you're referring to changing the rule that you can play for 5 years in 5 years.

Oh I didn’t know that

 

[FloridaCuse]

I think it all comes down to Fran giving him and his family a commitment when he came to Syracuse that he would redshirt this year. Fran probably believes that keeping his word on that is important going forward regarding future recruits.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Oh I didn’t know that

Yeah, the proposal has been put on hold and apparently indefinitely delayed. Some college football analysts aren't sure it will ever be passed.

 

[tbonezone]

did he cash the check ? ok...

Burn that mother down, y'all

 

[Archimedes]

I think it all comes down to Fran giving him and his family a commitment when he came to Syracuse that he would redshirt this year. Fran probably believes that keeping his word on that is important going forward regarding future recruits.

It's a learning experience. The lesson for Fran is to make sure your #3 QB is fully committed and able.

I'm sure Fran never imagined needing to play his #3 QB for more than 4 games. No one did.

Won't happen again.

 

[dollarbill44]

If I'm a HC and ive got a kid who comes in as a borderline player at best, and says he wants to redshirt, I don't think I play him at all. Straight to practice squad. The way Carney has been used this year makes no sense to me. Fran said he put Carney in to slow things down. He could have used Collins for that role.

 

[MSOrange]

Bingo. If you want to be a coach players want to play for, you also work with them / their parents on this stuff even if they transfer. Treat people the right way. Goes a long way in life. It’s a lesson beyond football.

Agree. I think that's a critical aspect. If you get a reputation for not doing right by your players, it becomes difficult for even really good recruiters.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Agree. I think that's a critical aspect. If you get a reputation for not doing right by your players, it becomes difficult for even really good recruiters.

Exactly. Despite the results we have a lot of interest from young players to transfer into the program. Fran is very straight and open with guys.

 

[sufan59]

Exactly. Despite the results we have a lot of interest from young players to transfer into the program. Fran is very straight and open with guys.

I hope yesterday doesn’t affect that. A lot of noise going into Thanksgiving now.