Wildhack is on the Clock

[CuseCPT]

Is the pet project related to eSports? You obviously don’t have to confirm and I have zero inside info. I just know some folks involved in that at SU and my reaction to the resources they are being given is always:
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I had thought maybe it was the medical school. While it is true that doctors generally make good donors, medical schools are expensive enough to run, much less establish. Seems to keep being whispered about since it was out in the open in 2015.

 

[Newhouser]

Is the pet project related to eSports? You obviously don’t have to confirm and I have zero inside info. I just know some folks involved in that at SU and my reaction to the resources they are being given is always:
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I know some people in that space and have the same reaction when I hear what they are doing.

 

[Red2003]

A lot of your comments are rightfully saying the quality at SU and other things that really should be important at SU have went down over the last decade. However They just keep doing what theyre doing. Product quality goes down oh well raise the prices and pass it back to the customer and say you’re working on it. It’s happening everywhere with big corporations.

Now we need these same decisionmakers to move quickly on Autry. I’m sad to say even though they know it’s the right decision they may just sit and wait and not rock the boat.

It sucks but the only thing that may get Autry out quicker is an even worse derailment, worse losses, player discipline issues, a personal issue with him, or guys with their names in the rafters and on buildings saying that they are taking a stand on him.

 

[atlanticuse]

If we saw progress or a plan, he should stay.

We’ve seen major massive regression.

Does SU do an “exit interview” when players transfer? Or just “they out”?

 

[Bulldog04]

Is the pet project related to eSports? You obviously don’t have to confirm and I have zero inside info. I just know some folks involved in that at SU and my reaction to the resources they are being given is always:
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That is not his project no. The esports is getting mixed reactions. I know some business folks that are thrilled about it and then I know some that have no idea how it’s going to be a thing that equates to anything.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Exactly right. We went 19-12 with 9 blowout losses (15+ points). We were no where near the bubble. Last year was not great and no miracle. This year is a complete and utter disaster. By far the worst Cuse team to lace them up in the past 55-60 years. Embarrassing in all aspects. Can’t even figure out a starting lineup with a week to plan. This is not fixable with Autry and everyone knows it.

In 63 years. In 1961-62 our record was 2-22. From February 1961 to February 1962 we set a then NCAA record losing streak of 27 games in a row. Marc Guley was the coach. Games were played at the War Memorial. Attendance was minimal (e.g. 939, 482). The next year Fred Lewis arrived and shortly thereafter Dave Bing and Jim Boeheim and the trajectory of the program has been ever upward . . . until this year.

Throwback Thursday: Syracuse basketball's epic 27-game losing streak

In the 1961-62 season, Syracuse men's basketball endured 27 consecutive losses.

www.syracuse.com

 

[Sbucketball]

What is Kent specifically doing? Let’s hear it.

If he’s sabotaging our sports, as a fan why protect him? Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

 

[Blanko97]

That is not his project no. The esports is getting mixed reactions. I know some business folks that are thrilled about it and then I know some that have no idea how it’s going to be a thing that equates to anything.

E sports would normally be a great way to get some South east asian/chinese applicants, but syracuse already excels there so im not sure itll help generate any additional value

 

[Scooch]

What is Kent specifically doing? Let’s hear it.

If he’s sabotaging our sports, as a fan why protect him? Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Good luck with that. Some folks would much rather sneer at the rabble then disclose anything.

 

[Newhouser]

That is not his project no. The esports is getting mixed reactions. I know some business folks that are thrilled about it and then I know some that have no idea how it’s going to be a thing that equates to anything.

I think they believe it will help attract students that they believe are the future. What I don't get is every other school is making similar investments and for the most part are all better schools than Cuse. It seems like a student life issue more than academic but not my space so may be above my head

 

[HyattsCuse]

In 63 years. In 1961-62 our record was 2-22. From February 1961 to February 1962 we set a then NCAA record losing streak of 27 games in a row. Marc Guley was the coach. Games were played at the War Memorial. Attendance was minimal. The next year Fred Lewis arrived and shortly thereafter Dave Bing and Jim Boeheim and the trajectory of the program was ever upward . . . until this year.

That’s just not true. We’ve been on a steady decline for about a decade now. A couple F4 runs masked the beginning but it’s decreased much quicker since 2020.

 

[Blanko97]

He’s about to fry himself if some stuff comes out soon. I can’t say this any clearer- THIS GUY HAS TO GO and honestly he’s holding the entire athletic department hostage including JW. We got lucky with Fran and Fran’s efforts to raise money literally changed that program. If he relied on the school for funds, no chance things would be as successful. Autry is out raising money almost every day. It’s actually quite insane how many things he’s attending. His coaching has been poor there’s no question, but Kent is a big big big part of the problem as a whole at the school. I know of some things, dasher brought up great points about the ranking continuing to slide every single year and he has a pet project that he is DUMPING money into.
I know of one other drastic thing that I’m not going to publish here because I know he’s getting into looked into because of it, but it makes a lot of sense that Kent is basically at fault for a lot right now within athletics. The guy is a problem and needs to go and might just get himself fired soon

Is it all the real estate he's been buying up? I know they've bought half of south warren, half of Marshall and theyre working on buying up the frats one by one

 

[Mcs1977]

Leaving the Big East was the worst move for the Basketball Team haven’t been the same since.

 

[dan7800]

A lot of your comments are rightfully saying the quality at SU and other things that really should be important at SU have went down over the last decade. However They just keep doing what theyre doing. Product quality goes down oh well raise the prices and pass it back to the customer and say you’re working on it. It’s happening everywhere with big corporations.

Now we need these same decisionmakers to move quickly on Autry. I’m sad to say even though they know it’s the right decision they may just sit and wait and not rock the boat.

It sucks but the only thing that may get Autry out quicker is an even worse derailment, worse losses, player discipline issues, a personal issue with him, or guys with their names in the rafters and on buildings saying that they are taking a stand on him.

A lot of the issue is that it's a quick downward spiral. You lose money, then you start losing faculty/not getting top researchers, so you get less money, prestige, which only leads to less money for researchers/faculty/more churn etc.. In the research community, you hear a lot of "SU used to have a great person in XYZ field, I don't know who they have there now." I also know that they lose out on a lot of 1st, 2nd choices in hiring.

The same thing is happening to UR/RPI. Cornell, NYU, Columbia are largely immune due to their existing $$$/prestige, but things will only get harder for private schools in NYS. At least a few bigger private schools are "battening down the hatches" in preparation for the tough times in the next few years. The aftermath of the college admissions scandal had immense repercussions on schools in the state. I am not talking about limiting someone giving millions to buy their kid in, but the other laws that were largely unrelated to the initial filing that had immense costs associated for schools -- ones that actually hurt students IMHO.

NYS is only making things much harder for private schools.

I am not defending the chancellor as I have no insight into what they're doing, but its an uphill battle for most private schools in the state.

 

[dan7800]

Leaving the Big East was the worst move for the Basketball Team haven’t been the same since.

Disagree. It had to be done.

 

[capeorange]

Leaving the Big East was the worst move for the Basketball Team haven’t been the same since.

Recruiting players based on their physical build, long and skinny, and not on their talent was the worst move along with JB hanging on too long.

 

[atlanticuse]

Disagree. It had to be done.

... for football, yes.
For television dollars, yes.
For egos, yes.

For the best of the basketball program and non-rev sports?
Hell no.

 

[FloridaCuse]

... for football, yes.
For television dollars, yes.
For egos, yes.

For the best of the basketball program and non-rev sports?
Hell no.

It might not have been bad for the lacrosse programs. Elevated their competition and attractiveness for recruits.

 

[Red2003]

A lot of the issue is that it's a quick downward spiral. You lose money, then you start losing faculty/not getting top researchers, so you get less money, prestige, which only leads to less money for researchers/faculty/more churn etc.. In the research community, you hear a lot of "SU used to have a great person in XYZ field, I don't know who they have there now." I also know that they lose out on a lot of 1st, 2nd choices in hiring.

The same thing is happening to UR/RPI. Cornell, NYU, Columbia are largely immune due to their existing $$$/prestige, but things will only get harder for private schools in NYS. At least a few bigger private schools are "battening down the hatches" in preparation for the tough times in the next few years. The aftermath of the college admissions scandal had immense repercussions on schools in the state. I am not talking about limiting someone giving millions to buy their kid in, but the other laws that were largely unrelated to the initial filing that had immense costs associated for schools -- ones that actually hurt students IMHO.

NYS is only making things much harder for private schools.

I am not defending the chancellor as I have no insight into what they're doing, but its an uphill battle for most private schools in the state.

I can't pretend to know anything about your comment but I will say this. The SEC has ONE private university in Vanderbilt. The rest are all Public and all appear to be given a blank check for sports whether they admit it or not.

Shane Gillis if you caught it Friday night for the ND game got some really good digs in on the SEC and Saban for paying players for years before NIL.

The simple fact is that the SEC has a top priority of winning major NCAA sports throughout their whole ecosystem and Private Universities like SU just do not.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Many on here knew from watching the very first game of this year when we barely beat LeMoyne that something was wrong. If not then, then when we barely beat Colgate and Youngstown St. (in 2OT). Some fans didn't want to believe what their eyes saw and told them so there were rationalizations, like the team hasn't jelled yet, many new players. It looked right from the start like it was at best a poorly coached team. And it really hasn't changed. Maybe gotten worse. Now they are unwatchable. Go back and watch the first game if you can. It's all there. And that was before JJ was injured.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Many on here knew from watching the very first game of this year when we barely beat LeMoyne that something was wrong. If not then, then when we barely beat Colgate and Youngstown St. (in 2OT). Some fans didn't want to believe what their eyes saw and told them so there were rationalizations, like the team hasn't jelled yet, many new players. It looked right from the start like it was at best a poorly coached team. And it really hasn't changed. Maybe gotten worse. Now they are unwatchable. Go back and watch the first game if you can. It's all there. And that was before JJ was injured.

Yeah, the JJ injury is just a convenient reason for remaining in denial. The same issues were present when he was healthy and we were scraping by cupcakes.

I never thought a game against Bucknell would be so interesting.

 

[44Wallace]

I just want to say... giving Lampkin $700k or $800k, whichever one it is (I've heard both), is like seriously overpaying my lawn service guy at $70k and all he does is perform dramatic donut-style lawn jobs for me with the 5.0 Mustang that I essentially bought.

 

[FloridaCuse]

Yeah, the JJ injury is just a convenient reason for remaining in denial. The same issues were present when he was healthy and we were scraping by cupcakes.

I never thought a game against Bucknell would be so interesting.

Yeah, Bucknell may be the last game we win this season. And they lost to Siena by 13.

 

[Orangezoo]

He’s about to fry himself if some stuff comes out soon. I can’t say this any clearer- THIS GUY HAS TO GO and honestly he’s holding the entire athletic department hostage including JW. We got lucky with Fran and Fran’s efforts to raise money literally changed that program. If he relied on the school for funds, no chance things would be as successful. Autry is out raising money almost every day. It’s actually quite insane how many things he’s attending. His coaching has been poor there’s no question, but Kent is a big big big part of the problem as a whole at the school. I know of some things, dasher brought up great points about the ranking continuing to slide every single year and he has a pet project that he is DUMPING money into.
I know of one other drastic thing that I’m not going to publish here because I know he’s getting into looked into because of it, but it makes a lot of sense that Kent is basically at fault for a lot right now within athletics. The guy is a problem and needs to go and might just get himself fired soon

I never once understood the Kent hire and know a couple folks who had fairly high roles at the university (administrative) who bailed in a hurry after he came on board and have passed along some concerning things they’ve heard in his time here from folks still there. Reading his background it never made sense as a good fit and he’s done nothing to move the school forward while just always coming off as self serving anyways.

 

[rrlbees]

He’s about to fry himself if some stuff comes out soon. I can’t say this any clearer- THIS GUY HAS TO GO and honestly he’s holding the entire athletic department hostage including JW. We got lucky with Fran and Fran’s efforts to raise money literally changed that program. If he relied on the school for funds, no chance things would be as successful. Autry is out raising money almost every day. It’s actually quite insane how many things he’s attending. His coaching has been poor there’s no question, but Kent is a big big big part of the problem as a whole at the school. I know of some things, dasher brought up great points about the ranking continuing to slide every single year and he has a pet project that he is DUMPING money into.
I know of one other drastic thing that I’m not going to publish here because I know he’s getting into looked into because of it, but it makes a lot of sense that Kent is basically at fault for a lot right now within athletics. The guy is a problem and needs to go and might just get himself fired soon

I don’t know where you’re going with this but I’m gonna push back some with facts about Kent and athletics. Just a few things off the top of my head.

1. He attends the occasional game, football and basketball.

2. Another poster, I forget the name, mentioned how they had access to some kind of senate? meeting minutes. In that, Kent was very pro athletics because he recognizes the value of strong athletics to admissions.

3. Like all schools, most facilities are funded by donations. But there is some risk because schools have to put up “seed” money and there’s always the risk of not being fully funded by donations. We have poured millions into facilities and Kent has let John and Pete do their job.

4. It seems like starting next year, schools are going to be on the hook for $22m to “pay” athletes. I have not heard anything yet about us being one of the schools to not fund that.

5. Maybe the best indicator is that he is the Chairperson of that national committee of senior college administrators trying to come up with a “better” way to organize NCAA sports and conferences.

He’s not anti athletics.