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Woody Newton transferring to Oklahoma St

You think having to bring in an almost entirely new roster next year is no big deal? You think losing upwards of 8 guys with experience in your system is easy to replace with 8 guys with no experience in your system is no biggie? This program would be way better off with Kadary, Woody, AG, Frank etc all with a year under their belt. If you want to tell me Cuse is replacing them all with 5 star, high impact players that's a different story. But that isn't happening.
And if we were alone in this predicament, your argument would be better
 
Because who starts the game is about as meaningful as a fart in the wind.

That is, of course, if one has the ability to see the bigger picture.
The bigger picture is that stuff matters to players because it matters to their future. It also matters as part of ego and pride. And if that were the case, why is it important to keep starting Joe? Should be no big deal to sit Joe down and tell him Kadary is better. When Joe was recovering from COVID, Cuse fell behind almost every single game and he was a huge reason why (not blaming him but he clearly wasn't playing well), yet Jim never even considered starting Kadary. That tells you all you need to know.
 
And if we were alone in this predicament, your argument would be better
Point is, you don't have to be in that predicament. Woody and Kadary don't have to be going elsewhere. Just because other teams face turnover, doesn't mean you don't try to retain your best players. Kadary Richmond was the most talented player on the roster. End of story. Woody Newton clearly should have been playing a bigger role. Tell me right now we are better without those guys.
 
The bigger picture is that stuff matters to players because it matters to their future. It also matters as part of ego and pride. And if that were the case, why is it important to keep starting Joe? Should be no big deal to sit Joe down and tell him Kadary is better. When Joe was recovering from COVID, Cuse fell behind almost every single game and he was a huge reason why (not blaming him but he clearly wasn't playing well), yet Jim never even considered starting Kadary. That tells you all you need to know.
That was the perfect time to make the switch IMO. It would’ve given Joe an “out” to soften the blow if needed, as he had been sick.
 
We might as well be playing a different sport than Baylor and have zero chance to win a championship.

BAYLOR!!

Glad you’re ok with it.
The same is true for Gonzaga.
 
Because who starts the game is about as meaningful as a fart in the wind.

That is, of course, if one has the ability to see the bigger picture.

You are correct as JB has in the past played guys as token starters, but that didn't happen this year between Joe/Kadary.
 
The bigger picture is that stuff matters to players because it matters to their future. It also matters as part of ego and pride. And if that were the case, why is it important to keep starting Joe? Should be no big deal to sit Joe down and tell him Kadary is better. When Joe was recovering from COVID, Cuse fell behind almost every single game and he was a huge reason why (not blaming him but he clearly wasn't playing well), yet Jim never even considered starting Kadary. That tells you all you need to know.
Read post 1907 from the originally Kadary thread.

 
I actually have a whole house. It’s got walls and a yard and everything. Thanks for checking!
Really? Your posting style implies playpen.
 
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You think having to bring in an almost entirely new roster next year is no big deal? You think losing upwards of 8 guys with experience in your system is easy to replace with 8 guys with no experience in your system is no biggie? This program would be way better off with Kadary, Woody, AG, Frank etc all with a year under their belt. If you want to tell me Cuse is replacing them all with 5 star, high impact players that's a different story. But that isn't happening.
Happening all over, and the guy some here have inflated into an AA didn’t want to play in the system anyway.
 
Read post 1907 from the originally Kadary thread.


If this was a "give coach some rope to hang himself with" situation, I'd be on board. Let it play out and see what happens, good or bad. But it's always a "shorten the gallows because coach might hang himself" situation on here.
 
Problem is that those players you listed waited their turns. They played sparingly (to various degrees) in their early years, growing into full time starters and key cogs on some great teams. It appears that career track is no longer going to be normal in college basketball. Doesn't matter who the coach is, if a kid doesn't start and/or play big minutes right away, they will transfer. At least it appears that way.

CJ Fair played less minutes per game and started fewer games as a freshman than Kadary did, for example.

I'm not sure how a coaching staff is supposed to deal with this new environment, but it will not be easy. We will live to see the CJ Fairs of the world learn a little bit with us and then blossom into stars for other teams. By the same token, their CJ Fairs will blossom on our roster instead of where they started, I suppose.
Yep, the days of “program guys” appear to be over.
 
It's not difficult to grasp. It's stupid. Foolish. Whatever you want to call it. If it was sooooooo egregious and as bad as you state it is (which it is stupid), why didn't your hero kick them out of the program?
Wildhack definitely had a problem with it.
 
Happening all over, and the guy some here have inflated into an AA didn’t want to play in the system anyway.
Uh, so why bring him in? Were these conversations not had during the recruiting process? If it's a surprise as to what type of offense/defense a program runs, that's an issue in your recruiting process.
 
Woody should leave....there's no competition next year ...Williams was promised a starting position nomatter what happens during practice ...
 

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