For some reason I remember us being the favorite and having to play essentially a true road game which didn’t seem fair .
so you're back to JB not coaching until he is 90?When you get destroyed by lousy teams during the regular season and your hopes of making the tournament are over by mid January if not sooner it sucks. Especially for all of us who realize just how far the program has fallen.
You’re luckyYou’re too young to remember the glorious flameouts against powerhouses Navy, Richmond , Rhode Island , Umass (pre Camby).
Crap forgot to track UNC and this one.Ended up be -300 for Miami currently.
I'll track what it ended up being for the 4 games, just curious.
FWIW, I think we win at least one, prob at home, maybe optimistic though
I think it's funny that a factual post about their record at the time and my opinion that it didn't suck has gone on this long.The record is deceiving. We were 12-6/5-2 against basically the worst schedule through 18 games I can ever remember. We’ve barely played any good teams. Only 2 teams in the top 30 in NET (UVA and Illini). We beat #51 when they didn’t have Cattour (we all know that would have been a loss if he played). Our second best win is against #88 Cornell, and our third best win is against #152 Richmond. THIRD BEST!
I still think we’ll get to 17 to 19 wins but that is more a reflection on the terrible non-conference schedule and really really bad ACC than anything else.
I went on KenPom and counted the number of “A” and “B” wins we have had over the regular season. A wins are basically Quad 1 wins and B are Quad 2.The record is deceiving. We were 12-6/5-2 against basically the worst schedule through 18 games I can ever remember. We’ve barely played any good teams. Only 2 teams in the top 30 in NET (UVA and Illini). We beat #51 when they didn’t have Cattour (we all know that would have been a loss if he played). Our second best win is against #88 Cornell, and our third best win is against #152 Richmond. THIRD BEST!
I still think we’ll get to 17 to 19 wins but that is more a reflection on the terrible non-conference schedule and really really bad ACC than anything else.
0-4 it was.Crap forgot to track UNC and this one.
0-3. One more to go
16-11! Got a shot at 20 wins, that doesn’t suck! Eat it, hAtErZzzz.0-4 it was.
Seems like the "let's deal with reality" type takes were dealing in reality.
Maybe not... we still have four more games and still a shot at 20 reg season wins.I haven't seen a thread age this badly since the OT board got banished to an alternate dimension.
yeah...but reality isn't necessarily the same as being pessimistic.Maybe not... we still have four more games and still a shot at 20 reg season wins.
I'd rather be optimistic and come up short than pessimistic and miserable.
Agreed. Some people seem to not want to accept reality about what this program has turned into, so when others speak realistically about what this team can accomplish they take it as pessimism.yeah...but reality isn't necessarily the same as being pessimistic.
Pessimistic would be coming into this season I would say "We're gonna have another losing record this year"
Reality would be "I hope we can make the bubble this year"
Unfortunately, some here think that speaking realistically is pessimistic. It's not.
Maybe not? This is one (if not THE) weakest teams of JBs tenure. The premise of the OP is spectacularly wrong. You can call a spade a spade and still enjoy watching the young guys develop. I've been saying this since at least November.Maybe not... we still have four more games and still a shot at 20 reg season wins.
I'd rather be optimistic and come up short than pessimistic and miserable.
There were 2 acc teams in the final four last year.Seems like the ACC has declined at the same time as Syracuse. “We suck and so does our league” seems like an opportunity to ask some questions but I know we’re still sharpening pitchforks so maybe let’s bookmark this for an offseason 4-5 years from now.
Take it up w the thread. I read we were the 7th conference and not too long ago we were *the* basketball conferenceThere were 2 acc teams in the final four last year.
Overall I agree the league is down and has been. But it’s demise has been over played.
If we were good, we’d be good
Syracuse and Louisville aren’t carrying their load, year after year now.Seems like the ACC has declined at the same time as Syracuse. “We suck and so does our league” seems like an opportunity to ask some questions but I know we’re still sharpening pitchforks so maybe let’s bookmark this for an offseason 4-5 years from now.
Correct.Maybe not?
Quantitatively incorrect.Correct.