2017 Yankees Thread

[Alsacs]

It might sound silly after the last couple of weeks, but this feels like overkill in the bullpen, especially when the team really needs starting pitching.

Yankees now have a 2015 Kansas City Royal bullpen.

They only need 5 innings from their starters.

It's a good trade for now. Rutherford sucks to lose but you gotta give up something to get quality. Robertson and Kahnle are quality.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

It might sound silly after the last couple of weeks, but this feels like overkill in the bullpen, especially when the team really needs starting pitching.

We just need 4 innings out of the starter.

We'll have a 5th inning guy, a 6th inning guy, a 7th inning guy, an 8th inning guy, and a 9th inning guy.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Yankees now have a 2015 Kansas City Royal bullpen.

They only need 5 innings from their starters.

It's a good trade for now. Rutherford sucks to lose but you gotta give up something to get quality. Robertson and Kahnle are quality.

Pass

 

[Alsacs]

Pass

You are consistent I give you that. Cashman is going for it.

Trading Rutherford does keep open an OF spot in 2 years for Bryce Harper.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Betances to 7th, DRob to 8th?

I'll guess this is the pecking order:
Chapman
Robertson
Betances
Kahnle
Green
Warren
Shreve
Scranton shuttle

 

[Alsacs]

Todd Frazier 1998 as a LLWS winner.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[JeremyCuse]

Josh Donaldson just broke his thumb.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Cowtown]

Josh Donaldson just broke his thumb.

Uh, maybe not. He led off the top of the next inning.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Uh, maybe not. He led off the top of the next inning.

I stand corrected!

 

[Cowtown]

I stand corrected!

It's taped up, but he could easily be day to day after tomorrow morning. I'm not really a Jays fan, but we get all their games and tonight they're playing the Bosox, so ...

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Cowtown]

Does Frazier move across the diamond to play 1B?

 

[Shark58]

steal of a trade

 

[KaiserUEO]

Does Frazier move across the diamond to play 1B?

I'm assuming that's the plan.

Right now he's worse than Headley.

 

[AirForceOrange]

By getting Todd Frazier, the Yankees not only potentially upgrade a corner IF position, they also keep him away from the sux, who probably needed him more than the Yankees...any time the Yankees can hose the sux is a good day!

Rutherford is/was stuck behind Clint Frazier, Judge, Gardner, DLsbury and Hicks (when he comes back). Not to mention leaving a spot open for potential pick up of Harper.

 

[AirForceOrange]

Self-proclaimed winners: Yankees think they're better for White Sox deal

 

[donniesyracuse]

After a good night's sleep, I still hate the deal. I believe individual relievers are overvalued in MLB. It's why I also hated signing Chapman to a huge deal. There is no denying that bullpens are extremely valuable. The Royals of whatever year it was demonstrated this. Individuals that make up bullpens are not that valuable. There is no huge shortage of adequate relievers. Relievers are almost all flawed pitchers who excelled once they were allowed to let loose over one or two innings and focus on just two pitches. Obviously, not every failed starter becomes a good reliever. Kahnle has already proven himself so he is certainly an asset, but I just can't get behind trading a valued commodity for a relief pitcher and two rentals (edit: I forgot Robertson was under control through 2018).

The notion that Rutherford would never play outfield for the Yankees is irrelevant. He was a commodity that could have been packaged with other commodities to acquire something the Yankees actually needed.

By the way, Frasier is barely better than Headley, if at all.

Since 2012
Frazier: wOBA = .337, wRC+ = 111 WAR = 18.4

Headley: wOBA = .328, wRC+ = 109, WAR = 20.3

 

[AirForceOrange]

This is why I love the trade: Yankees are back to being the Evil Empire, and the Red Sox feel the pain

 

[br801]

By getting Todd Frazier, the Yankees not only potentially upgrade a corner IF position, they also keep him away from the sux, who probably needed him more than the Yankees...any time the Yankees can hose the sux is a good day!

Rutherford is/was stuck behind Clint Frazier, Judge, Gardner, DLsbury and Hicks (when he comes back). Not to mention leaving a spot open for potential pick up of Harper.

I like the move for Frazier, even though he really hasn't been that good lately as donniesyracuse rightly points out. Sometimes these veterans get a bump when they come to NY and put on the pinstripes for the first time. I have a feeling that might play out here...

 

[donniesyracuse]

This is why I love the trade: Yankees are back to being the Evil Empire, and the Red Sox feel the pain

I think the Red Sox will be fine. :rolling: