Alex Kline

[atlanticuse]

We’re now the Pittsburgh Pirates of NCAAB

 

[Orangezoo]

We’re now the Pittsburgh Pirates of NCAAB

We aren’t and will never be anything affiliated with Pitt- at any level of sport. Save that crap for Rutgers insults… or the if Pittsburgh was a person thread.. they would be the person making such an analogy about SU BB

 

[richmondcuse03]

Since it was such a short portion of the interview, this won’t take long to transcribe. Here’s a word for word recounting of what was said:

Paulie: Is it sustainable, the current model in college sports, is it sustainable for a university like Syracuse to be able to compete year in and year out with the current model?

Wildhack: I’m not sure it’s sustainable for more than a handful of schools. You know, maybe two hands, but that’s it. It’s frustrating guys, and I’ll tell you, that was one of the factors in my decision because I don’t see any solutions in the next 6-12 months. You kind of beat your head against the wall every day, and you’re trying to figure out how do you navigate this world. If we had systems in place where it created a degree of competitive equity…the bigger brands are always gonna have an advantage. It’s like the NFL, it’s like the NBA, it’s like MLB, your bigger brands have an inherent advantage. But if you create some degree of competitive equity, that you have hard and fast rules that if you don’t follow those rules there are significant consequences. If you had a system like that, as popular as college sports is today, I believe it would be even more popular and more valuable.

I don’t think he can make a more clear statement than that without literally declaring the program dead. He is telling you very straightforwardly that we cannot sustainably compete year in and year out under the current model. Anyone who claims otherwise is the one spinning, and now posters have a direct transcript so they can judge themselves.

By that logic, he said if nothing changes, only 10 programs overall could survive. Two hands = 10. And that’s not a provocative statement. Most ADs would agree there are several have’s and a whole lot of have nots (including many in serious debt).

 

[IthaCuse]

So as 0307 said you are inferring WH is saying SU is dead which is not a reasonable inference to make. If only 5-10 teams can keep up it means that it won’t survive unless change takes place which he and more than a few others have outlined in various interviews you are just arguing with blinders to try and demand people deem your take is accurate. Haven’t seen someone make such an ass of themselves on the board in a while so appreciate the entertainment at least.

I love how I get told to settle down for saying I have contempt for the idea that board insiders have some objective knowledge which has translated to real life, yet people are just allowed to openly insult me. Wildhack said exactly what I’ve been saying, which is that we have been rendered structurally incapable of competing in the current NIL system. That’s just true. Can there be a new system? Definitely. Will there be? If Wildhack is underestimating, probably not. If he is accurate, there will be.

My guess is that if 25-30 teams can make this thing work they’ll proceed regardless of what the rest of us do. Under this current system we are unable to compete at the top level, and Wildhack doesn’t see a solution to that in the near future.

 

[Orangezoo]

I love how I get told to settle down for saying I have contempt for the idea that board insiders have some objective knowledge which has translated to real life, yet people are just allowed to openly insult me. Wildhack said exactly what I’ve been saying, which is that we have been rendered structurally incapable of competing in the current NIL system. That’s just true. Can there be a new system? Definitely. Will there be? If Wildhack is underestimating, probably not. If he is accurate, there will be.

My guess is that if 25-30 teams can make this thing work they’ll proceed regardless of what the rest of us do. Under this current system we are unable to compete at the top level, and Wildhack doesn’t see a solution to that in the near future.

Insult you? You have openly insulted and challenged people’s integrity in this thread and are being challenged in your posts and actions not personally.

Calling a spade a spade in terms of making oneself an ass of that self is not an insult. It’s an observation.

 

[Dcuse]

I love how I get told to settle down for saying I have contempt for the idea that board insiders have some objective knowledge which has translated to real life, yet people are just allowed to openly insult me. Wildhack said exactly what I’ve been saying, which is that we have been rendered structurally incapable of competing in the current NIL system. That’s just true. Can there be a new system? Definitely. Will there be? If Wildhack is underestimating, probably not. If he is accurate, there will be.

My guess is that if 25-30 teams can make this thing work they’ll proceed regardless of what the rest of us do. Under this current system we are unable to compete at the top level, and Wildhack doesn’t see a solution to that in the near future.

1. Video evidence of Wildhack quoting your quote of what he said if you please.
2. 25-30 teams making it work on their own. That one gets no response. It just gets laughed at.
3. Any insults your way were brought on by your “ reality.” Gotta love those people that tag their over the top comments as “ reality.”

 

[llandz]

I am in a real quandary. I don't know whether to ban you from this thread or let you stick around so everyone can see how ridiculous you sound.

Super weird hill to die on when people WHO ARE FRIENDS WITH THE COACHING STAFF are telling you what you refuse to believe...

We've been here before. Seems to be an issue lately. Having season tickets for years is not the same as someone who goes to practices because they do donate a lot and they get inside information. I wonder how much this poster contributes to help us or does anything else. An example of anything else would be for someone like me who is a huge supporter but can not be monetarily, but recently had a zoom call with an athletic director about how to donate specifically to women's basketball to help retain players, and then posted that correct information to help others who could donate, do so properly. Some of us do the actual work and not only the criticizing.

 

[Orangezoo]

We've been here before. Seems to be an issue lately. Having season tickets for years is not the same as someone who goes to practices because they do donate a lot and they get inside information. I wonder how much this poster contributes to help us or does anything else. An example of anything else would be for someone like me who is a huge supporter but can not be monetarily, but recently had a zoom call with an athletic director about how to donate specifically to women's basketball to help retain players, and then posted that correct information to help others who could donate, do so properly. Some of us do the actual work and not only the criticizing.

I think it’s a bit simpler than that. We live in a time with a sub culture where people create their own truth beyond all reason or evidence and refuse to see any other reality beyond the alternative version they are married to.

 

[Blanko97]

2 things I know for a fact as well - Red said no to a few guys Kline wanted to spend a lot on and they didn’t spend their entire NiL budget this season because “they didn’t want to overpay certain guys”

didn’t want to over pay some guys so they went and overpaid everyone but Kyle.

Hard to believe this guy could be so dense that he thought he shouldn’t have gone all out in a make or break year.

 

[CU44SE]

This guys the worst.

Not Kline, you get the point.

 

[Blanko97]

You are comparing our end of season NET last year to our current NET as we are positioned to lose at LEAST 4 of our final 6 games. By the time the season ends the NET ranking will be closer to 90. Which is exactly what I have said: Marginal improvement.

Not entirely wrong, 20+ point losses could hit us pretty hard

 

[Blanko97]

A good coach would have this team on the bubble or in the tourney
It’s junk offense Autry runs
Plus seems like everyone has the green light to take bad shots

I blame the defense. It’s atrocious compared to early season. It’s like they’re purposefully taught to be worse defenders

 

[rrlbees]

I love how I get told to settle down for saying I have contempt for the idea that board insiders have some objective knowledge which has translated to real life, yet people are just allowed to openly insult me. Wildhack said exactly what I’ve been saying, which is that we have been rendered structurally incapable of competing in the current NIL system. That’s just true. Can there be a new system? Definitely. Will there be? If Wildhack is underestimating, probably not. If he is accurate, there will be.

My guess is that if 25-30 teams can make this thing work they’ll proceed regardless of what the rest of us do. Under this current system we are unable to compete at the top level, and Wildhack doesn’t see a solution to that in the near future.

count on 2 hands means 10 or less. that's it for the survivors. everybody else, like SU, are dead and incapable of competing and surviving. that is what john is saying using your logic.

 

[Fly Rodder]

You are comparing our end of season NET last year to our current NET as we are positioned to lose at LEAST 4 of our final 6 games. By the time the season ends the NET ranking will be closer to 90. Which is exactly what I have said: Marginal improvement.

You’re making up and then treating it as gospel to support your opinion. I’ll bet one American dollar that SU finishes with a NET between 65 & 75. The metrics are like batting average, they stabilize over time. Big drops or increases are usually at the beginning of the season. If Syracuse likely loses to Duke by 20, it is because that’s the difference between the teams. That difference is already baked into the cake.

Anything can happen in one game but the ppp efficiency over the season is what is measured by the metrics.

 

[pearl31]

and there are examples all around the country THIS YEAR of teams with NIL $ equal to or less than SU performimg as legit top-25 teams. I'd wager every one of these high-performimg/lower-dollar teams have one thing in common: a very strong coaching staff that can both motivate/teach X's and 0's AND optimize the portal. The coaching staff here can do neither. But it's entirely possible.

 

[Bulldog04]

didn’t want to over pay some guys so they went and overpaid everyone but Kyle.

Hard to believe this guy could be so dense that he thought he shouldn’t have gone all out in a make or break year.

It was Reds call to say no. Alex brings options to Red. Red gets final call. Alex wanted to go all out

 

[Blanko97]

It was Reds call to say no. Alex brings options to Red. Red gets final call. Alex wanted to go all out

I meant red

 

[RedtheGOB]

I’m literally being told by the coaching staff at the beginning of the year about all the NIL so if we can’t believe them then who do you want to believe ? It’s literally coming direct from the sources involved. This isn’t new information once the team started losing

If it means anything I believe you on the 9 mil. What I’m hearing from the Athletic guy and looking across the entire league is that maybe we are being honest with our NIL but maybe all of the top tier and 2nd tier teams are not. They’re like oh we spent 10mil plus. That could be 30-50% more than us. That’s the difference between us getting 2 solid players and them getting 2 elite players.

I don’t care about the dollar amount really if it still lands us in the 3rd tier. I would like to at least get to 5th in the ACC spending wise and we’re closer to 7-9.

 

[Cusefan0307]

If it means anything I believe you on the 9 mil. What I’m hearing from the Athletic guy and looking across the entire league is that maybe we are being honest with our NIL but maybe all of the top tier and 2nd tier teams are not. They’re like oh we spent 10mil plus. That could be 30-50% more than us. That’s the difference between us getting 2 solid players and them getting 2 elite players.

I don’t care about the dollar amount really if it still lands us in the 3rd tier. I would like to at least get to 5th in the ACC spending wise and we’re closer to 7-9.

You’re really a Red apologist until this season. Historical posts are easy to research on this site.

 

[RedtheGOB]

You’re really a Red apologist until this season. Historical posts are easy to research on this site.

I’m absolutely not. I said give him his 3rd year and changed my tune after Hofstra and then obvi BC. He needs to go and the slate needs to be wiped clean. My post history will show that.

Regardless I’m purely speculating on where we rank in NIl for next year. And what that means for the new coach and staff and players coming in.

It’s par for the course with you and many others around here that when people are talking about the future they immediately bring up the past.

 

[RedtheGOB]

and there are examples all around the country THIS YEAR of teams with NIL $ equal to or less than SU performimg as legit top-25 teams. I'd wager every one of these high-performimg/lower-dollar teams have one thing in common: a very strong coaching staff that can both motivate/teach X's and 0's AND optimize the portal. The coaching staff here can do neither. But it's entirely possible.

Can you name a few please?

Not trying to be snarky just want to know which ones you’re loookkng at.

Agree on the coaches comment.

 

[RedtheGOB]

“Wildhack just went on the radio and told everyone that the NIL isn’t sustainable for Syracuse, and that’s part of what drove him to retire.”
That would be a bombshell statement. Do you have a link? What radio show?

JW did not say this. It was on Cuse sports talk radio Wednesday.

He said it was 7 day / 365 day a year job and he spent time with his family over the holidays deciding.

He did say the current state of nil isn’t sustainable overall not just for Cuse.

Another guy from the athletic or from the ACC getting them mixed up now gave a much darker view that there were just teams like LSU willing to lose 10’s of millions year after year and then just do it again.

People may not think much of Paulie and Stevie for some biases but they had some really solid guests on this week and asked all the right questions in my opinion, not softballs.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

“The campaign staff said the candidate was in position to win the election”

“The executive team said the company was in position to massively boost productivity”

“The chancellor has new resources that will improve Syracuse’s academic rankings”

Of course the coaches wanted you to believe the team would be very good this year and that the roster was something beyond what we’ve had. What are they supposed to say? It’s more of the same?

They are friends. Their not feeding Bulldog propaganda to put on a message board read by an insignificant number of fans. IDK what, if anything, you have contributed, but Bulldog is in a select handful here whose word is gospel.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

didn’t want to over pay some guys so they went and overpaid everyone but Kyle.

Hard to believe this guy could be so dense that he thought he shouldn’t have gone all out in a make or break year.

I think it’s fair that they overpaid based on output, but on the front end, most of the transfers were expected to perform better. 10% improvement by the Nates and it’s a completely different season

 

[Millhouse]

I am in a real quandary. I don't know whether to ban you from this thread or let you stick around so everyone can see how ridiculous you sound.

Super weird hill to die on when people WHO ARE FRIENDS WITH THE COACHING STAFF are telling you what you refuse to believe...

it's not a quandary, you need to relax