Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[OttoMets]

Not clear to me how this fixes the issue related to the running trail. It still looks like it is within the grounds of the amphitheater.

This option was, I think, sited to avoid disturbing the existing trail; the stage building sits well west of the trail and doesn't create any physical conflicts.

Now that doesn't mean that the county wouldn't have acquiesced shut it down at SMG's insistence, of course.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I don't think the trail is a problem. It's kind of nice to ride your bike or run through there on days it hosts no shows. I go through there regularly.

The only problem I see with the amphitheater is it having one entrance and exit. That can easily be fixed. All die hard concert goers I know love the place.

 

[Cusefan0307]

The paper said they could put up to 9000 in there for a concert. If so, I hope they built enough rest rooms.

Not sure why the seating only goes half way up the wall. Seems like there's a lot of empty space/air in there.

 

[GoCuse08]

I like the amphitheater...my only complaint is I wish it was in the inner harbor within walking distance to hotels and bars. Would also be much easier for me to get to...and lets be real, its all about whats convenient for me.

Now if they set up some sort of boat taxi from the Village of Liverpool it would solve most of my gripes.

 

[TexanMark]

Not sure why the seating only goes half way up the wall. Seems like there's a lot of empty space/air in there.

Probably due to floor space...they want more exhibition space.

 

[#FRANchise]

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One narrow pathway from the parking lot to the Amp. It's not wide enough, and it needs better lighting. I've been to two DMB shows, and I've seen people almost get trampled on their way out.

The DMB show this summer was my first time at the Amp... it was a s**tshow. Has made me think twice about going to more shows there.

I understand there were some construction safety concerns with the foot bridge, but man the lack of planning for a show that size was unbelievable.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

The DMB show this summer was my first time at the Amp... it was a s**tshow. Has made me think twice about going to more shows there.

I understand there were some construction safety concerns with the foot bridge, but man the lack of planning for a show that size was unbelievable.

That was a one time parking issue due to the lot being paved.

 

[Consigliere]

I have been twice - Counting Crows / Rob Thomas last year and Zac Brown this year. For lawn seating the only place better is Bethel Woods. Blows away SPAC and Montage Mountain. Saw some evident improvements year over year and I'm pretty comfortable that the venue will continue to evolve. Pavilion seating is rather bare bones and the video screens should be about twice the size they are now to comfortably serve large crowds but other than that and the path leading to the venue - all addressable - it's a great place to see a concert.

 

[FrancoPizza]

The paper said they could put up to 9000 in there for a concert. If so, I hope they built enough rest rooms.

The restroom accessibility was supposedly one of the big things they considered in the design but the ones I visited yesterday were pretty small, even if there are multiple access points throughout.

 

[shandeezy7]

OttoMets any info on this new student housing development on Walnut? I'm guessing more houses being torn down to make way for this?

611 Walnut Ave Rentals - Syracuse, NY | Trulia

 

[cuse10]

The luxury apartments at 505 Walnut are AWESOME. I went to SU a decade too early.

 

[OttoMets]

OttoMets any info on this new student housing development on Walnut? I'm guessing more houses being torn down to make way for this?

611 Walnut Ave Rentals - Syracuse, NY | Trulia

Just a gut job on an older house, I think. There's a bit of a lull in major new construction after this last flood of new units, though there's another large one in the immediate area in the pipeline for 2020 or 2021. Investors are waiting to see how quickly the new units will be absorbed.

Local slumlord OPR is continuing combining two lots for construction of large walkup buildings on these blocks right now. They probably have finishes like what's pictured in 611 Walnut and similar rents.

 

[shandeezy7]

Just a gut job on an older house, I think. There's a bit of a lull in major new construction after this last flood of new units, though there's another large one in the immediate area in the pipeline for 2020 or 2021. Investors are waiting to see how quickly the new units will be absorbed.

Local slumlord OPR is continuing combining two lots for construction of large walkup buildings on these blocks right now. They probably have finishes like what's pictured in 611 Walnut and similar rents.

Good to know. Although if that is a gut job on the house that's currently there, then it looks like they will be completely altering the exterior as well.

 

[OttoMets]

Good to know. Although if that is a gut job on the house that's currently there, then it looks like they will be completely altering the exterior as well.

Interesting; I could be wrong about that - will check.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Looks like the Craftsman Inn is about ready to reopen with the paving is done. I'm curious if they've set a date yet. They might get a few months of decent weather for that brand new patio before winter sets in.

 

[shandeezy7]

Just saw this survey posted on Facebook regarding the planned public food hall building across from the Hotel Syracuse that the Allyn Foundation is partnering on. If anyone is interested, feel free to fill it out to have your voice heard:

www.surveymonkey.com/r/syrpublicmarket

A problem corner will get new life across from the Hotel Syracuse

 

[dooey139]

Just saw this survey posted on Facebook regarding the planned public food hall building across from the Hotel Syracuse that the Allyn Foundation is partnering on. If anyone is interested, feel free to fill it out to have your voice heard:

www.surveymonkey.com/r/syrpublicmarket

A problem corner will get new life across from the Hotel Syracuse

This is interesting, looks like they are putting out feelers for a grocery in the building. I lived downtown for 5 years and personally don't think a grocery store is needed, but if their research finds one is needed and can be supported, great!

 

[shandeezy7]

This is interesting, looks like they are putting out feelers for a grocery in the building. I lived downtown for 5 years and personally don't think a grocery store is needed, but if their research finds one is needed and can be supported, great!

Yeah, people claim to want a grocery store downtown, but when push comes to shove and the selection and affordability can't match the big chains, they don't shop there regularly. I also wonder what percentage of people who live downtown actually work outside of downtown, thereby making it more likely that they will just stop at a Wegmans or the like after work instead of shopping downtown.

Beyond the grocery store, it sounds like they are also exploring a concept similar to the EXPO Market in downtown Buffalo, which operates like a more upscale food court, with several different fast-casual restaurants sharing a common space.

http://www.expobuffalo.com/

 

[TexanMark]

This is interesting, looks like they are putting out feelers for a grocery in the building. I lived downtown for 5 years and personally don't think a grocery store is needed, but if their research finds one is needed and can be supported, great!

Trader Joe's or similar would be perfect

 

[Trueblue25]

I live on tipp and still look for any excuse to hit the Dewitt Wegmans

 

[Jake]

This is interesting, looks like they are putting out feelers for a grocery in the building. I lived downtown for 5 years and personally don't think a grocery store is needed, but if their research finds one is needed and can be supported, great!

Lack of a grocery store is the #1 complaint of downtown dwellers by a very very large margin.

 

[upperdeck]

everyone wants a store for those times they need something last minute but so many never use it regularly.
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[CuseOnly]

This option was, I think, sited to avoid disturbing the existing trail; the stage building sits well west of the trail and doesn't create any physical conflicts.

Now that doesn't mean that the county wouldn't have acquiesced shut it down at SMG's insistence, of course.

I was at Skynrd last week and the farthest thing on my mind was how many walkers and bikers that couldn't use the trail.

There are 1000 other locations to walk, run or ride a bike. Go the the other side of the lake and run up and down the parkway.

The county was concerned about revenue and bringing it in. The trail is nice but doesn't bring in any revenue, doesn't really create headlines for the politicians like the Amp does.

Been there several times for several shows and it's pretty freaking awesome.

 

[OttoMets]

I was at Skynrd last week and the farthest thing on my mind was how many walkers and bikers that couldn't use the trail.

There are 1000 other locations to walk, run or ride a bike. Go the the other side of the lake and run up and down the parkway.

The county was concerned about revenue and bringing it in. The trail is nice but doesn't bring in any revenue, doesn't really create headlines for the politicians like the Amp does.

Been there several times for several shows and it's pretty freaking awesome.

You don't care about the public good because...revenue. Got it.

 

[dooey139]

Yeah, people claim to want a grocery store downtown, but when push comes to shove and the selection and affordability can't match the big chains, they don't shop there regularly. I also wonder what percentage of people who live downtown actually work outside of downtown, thereby making it more likely that they will just stop at a Wegmans or the like after work instead of shopping downtown.

Beyond the grocery store, it sounds like they are also exploring a concept similar to the EXPO Market in downtown Buffalo, which operates like a more upscale food court, with several different fast-casual restaurants sharing a common space.

http://www.expobuffalo.com/

This is what I am thinking, I'm sure people want it so they can have the option, but how many people are going to want to walk across downtown with bags of groceries in their hands? It would be used for quick trips for one or two things, which I'm not sure would support a full fledged grocery store.

Also that Expo Market looks awesome, hopefully they do follow that concept.